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Old 13 October 2011, 08:08 AM   #61
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Agreed Grady, we all make mistakes, it's about what you do after and "moving on" as you put it that is important. I can not fault another human being for making a mistake, even having an affair. I certainly have made my mistakes, I have never broken a vow of fidelity, but that doesn't make me any better or worse then someone that did. If I read the OP opening post correctly, this is not a case of someone making a mistake, having an affair and trying to move on. If I understand it correctly, he is referring to men that do this on a consistant basis, then brag about their exploits while at the same time saying their familes mean everything to them. Unless there is some kind of open marriage-agreement between the husband and wife, (I suppose it's possible) I don't see how someone can say their family is all-important, yet continuiously endanger it's welfare by having affairs. What if their "exploits" were to ever be revealed? Think of the pain the wife, children, everyone would endure. If I am correct, and that is the situation the OP is describing, I'm sorry, but I have no respect for people like that.
Thats spot on VTC Guy. I hear this guy talk about when he meets another girl at the bar and says he's married and stuff and he will freak out if the girl ever says a bad thing about his wife.He talks about how much he loves his wife and explains how its more natural for men to want to have sex all the time since in a mans mind it means nothing most of the time.Just fun and lots of pleasure.What I really cant understand is when I told him that I don't want to have kids and he replies how much he loves his and would kill anybody no matter who it was this second for his kids without even thinking about it. And that's great to have that much support for your kids but not when the person who is most likely going to hurt them is yourself and you have no idea thats the case.
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Old 13 October 2011, 11:20 AM   #62
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If I understand it correctly, he is referring to men that do this on a consistant basis, then brag about their exploits while at the same time saying their familes mean everything to them.
Yes, but, rightly or wrongly, I distilled the issue even further and suggested that on the whole, it is our own vows and oaths of loyalty that we should be concerned about and less about those of others.

But, let the discussion continue, that was simply my take on the issue.
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Old 13 October 2011, 11:41 AM   #63
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Old 13 October 2011, 02:11 PM   #64
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Yes, but, rightly or wrongly, I distilled the issue even further and suggested that on the whole, it is our own vows and oaths of loyalty that we should be concerned about and less about those of others.

But, let the discussion continue, that was simply my take on the issue.

Ahhh, now I understand. And, you have a good point.
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Old 13 October 2011, 03:19 PM   #65
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... it is our own vows and oaths of loyalty that we should be concerned about and less about those of others.
Nail on head.
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Old 14 October 2011, 09:37 AM   #68
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I have known some men who cheated and their children knew but somehow never affected their long term relationship. I guess it all depends on the foundation built between father and children. Not to say this is justification as I can only imagine this is rare. Somehow even when children get hurt at one point, time allows healing and forgiveness as a result of continued solid relationship between cheating parent and children. My 2c.
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