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20 February 2012, 01:23 AM | #1 |
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I am not sure, if I am getting hanged for this, but I am alway worried about people registering, putting 20 or so posts and start immediately selling their stuff here.
If someone is asking me, a seller should have a t least 500 posts and must be at least a member here for2 years to have the permission to sell. |
20 February 2012, 02:39 PM | #2 |
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20 February 2012, 02:40 PM | #3 | |
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You mean this?? Not sure if its correct though..Waiting for OP to confirm.. I have asked but no answer received as yet. |
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20 February 2012, 02:04 AM | #4 |
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Twelve hours since the Seller searched this thread. More than enough time to post a reply if he was at all in the right. Time to post his name - it is only fair to the rest of us who do deals on TRF.
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20 February 2012, 02:15 AM | #5 | |
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But at the end of the day fraud is hard to say with what appears now to be NOS. The long silence from seller is puzzling when he's been able to share his side for a while now.
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20 February 2012, 02:48 AM | #6 |
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Seller should make right based on inaccurate description of the watch. To be honest, I would not have bought this piece based on the incongruencies between the pictures and description.
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20 February 2012, 03:54 AM | #8 |
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The watch was described as never worn, sized, and with protective plastics in place. That's clearly not what the buyer received. Am I naive to assume that such a watch should not have scratches, dings, etc? The warranty sounds sketchy as well.
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20 February 2012, 04:21 AM | #9 |
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No one has asked for my opinion but here it is anyway.
Both watches are great. The deal was fair at $400. The offer was fair at $200. The counter offer unreasonable at $800. Resolve it quickly and politely since there is no need for this to turn south. Also, one must leave the seller $$$$$$ in pocket for his Pledge 2012 donation. He is a prolific seller.
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I still think a code of ethics could help avoid misunderstandings.
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20 February 2012, 05:45 AM | #11 | |
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20 February 2012, 05:27 AM | #12 |
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After reading every post I think refunding Ryan his cash $400 is fair enough and put this in the history books and live goes on.
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20 February 2012, 05:51 AM | #13 |
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I tend to agree with this.
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20 February 2012, 06:28 AM | #15 |
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Just sent this to the seller:
------------------------------------------------- XXXXXXX, The forum suggests a refund of my $400. I can live with this. SURELY this will be acceptable to you as this is still NO MONEY OUT OF YOUR POCKET even after misrepresenting an item. Please get back to me quickly if you are willing to make this agreement and bring this all to an end. Thanks |
20 February 2012, 01:59 PM | #16 |
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Everyone,
I'd like to report that the seller has agreed to return my $400. Although I'd have much preferred to just reverse the deal, this is probably the best I can do and it has been suggested by the forum so I will accept their decision. I am happy that he has done this. I'd like to thank everyone for taking the time to weigh in. If it were not for the pressure exerted by this thread, there is no way I would have gotten closure on this. This matter is now resolved between the seller and I (at least after it clears PayPal), but since I've involved all of you, I realize that you all now have a stake in this as well. I realize that I have taken everyone's time to arbitrate this. I'm sure that after examining all the evidence that there is still a desire to see the seller. I don't want to bail on this thread just because I got some compensation. That would be selfish of me and I want this thread to help keep our boards clean. To the Mods: If you feel it is still necessary to post the seller info, please PM me. I will provide and you can disseminate in a manner of your choosing. I'd prefer to not disclose since he finally did man up, but it is up to the community and not me. I feel this is only fair as you guys now have a stake in this too. Anyway, here is how it went down today for the public record. Out of total fairness I wanted to provide the seller's perspective as well and our email thread is all I have as he prefers not to weigh in here (I informed him that I would share our email exchanges today as can be seen in the correspondence below). Thanks again everyone and mods let me know how to proceed. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Appreciate if you can leave out my name/ID. I don't think that is necessary at this point. Sent from my iPad --------------------------------------------------------- I will do that xxxxx. I will actually post our last few emails to confirm it. Once again I confirm that we are settled. --------------------------------------------------------- Ok. Plz post and say the issue is settled. Sent from my iPad --------------------------------------------------------- xxxxx, You still don't get it. I did not ruin your reputation. You did. This forum is 95% in my favor. If you had a leg to stand on, you would have contributed to the forum. I am happy that you finally decided to try to make this right once the forum pressure became high. And I will post that. This will settle the argument in my view and you will never hear from me again. However, the thread is property of TRF, and they can do with it what they want. Once again, this is why I did not want to take this public. Thank you, Ryan --------------------------------------------------------- Stop thanking me. You ruined my reputation on the forum. Even by not disclosing my id, everyone knows who I was, which is why I didnt even wanna respond and make this a public argument. As you saw from the moderator's post, original deal we had was fair even if the watch was NOS. My offer Of $200 refund was also fair. Now I gave you $400 and you are still not happy. I need to know if this refund settles the issue. If I don't get confirmation here and on the forum by tonight I am canceling the refund. It Is paypal's policy to hold refund until Thursday. I can't do anything about that. Sent from my iPad ---------------------------------------------------------- I still do not have the money in my account, it is still pending. To answer your question of "are we good," here is my response: You asked me to clear your name. My job is not to clear your name. The facts will or will not clear your name. All I've done is accurately post the facts, and the board will form their opinions. I never wanted this to go public in the first place. Your comment that you did not knowingly mislead me is fine. I disagree with it, but I will grant that you didn't knowingly do it.....all you had to do to was make it right once I pointed out your mistake. None of this would have gone public. Mistakes happen. If you made it right we would not have come to this. I will certainly post these emails and report that you have now paid me the $400 that was suggested. I'm sure some of the members will be glad you did and that will make their perception more favorable of you and of this transaction. I'm also sure that there will be some that feel it shouldn't have come to a public squabble to make you reconcile. I can't control their perceptions. Thanks again, Ryan ---------------------------------------------------------- Are we good or should I cancel the refund? Sent from my iPad --------------------------------------------------------- Gave you the $400. Sent from my iPad ---------------------------------------------------------- I'll refund the $400 but I didn't misrepresent anything. Based on the info I had the watch is new in my mind. I've refunded you $200 first and will give you the other two after you clear my name. ---------------------------------------------------------- xxxxx, The forum suggests a refund of my $400. I can live with this. SURELY this will be acceptable to you as this is still NO MONEY OUT OF YOUR POCKET even after misrepresenting an item. Please get back to me quickly if you are willing to make this agreement and bring this all to an end. Thanks, Ryan ---------------------------------------------------------- Whether you believe it or not is up to you but I honestly didn't know the watch was old stock but I doubt it is 5 years old. Even if you buy a new watch from the AD it doesn't mean it is produced that day. Even if the AD sell you one that has been in inventory for 2 years it is still labeled new. In fact for the higher end watches, it isn't uncommon for them to sit on the shelf for a few years before being sold as new. Anyways, I understand where you are coming from. I can't return the watch to you anymore but I can refund you $200 to smooth things over. That is my final offer to you to put this behind us. If that is not acceptable then you should do what you gotta do. |
20 February 2012, 02:07 PM | #17 |
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Sorry, I have to say this.
Unless you name the seller this is all just useless drama, I want to avoid him. Not naming him puts us all at risk of having to deal with this person I will not deal with this person and the fact that he never spoke up speaks volumes to me. Edit: also if he claims he did nothing wrong why is he refunding you 400 dollars? (rhetorical question) He knows what he did was wrong. |
20 February 2012, 02:20 PM | #18 | |
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20 February 2012, 02:35 PM | #19 |
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A MOD will either lock this pup or someones gonna be outed and its a matter of time's all ...
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20 February 2012, 02:44 PM | #20 |
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Okay, well, he's outed now, so Im goin to JJ's Bar for a beer !
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20 February 2012, 02:46 PM | #21 |
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Well, I wont save ya a seat at the Bar if you dont leave this thread now
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20 February 2012, 02:56 PM | #23 |
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20 February 2012, 03:01 PM | #25 |
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okay...
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20 February 2012, 02:50 PM | #26 |
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Comon Paracord, you can say it, sounds like: "Watch + ya + lookin + at" !
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20 February 2012, 02:53 PM | #27 |
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While I haven't been asked for an opinion either, and after reading all that has been placed here so far, the seller was shady at best, and a scoundrel at worst, regardless of the dollar amount. A little integrity goes a long way - it's a virtue that can't be taught.
It's sad to read about another deal gone "south" here on the forum. I'd post the info you have on the seller here, and in the "Who's who" section.
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20 February 2012, 04:20 PM | #28 |
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Seller is definitely sketchy. OP didn't ruin his reputation. His actions on this transaction did enough to ruin his own reputation. IBTL.
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20 February 2012, 04:35 PM | #29 |
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The seller is obviously the same linked above.
I will avoid the seller for sure. Regards. |
20 February 2012, 07:24 PM | #30 |
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The matter is resolved we need to close this thread. No need for name shame party.
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