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Old 9 March 2012, 05:02 AM   #61
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But it WORKS, WORKS, WORKS!

I'll wait 40+ years to weigh in on my opinion on the "quality" of the new clasp. Just because something feels/seems of high quality surely doesn't mean that it IS of high quality.

I'm perfectly content without my date, with my cheap clasp, and my lugholes.

Bah humbug!
Another Bah humbug here also
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Old 9 March 2012, 05:13 AM   #62
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Old clasp is very reliable and could care less if it looks good or not. I never look at the clasp unless its a real dressy watch with an expensive clasp. My sub is for everyday durability.
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Old 9 March 2012, 05:42 AM   #63
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Before the 'tuna clasps' there existed the age of the dinosaurs



never had a problem with this old thing or my 'tuna clasps' but the new bracelets look good
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Old 9 March 2012, 05:30 PM   #64
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I'm not saying they weren't functional. I did hundreds of dives wearing my Sub & Sea-Dweller (I did have the SD extension link bend irrepairably once though). I just think they look cheap on a £4000+ watch.
They're just not as comfortable. The EZ link is great. The non-simple-metal-press aspect is great. It's a significant upgrade, plain and simple, and wearing it proves it true. I have, and love, a watch with the tuna version. But the clasp is just not as good*.

*Noted, though: due to a welded feature on the new clasps, they seem to have a higher percentage of breakage issues -- still small, but it's been documented.
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Old 9 March 2012, 09:42 PM   #65
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Just an observation... it seems to me that members that owns models with older tuna can clasps stand by their watch. There's nothing wrong with that... everyone is entitled to their opinion but just saying.................................
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Old 10 March 2012, 01:40 AM   #66
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They're just not as comfortable. The EZ link is great. The non-simple-metal-press aspect is great. It's a significant upgrade, plain and simple, and wearing it proves it true. I have, and love, a watch with the tuna version. But the clasp is just not as good*.

*Noted, though: due to a welded feature on the new clasps, they seem to have a higher percentage of breakage issues -- still small, but it's been documented.
i really think the EZ Link is a great function.
the tuna clasp is not as polished and solid feeling and pretty without a doubt... but it is functional without fault. the only caveat is that i am talking about the last incarnation of the tuna clasp that came on the 93250 bracelet
(the 93150 had a weak spot for me, it was the back end of the clasp tended to snag and pop open the dive link on occasion)

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Just an observation... it seems to me that members that owns models with older tuna can clasps stand by their watch. There's nothing wrong with that... everyone is entitled to their opinion but just saying.................................
had the newer style on my daytona, really didn't care for it (EZ link was great), it felt fragile in some ways... not like a piece of glass, just not as durable.

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Old 10 March 2012, 01:50 AM   #67
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I'll proudly wear my tuna can till they spread my ashes over the Atlantic then one of my kids will continue on with it.

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Old 10 March 2012, 02:05 AM   #68
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I'll proudly wear my tuna can till they spread my ashes over the Atlantic then one of my kids will continue on with it.

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Old 10 March 2012, 03:11 AM   #69
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I'm not saying they weren't functional. I did hundreds of dives wearing my Sub & Sea-Dweller (I did have the SD extension link bend irrepairably once though). I just think they look cheap on a £4000+ watch.
Yeap they sure do look cheap for a £4000+ watch, but would I wanna put on a Tag Heuer? No.
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Old 10 March 2012, 03:12 AM   #70
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I'll proudly wear my tuna can till they spread my ashes over the Atlantic then one of my kids will continue on with it.

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Old 10 March 2012, 03:16 AM   #71
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To me "tuna" is a Seiko dive watch......I always lovingly refer to the old school clasps as "tinfoil clasps"................regardless, I still prefer the charm of the older watches, my watches have grown old w/ me......and at my advanced age.....I'll stick with and go to my grave with my lug holes, tinfoil clasps, rattly folded link oyster bracelets.....can I get a "bah humbug" brother curmudgeons!
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Old 10 March 2012, 04:28 AM   #72
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It looks like the last of the "tuna can" stamped metal clasps have gone as both the YM & Sub are updated.
Personally I thouhgt they looked pretty cheap and dated, so I'll say "good riddance"
Yeah, they looked and fely very cheap IMHO, now I know people on here say they're a tried and proven design, but so are Honda's, and that doesn't stop people from wanting BMW's....
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Old 10 March 2012, 04:41 AM   #73
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Yes, good riddance. They should have been updated a long time ago...

Those clasps have no place on a 500 USD watch let alone on a 5000+ USD one...though I still like my 14060M.
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Old 10 March 2012, 06:16 AM   #74
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Yeah, they looked and fely very cheap IMHO, now I know people on here say they're a tried and proven design, but so are Honda's, and that doesn't stop people from wanting BMW's....
Good point.
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Old 10 March 2012, 06:53 AM   #75
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Yeah, they looked and fely very cheap IMHO, now I know people on here say they're a tried and proven design, but so are Honda's, and that doesn't stop people from wanting BMW's....
That's the worst analogy EVER!
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Old 10 March 2012, 06:54 AM   #76
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On my SD I like the subC clasp. It perfectly balances the watch, However If I was doing real work with it or going into the jungle or using it as a real tool watch, No Doubt about it I would want the old stamped clasp. My office adventures and comfort of daily wear, the new clasp is fine, for real Rolex work- NO.

On vintages, no way, no how stamped only. Keep your stinking drive by wire, paddle shifters and electronic nannies, connoisseurs are at play here. You nouveau smug wis enjoy your soulless wonders ;)
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Old 10 March 2012, 07:43 AM   #77
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On vintages, no way, no how stamped only. Keep your stinking drive by wire, paddle shifters and electronic nannies, connoisseurs are at play here. You nouveau smug wis enjoy your soulless wonders ;)
At long last, the voice of reason.

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Old 12 March 2012, 02:10 AM   #78
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Definitely.

I don't want to offend anyone who owns them here, but they are incomparable to the new ones...
Really, Are they worth 1000 dollars?
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Old 12 March 2012, 02:32 AM   #79
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Although I do vastly prefer the newer bracelets/glidelocks, a near perfect analogy is found in a product made by Sig Sauer, the P226. The original item used a stamped design, then later they went with a seemingly superior milled design, the trouble is, many believe the older stamped sheet metal design was the superior one, and minty examples command a premium over the newer milled variety.
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Old 12 March 2012, 02:42 AM   #80
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To me "tuna" is a Seiko dive watch......I always lovingly refer to the old school clasps as "tinfoil clasps"................regardless, I still prefer the charm of the older watches, my watches have grown old w/ me......and at my advanced age.....I'll stick with and go to my grave with my lug holes, tinfoil clasps, rattly folded link oyster bracelets.....can I get a "bah humbug" brother curmudgeons!
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Old 12 March 2012, 03:57 AM   #81
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My cheapo Sea Dweller 16600 falls off my wrist all the time.

Not a fan of $1000 bracelets and $800 bezels, especially when it's the same old 3135 movement. What are we paying for with these new models? I call Shenanigans.
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Old 12 March 2012, 06:19 AM   #82
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Old 12 March 2012, 06:41 AM   #83
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can someone post a pic of what the new YM clasp may look like-

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Old 12 March 2012, 08:32 AM   #84
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Yes yes they may have been a bit dated but you know what they just worked and for years this was the case. We cannot say the same for the newer clasps and I would suspect there will be more issues with the adjustments/welds and the like over time as we have already begun to see.

That being said I like the new clasps as well but will never hesitate buying something like a Rolex with a "tuna clasp" that just well works... In fact I just did



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Old 12 March 2012, 08:41 PM   #85
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Charley Tuna Says.......

I love my old-style clasp!!
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Old 12 March 2012, 09:06 PM   #86
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I love mine. Great design, light and reliable. For me Rolex is not going in the right direction anyway.
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Old 13 March 2012, 12:17 AM   #87
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you can just put Sub C Glidelock clasps on your old style bracelets then you'll have a killer combo!!

i've done it on all of mine and it's great
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Old 13 March 2012, 12:20 AM   #88
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I like tuna.

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Old 13 March 2012, 03:43 AM   #89
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you can just put Sub C Glidelock clasps on your old style bracelets then you'll have a killer combo!!
Please forgive my ignorance, but where does one acquire these new clasps?
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Old 13 March 2012, 03:56 AM   #90
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I think they were the right clasps up until the late 80s or so, but they are very outdated now. I think the new clasps continue the tradition of Rolex durability, but they convey a greater sense of confidence, and feel like how a Rolex should (i.e. overengineered). Functionally, they did a good job, but there were weak spots and they weren't infallible. To be honest, I don't think I would own a Rolex with the old style clasp unless it was a vintage piece - the new clasps are just too good to want to back to it. I know there are those who love the old style clasps, and I respect that - they're just not for me
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