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Grumpy Badger · 9 March 2013, 04:55 AM

Well, I've been running around madly for the last few days looking at cars ranging from the sublime to the ridiculous!

It one I want is a Defender 90 but, as is always the way, it's priced at more than I wanted to spend. I've made the guy an offer so now I just have to sit back and and see what happens...

daveathall · 9 March 2013, 05:28 AM

Coming up to the end of the year, car salesmen need to get cars sold by the end of March to get their bonus, have you thought about going to a dealer and twisting arms Mark?

Grumpy Badger · 9 March 2013, 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by daveathall

Coming up to the end of the year, car salesmen need to get cars sold by the end of March to get their bonus, have you thought about going to a dealer and twisting arms Mark?

Land Rover approved used cars are just out of budget unless they are beyond poverty-spec!
The guy I've made the bid to is a one man band but he told me himself he had far too many and needed to get them shifting...
He had a few that were in budget but he made the mistake of showing me a beauty that was more money. If I hadn't seen it I would probably have bought one of the others but, after it, the others fell into the "ugly mate" category!

As an aside, how's that Canada Goose going? I see you've got snow forecast tonight.

spuds · 9 March 2013, 05:44 AM

Discovery 3.

'nuff said.

daveathall · 9 March 2013, 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Grumpy Badger

Land Rover approved used cars are just out of budget unless they are beyond poverty-spec!
The guy I've made the bid to is a one man band but he told me himself he had far to many and needed to get them shifting...
He had a few that were in budget but he made the mistake of showing me a beauty that was more money. If I hadn't seen it I would probably have bought one of the others but, after it, the others fell into the "ugly mate" category!

As an aside, how's that Canada Goose going? I see you've got snow forecast tonight.

Looking forward to snow Mark, mind, I'm working this W/E and driving down to PWOG at 0530 in the morning, that should be riveting.

Grumpy Badger · 9 March 2013, 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by spuds

Discovery 3.

'nuff said.

Ming the Merciless has spoken!

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Originally Posted by daveathall

Looking forward to snow Mark, mind, I'm working this W/E and driving down to PWOG at 0530 in the morning, that should be riveting.

Sounds lovely... Wrap up warm!

What you need is a land rover!

Say hi to WO2 Matravers for me, if for nothing other than to see the confused look as he tries to work out who the hell I am!

East Bay Rider · 9 March 2013, 05:52 AM

Defender 90 would be excellent (awesome toy) but isn't the wheelbase a bit short for towing? Can't imagine it bring very stabil with a load. Maybe a 110 would be a better idea.

Grumpy Badger · 9 March 2013, 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by daveathall

driving down to PWOG at 0530 in the morning

...as opposed to 0530 in the afternoon?!

Sorry, I just had to!

(I'm very brave so long as we're not both in uniform, Sir!

)

daveathall · 9 March 2013, 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Grumpy Badger

...as opposed to 0530 in the afternoon?!

Sorry, I just had to!

(I'm very brave so long as we're not both in uniform, Sir!

)

In my defence, I was typing for a wider audience.

Grumpy Badger · 9 March 2013, 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by East Bay Rider

Defender 90 would be excellent (awesome toy) but isn't the wheelbase a bit short for towing? Can't imagine it bring very stabil with a load. Maybe a 110 would be a better idea.

Fair point but my heart is ruling my head a bit.

I tried a 130 yesterday... What a beast! Alas, I'd have had to spend as much to make it nice as it would cost to buy. (plus the Long-Haired General said she wouldn't drive it in a month of Sunday's so I'd have to crawl home from the pub!

)

bayerische · 9 March 2013, 06:07 AM

Good luck on the land rover deal Mark!

So a Defender 90? Any links?

iLLGT2 · 9 March 2013, 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by GermanyMatt

Actually it's all true. They are slow, they do get horrible gas mileage (unless you get a diesel), and they are ugly - and basically a souped up VW Toureg.

Lot better options out there for same or less money. Resale on the Cayenne is very bad.

Seriously, just stop talking. You sound ridiculous, especially with no first hand experience.

Looks are subjective, but everything else isn't.

They benchmarked the performance SUV world, handles like a sports car (yea that's terrible engineering let me tell ya) slow? Yea the GTS turbo and turbo s are freaking slow .. Right , even the cayenne s is pretty quick, terrible on gas? Again you don't really have a clue

Just stop

daveathall · 9 March 2013, 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Grumpy Badger

Say hi to WO2 Matravers for me, if for nothing other than to see the confused look as he tries to work out who the hell I am!

Aye, I get on well with Mat, he does have a confused look quite often though.

Aqua fobic · 9 March 2013, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by spuds

Discovery 3.

'nuff said.

I see your Discovery 3 and raise you a Discovery 4

Grumpy Badger · 9 March 2013, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Aqua fobic

I see your Discovery 3 and raise you a Discovery 4

I fold... Too rich for my blood!

bayerische · 9 March 2013, 07:13 AM

Well, as I said. I've changed my mind. The "Deffy" is your kind of car Mark.

Grumpy Badger · 9 March 2013, 07:21 AM

Grrrrr... My offer was declined. Back to the drawing board!

Grumpy Badger · 9 March 2013, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by bayerische

Well, as I said. I've changed my mind. The "Deffy" is your kind of car Mark.

What...

Slow, noisy, ugly, smelly and drinks like a fish...?

You may have a point!

bayerische · 9 March 2013, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Grumpy Badger

What...

Slow, noisy, ugly, smelly and drinks like a fish...?

You may have a point!

Sounds like a Finn....

Grumpy Badger · 9 March 2013, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by bayerische

Sounds like a Finn....

I've said it before... I think my family had a Viking milkman 9 months before I was born!

bayerische · 9 March 2013, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Grumpy Badger

I've said it before... I think my family had a Viking milkman 9 months before I was born!

Viking-milk.

What real men are made off.

Kingair · 9 March 2013, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by iLLGT2

Seriously, just stop talking. You sound ridiculous, especially with no first hand experience.

Looks are subjective, but everything else isn't.

They benchmarked the performance SUV world, handles like a sports car (yea that's terrible engineering let me tell ya) slow? Yea the GTS turbo and turbo s are freaking slow .. Right , even the cayenne s is pretty quick, terrible on gas? Again you don't really have a clue

Just stop

Getting itchy . . .

Love the Cayenne . . . especially the previous model . . . still need to get used to the new model . . .

GTS & Turbo are really great cars . . . but so slow . . . .

HAGWe

bayerische · 9 March 2013, 07:30 PM

Mark, make him an "offer he can't refuse". I just said that in my best Marlon Brando accent.

Kingair · 9 March 2013, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by bayerische

Mark, make him an "offer he can't refuse". I just said that in my best Marlon Brando accent.

Great Andreas . . .

HAGWe

bayerische · 9 March 2013, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Kingair

Great Andreas . . .

HAGWe

Thanks Marc.

Beek · 9 March 2013, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by GermanyMatt

Oh, just because I have criticisms of the Cayenne, don't take that as me being a supporter of Land Rover.

No one should take it as an insult that I don't like the Cayenne - it's just my opinion and nothing more.

Seems like the more appropriate vehicle for the OP would be a truck, if towing is going to be a primary use.

For the record, I have a 2012 BMW X5 diesel and a 2011 Audi S4. I own the X5 because I have a family and need a larger vehicle for road trips and so forth. It's not the prettiest thing to look at either, but it's pretty good on gas mileage, comfortable, yet still feels nimble at autobahn speeds. My other option was an Audi Q7 diesel, but in the end I liked the X5 more overall. I looked at the Benz ML class as well, but couldn't stand the interior. I never even drove it. Land Rover models never entered the picture.

Sorry if my post sounded a bit harsh. I didn't mean to, but sometimes I get carried away. Although I never owned one I've been quite a big Porsche fan myself, but can't see myself driving a Cayenne or Panamera if I'm honest. I think the X5 diesel makes a good choice for your requirements and in it's current form one of the finest if not the finest SUV for road use on the market today.

Grumpy Badger · 9 March 2013, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by bayerische

Mark, make him an "offer he can't refuse". I just said that in my best Marlon Brando accent.

Would that not require me to cut the head off one of my horses, though...?
I might be better just paying the asking price..

East Bay Rider · 10 March 2013, 12:21 AM

How long is the trailer? Single axle or dual? Trailer brakes? Pictures?

Grumpy Badger · 10 March 2013, 12:31 AM

14' body (plus hitch), tri-axle. No electric breaks but drums activated when it pushes on the back of the towing vehicle.

DoxaDavid · 10 March 2013, 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Grumpy Badger

14' body (plus hitch), tri-axle. No electric breaks but drums activated when it pushes on the back of the towing vehicle.

I've done a fair bit of towing over the years and I would be worried about the Defenders short wheelbase. Given the length and weight of your trailer, any decent side wind is going to "wag" that RR quite a bit.

I can't imagine if you looked a bit there isn't any decent used full sized American trucks available in the UK? We may not be great at building euro spec'd performance vehicles but no one builds work trucks like we do!

9 March 2013, 04:55 AM	#61
Grumpy Badger "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Real Name: Mark Location: Bonny Scotland Watch: 14060M Sub (cosc) Posts: 5,280	Well, I've been running around madly for the last few days looking at cars ranging from the sublime to the ridiculous! It one I want is a Defender 90 but, as is always the way, it's priced at more than I wanted to spend. I've made the guy an offer so now I just have to sit back and and see what happens... __________________ Don't mind me. I'm full of scotch, bitterness and impure thoughts! "You have enemies? Good! That means you stood up for something, sometime in your life." Sir Winston Leonard Spencer-Churchill KG, OM, CH, TD, PC, DL, FRS.

9 March 2013, 05:28 AM	#62
daveathall "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Dave Location: England. Watch: Various Posts: 7,305	Coming up to the end of the year, car salesmen need to get cars sold by the end of March to get their bonus, have you thought about going to a dealer and twisting arms Mark? __________________ KINDEST REGARDS DAVE

9 March 2013, 05:44 AM	#64
spuds "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Dan Location: Essex, UK Watch: West Ham! COYI!! Posts: 7,941	Discovery 3. 'nuff said. __________________ Onwards & Upwards Rodders...... Onwards & Upwards. Life is not about how fast you can run or how high you can climb........... It's about how well you can bounce!! TRF HALL OF FAME JANUARY 2010

9 March 2013, 05:52 AM	#67
East Bay Rider "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Bill Location: East Bay RI Watch: GMT-II 16710LN Posts: 12,074	Defender 90 would be excellent (awesome toy) but isn't the wheelbase a bit short for towing? Can't imagine it bring very stabil with a load. Maybe a 110 would be a better idea. __________________ I bought a cheap watch from the crazy man Floating down canal It doesn't use numbers or moving hands It always just says "now" Now you may be thinking that I was had But this watch is never wrong And if I have trouble the warranty said Breathe In, Breathe Out, Move On J. Buffett Instagram: eastbayrider46

9 March 2013, 06:07 AM	#71
bayerische "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Andreas Location: Margaritaville Watch: Smurf Posts: 19,879	Good luck on the land rover deal Mark! So a Defender 90? Any links? __________________ Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

9 March 2013, 07:13 AM	#76
bayerische "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Andreas Location: Margaritaville Watch: Smurf Posts: 19,879	Well, as I said. I've changed my mind. The "Deffy" is your kind of car Mark. __________________ Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

9 March 2013, 07:21 AM	#77
Grumpy Badger "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Real Name: Mark Location: Bonny Scotland Watch: 14060M Sub (cosc) Posts: 5,280	Grrrrr... My offer was declined. Back to the drawing board! __________________ Don't mind me. I'm full of scotch, bitterness and impure thoughts! "You have enemies? Good! That means you stood up for something, sometime in your life." Sir Winston Leonard Spencer-Churchill KG, OM, CH, TD, PC, DL, FRS.

9 March 2013, 07:30 PM	#83
bayerische "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Andreas Location: Margaritaville Watch: Smurf Posts: 19,879	Mark, make him an "offer he can't refuse". I just said that in my best Marlon Brando accent. __________________ Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

10 March 2013, 12:21 AM	#88
East Bay Rider "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Bill Location: East Bay RI Watch: GMT-II 16710LN Posts: 12,074	How long is the trailer? Single axle or dual? Trailer brakes? Pictures? __________________ I bought a cheap watch from the crazy man Floating down canal It doesn't use numbers or moving hands It always just says "now" Now you may be thinking that I was had But this watch is never wrong And if I have trouble the warranty said Breathe In, Breathe Out, Move On J. Buffett Instagram: eastbayrider46

10 March 2013, 12:31 AM	#89
Grumpy Badger "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Real Name: Mark Location: Bonny Scotland Watch: 14060M Sub (cosc) Posts: 5,280	14' body (plus hitch), tri-axle. No electric breaks but drums activated when it pushes on the back of the towing vehicle. __________________ Don't mind me. I'm full of scotch, bitterness and impure thoughts! "You have enemies? Good! That means you stood up for something, sometime in your life." Sir Winston Leonard Spencer-Churchill KG, OM, CH, TD, PC, DL, FRS.

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