List the things you DON'T like in a watch !!

[JJ Irani]

Okay, guys,

This thread is NOT meant to be offensive or hurt anyone's feelings. Just let us express the things we DON'T like about a watch...any watch in general. Please be frank and honest about it. Thanks!!

Okay, the things I DON'T like in a watch are...

1. Square watches.
2. Watches on straps, especially that blasted NATO!!
3. Acrylic crystals - must have sapphire only.
4. Dateless watches - date is a must.
5. Complicated watches - too cluttered, happy with just time & date!
6. Watches without screw-down crown.
7. Watches with lug holes, much prefer the smooth lug finish.
8. Quartz watches.
9. Watches with very thin bezels, i.e. too much dial and crystal.
10. Chronographs - stationary second hand drives me nuts!!

These are my 10 DON'Ts in a watch.

What's yours?

JJ

[C.J.]

ORANGE WATCHES! I figured I'd throw that in for Ed in his absence

1) Very large numbers i.e the Corum bubbles
2) Very thin or Very small (34mm or less)
3) Odd shaped cases i.e the Oakley's and this new generation stuff
4) TOO MUCH BLING (Jacob & Co.)

Other than this list I can usually find something I like in almost any watch

[padi56]

1.Over complicated dials.
2.Blink in any form.
3.All solid precious metal watches yellow or white metal.
4.Quartz watches. but OK in a divers tool watch.
But if it ticks like most brands.

[AJC]

Hey Guys,

A couple of things,I don't like any watch that is not of a divers style and I am not particularly keen on homage (read copy of) watches.

When I mean homage I mean so close it might as well be fake.A watch with some similarities is OK but the blatant copy jobs.

Aaron

[RobDad]

Hmm, let me think...

Any 'ladies' watch - they are stupidly small
watches without hour markers etc on the dial
Any fake watch is garbage!
Any mans watch with diamonds on it - that's not a watch, it's jewellery!
Chronographs - who really needs one?
white-faced watches with silver hands you just can't read at a glance
watches with cheap screw-down crowns that strip their threads

and loads more I can't think of right now!

I don't like chronographs.
I'm not a fan of a 'day' feature. (yes the BM has one, but for how long?)
I don't like watches smaller than 39mm.
I don't like yellow or rose gold on a watch, period.
I don't like gem stones on a man's watch.
I don't like complicated dials.
I don't like gold dial markers that are painted over.

Originally Posted by Atomic

I don't like chronographs.
I'm not a fan of a 'day' feature. (yes the BM has one, but for how long?)
I don't like watches smaller than 39mm.
I don't like yellow or rose gold on a watch, period.
I don't like gem stones on a man's watch.
I don't like complicated dials.
I don't like gold dial markers that are painted over.

Hmmmmm, interesting contrasts we have in some of these, John:

I agree, I don't like chronographs.
I do like the day feature (I thought you liked it to as the JLC MM has it?)
I don;t like watches bigger than 39mm
I'm okay with yellot gold (sort of) and love rose gold on a watch - however I dislike white gold.
I don't like gemstones on a watch (unless it's a diamond in the case of a platinum Patek).
I like reasonably complicated dials.
I don't like too much bling, so anything that is too much of any bling is not for me (like JJ's passwind, or an all gold Rolex).

[bhrees]

I dislike two-tones,I prefer white gold or platinum
watches larger than 42MM. 36 to 40 is perfect
watches with odd shapes
Overly large numbers
excessive jewelry, Diamond markers I can tolerate, but jeweled bezels are for ladies
visible lugs or screw down crystals

[JJ Irani]

Ah yes, I forgot my most important dislike....watch must be at least 40 mm in size - no less!!

Exception to the above rule would have to be ONLY the Exp-II which actually measures up to 39 mm!!

[Mr. K]

1. Rolled (folded) bands. Do not see many of those around here though.
2. Fakes
3. Not a big fan of GMT third hand watches, but they slowly growing on me.

[mamas]

ok here are my pet dislikes..

i) diamonds on a mans watch.. would you like matching earings and stilletos with that sir?
ii) a fake of any type .. useful for trying out your newest hammer
iii) watches over 42mm .. if i wanted to wear a dinner plate on my wrist i would get something in fine porcelein
iv) quartz watches
v) anything too contemporary

[Subfiend]

1. Anything bearing the word "Panerai"
2. Fakes
3. Anything < 39-40mm
4. Square cases or dials
5. Anything digital

[JJ Irani]

Originally Posted by Subfiend

1. Anything bearing the word "Panerai"
2. Fakes
3. Anything < 40mm
4. Square cases or dials
5. Anything digital

David,

I'm quite surprised that you DON'T like Pannies. I've seen quite a few of them at Mansor's...even handled them and have been most impressed with their heft and finish. I won't say I don't like them, but I certainly wouldn't invest in one of them. However, I do admire them.

JJ

[Johnny B]

Originally Posted by Subfiend

1. Anything bearing the word "Panerai"
2. Fakes
3. Anything < 39-40mm
4. Square cases or dials
5. Anything digital

[Subfiend]

Nope, I do not like them at all. Not one of them. I think they are a passing fad, too big and jewelry posing as a dive watch.

My apologies to the guys on this forum who disagree with me.

[JJ Irani]

Originally Posted by Subfiend

Nope, I do not like them at all. Not one of them. I think they are a passing fad, too big and jewelry posing as a dive watch.

My apologies to the guys on this forum who disagree with me.

No need to apologise, David....we all have a right to speak our minds....like I dislike NATO straps.

[Johnny B]

Originally Posted by JJ Irani

No need to apologise, David....we all have a right to speak our minds....like I dislike NATO straps.

BTW, JK about my other post, David! I love Panerai (and Rolex, and IWC, and Breitling, and Omega, etc and am on my second one now, but que sera, sera. Anywho, what exactly is this NATO strap that I keep hearing about? I'm quite interested.

[JJ Irani]

Originally Posted by Johnny B

BTW, JK about my other post, David! I love Panerai (and Rolex, and IWC, and Breitling, and Omega, etc and am on my second one now, but que sera, sera. Anywho, what exactly is this NATO strap that I keep hearing about? I'm quite interested.

LOL! Seriously, you don't want to know about a cheap POS cotton, striped strap that looks completely out of place on a Rolex.....try to imagine this, JB....take a Ferrari Enzo...rip off the original wheels and slap on some local alloys which you think look good on that car!!

Get the picture?

[ralphieralph]

Originally Posted by JJ Irani

LOL! Seriously, you don't want to know about a cheap POS cotton, striped strap that looks completely out of place on a Rolex.....try to imagine this, JB....take a Ferrari Enzo...rip off the original wheels and slap on some local alloys which you think look good on that car!!

Get the picture?

[Johnny B]

Originally Posted by JJ Irani

LOL! Seriously, you don't want to know about a cheap POS cotton, striped strap that looks completely out of place on a Rolex.....try to imagine this, JB....take a Ferrari Enzo...rip off the original wheels and slap on some local alloys which you think look good on that car!!

Get the picture?

[dman]

Originally Posted by Subfiend

Nope, I do not like them at all. Not one of them. I think they are a passing fad, too big and jewelry posing as a dive watch.

My apologies to the guys on this forum who disagree with me.

No reason to apologize at all David, as I like Pannies and can't really stand Rolex at all. It is different tastes that make the world go round, especially when people can tolerate others likes and dislikes. As for a fad, only time will tell, every company started somewhere.

[Subfiend]

Originally Posted by dman

No reason to apologize at all David, as I like Pannies and can't really stand Rolex at all. It is different tastes that make the world go round, especially when people can tolerate others likes and dislikes. As for a fad, only time will tell, every company started somewhere.

I'm glad you understand my point of view Daren. I don't mean to bash the brand, I was just stating my opinion. There are other brands out there I don't care for too, and Padi and I have a gentleman's disagreement about the propriety of wearing a Sub for diving.

I will not, however, change my violent dislike for tuna fish and mayonaise, or my longstanding belief that it's revolting. If anybody disagrees with me, they're weird. And that's that!

[dman]

Originally Posted by Subfiend

I'm glad you understand my point of view Daren. I don't mean to bash the brand, I was just stating my opinion. There are other brands out there I don't care for too, and Padi and I have a gentleman's disagreement about the propriety of wearing a Sub for diving.

I will not, however, change my violent dislike for tuna fish and mayonaise, or my longstanding belief that it's revolting. If anybody disagrees with me, they're weird. And that's that!

Just please don't tell me you are a Miracle whip guy.

I love that fact that on this forum, it is about the people not the watches. If we all liked the same things, it would be really boring around here. My point was just that for 99.999999% of watch wearers, it is all about how it looks to them personally, because most of these watches aren't being used for the intended purpose.

[Johnny B]

Originally Posted by dman

Just please don't tell me you are a Miracle whip guy.

I love that fact that on this forum, it is about the people not the watches. If we all liked the same things, it would be really boring around here. My point was just that for 99.999999% of watch wearers, it is all about how it looks to them personally, because most of these watches aren't being used for the intended purpose.

You could not have said it more eloquently or concisely, dman. I too, have owned Rolexes(Sub, ExpII, and YM) and Panerais(PAM 25 and 86) and have never had a problem with any of them. I had both my ExpII and my 25(Ti Submersible) serviced and I actually had more problems with the quality of service on the ExpII. It's all a crap shoot sometimes, you know? But, I still love both brands and totally agree with your experiences concerning others and their watch "prejudices". Many people are quite stuffy when it comes to their Rolexes and will quickly bash any other brand mentioned. On the other hand, Panerai people do seem, for the most part, more open minded when it comes to "other" watch brands. But, again, it's all a crap shoot. Some people are cool ; some are not .
I will also agree with you that this forum is an exception to the general forum community. Everyone here is courteous, respectful, and open minded (if a bit crazy !). It's also been my experience in "forum cruising" that this is usually the exception, and not the rule. So, in closing...jeez what the hell was my point at the beginning of all this? Oh, well...I guess it can be most simply summed up like this: TRF+JB=

[mailman]

Originally Posted by Subfiend

I will not, however, change my violent dislike for tuna fish and mayonaise, or my longstanding belief that it's revolting. If anybody disagrees with me, they're weird. And that's that!

I like tuna and mayonaise. Not miracle whip.

[mailman]

Good thesis Daren. It's right on

[Subfiend]

I also dislike tuna fish and mayonaise, but my son, who I adore, is hooked on it. I still love him though.

[Goodwatch]

"Can't really stand Rolex at all"? But, but, but..... I like both brands, would like a Radiomir Black Seal besides the 16610. What in particular has put yoy off Rolex Daren? If you don't want to start a potentially 'bloody' thread, PM me.

[RobDad]

I like the look of Panerai, but having owned (and sold) a 40mm Pam 48 and a 44mm Pam 005, I'd never buy another.

The finish and quality was terrible on both (G-series, which I think had a few problems), they were way off Cosc specs, the crown protector was fitted 'wonky' on the 005, they glued the bracelet screws in after the service, the 005 stopped and the crown wouldn't pop out so you could re-set it............the folding clasp on the Pam 48 was really uncomfortable, the list goes on.

They do come in a lovely box though, with a screwdriver you can't use after they've glued the screws in, a spare strap which is too short, and a COSC sheet which bears no reality to the watch.....

Apart from that I love 'em!!!

If anyone ever got a good one, which was comfortable and didn't break after 2 months - I envy them!

[dman]

I have owned four, and not one problem with them at all. I love the way they sit on the wrist and the fact that they are not on every other wrist I see, yeah a Rolex is whether you want to admit it or not. I have never had any problems with the service or screws, so maybe I am the rare exception, but I doubt it. I like to stand a bit apart from the average crowd, be it good or bad.

Of the two own right now, the 88 is +1 for this entire week and has been on the winder the whole time, the 24 is +1.5 a day and it has been on the wrist the whole time. I am not sure what the YM is, although I did wear it for about an hour last night. I know Panerai is not a horological wonder, but it is what I like, a unique large watch that I never see out and about. And when I do see a person wearing one, there is an instant community that is NON EXISTENT with Rolex owners in public.

My sour taste for Rolex has to do with both Rolex USA and also the stigma that goes along with them. I cringe when a person wants to talk watches with me at work, because they only want to talk about their Rolex. How expensive it is, how great it is, yada yada. I don't presume to think all owners are like this, but stereotypes do exist out of truth.

To say that Panerai want to be diving watches is funny to me, since that is where their history came from. I never go deeper than the deep end of my pool, and it seems to be okay for that. Of the percentage of owners of SD and 16610, I am pretty sure that not that many of them use them as dive watches, so in effect, they too own a watch posing as a dive watch. The ones that do (like Dave) have every right to talk, but for a person that won't even take their watch in the pool, that holds no water with me.

Rolex is Rolex and will always be that. It is a super watch that is rugged and timeless. What do I like best about the brand? The fact that the resell value is so high.

I split time between here and a few Panerai sites, and there are some glaring differences I see between Rolex and Panerai owners.

One is a true sense of community, this forum may be the only Rolex forum that breaks that rule, if there is another I have yet to run accross it.

Another is that Panerai owners almost never seem to think that Panerai is the greatest watch out there, in fact most all own other brands and appreciate the differences. Rolex owners can't stand the differences and have a high propensity to BASH other brands. This is one thing that I have found to be related to all rolex forums.

In closing my thesis, I will say that I still own and love my YM, although it gets one day a week max on the wrist. It was bought to mark a special occasion and will stick around through it all. It is just the attitude of many Rolex owners that their watch is the BEST and ONLY watch out there that turned me off the company TOTALLY!!!

Although, I have been around these forums long enough to not be surprised by it, the other brand bashing by Rolex owners is almost as reliable as the 3135 itself. Neither one ever seems to fail.

Did that answer your question Frans? I hope so.