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jets · 16 March 2010, 01:13 PM

I love these threads. Just like candy...

MikeyTX · 12 April 2010, 10:32 AM

Help ............. Need more storage space ..........................

WouterN · 14 June 2010, 11:33 PM

Another 16700 owner says hi from the Netherlands. Picked up this beauty yesterday morning. A nice addition to my collection (Sub Lv, Seadweller and some watches from other brands like Maurice Lacrois and Breitling). I think the watch is beautifull.. It's a 'Swiss only' (A serial) from 1999 with a Coke styled inlay. I am looking for a Pepsi inlay also just to have that option :)

ABChop · 15 June 2010, 02:11 AM

Just picked up this "A" series...........love it.

And yes that is the original black bezel that came with it.

liv2rce · 17 September 2010, 02:12 AM

Hello everyone, I found this forum after doing some research on the purchase of my very first Rolex. I picked it up from an Estate Jeweler in Charlotte, N.C.

From not really knowing much about all the different models available, I feel that I got very lucky on my first purchase of a Rolex. It is a 1989 GMT-Master 16700. It has the black 18k and stainless "Tiger's Eye" bezel, which is what caught my eye. I had never seen one like this and from all that I have now read, I realize that this did not come standard for this year but was an option (maybe someone can clarify).

The watch came with an aftermarket crocodile band with white stitching. It looks nice and fits with the whole black theme but I was thinking of getting a two tone 18k and stainless band to dress it up. I understand this model came with the oyster band, which I actually prefer over the jubilee. I know that to get and original could run me thousands (which I really can't do) but I want to stay true to the look. Can anyone point me in the right direction?

I read that we shouldn't post links to aftermarket sites, so you can PM me with any info that might help.

Sorry if I hijacked this thread but when I did a Google search on the GMT, this was the thread it brought me to.......which is absolutely incredible by the way

dogtown · 13 October 2010, 12:43 PM

I just swapped my Sea-Dweller out for a 1999 A Series 16700 Pepsi and I love it!
Nice quickset date and gorgeous dial. I also have the black bezel cause those look killer too.

Medtech · 10 February 2011, 01:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by superformance

What was last year or series of the GMT 16700? Also what series did the fliplock type bracelet appear? thanks

The last year of the 16700 was 1999.

As discussed, the fliplock was an option on all the 16700s. Not sure when that bracelet "first" came to be.

Grissom · 17 February 2011, 10:17 AM

I would like to thank Larry (Tools) for a GREAT, informative article, which helped me tremendously, with regards to my recent acquisition of an "A" Serial Number (1999) 16700. Pic of my 1999 16700 (Luminova) marked Swiss Made dial along with a screen pic of his 1997 16700 (one of the last Tritium Dials) marked Swiss - T < 25 dial, from this very thread, as well as a lume shot of mine, now some 10+ years old!

Threads like this are one of the many reasons to love being a member of TRF.

Again, thanks, Larry!!

Nathan

Medtech · 5 March 2011, 01:30 PM

Larry,
Many thanks for this excellent article and the awesome pics.

Here is my one and only Rolex, an E serial 16700 (1990). Original sub bracelet and pepsi bezel (pics shown w/ cheap aftermarket black insert).

model7el · 18 March 2011, 09:29 AM

great post

Pencinta Masa · 9 May 2011, 01:06 AM

Thanks Larry for the very useful information.

This is my first post here, and this is my first Rolex - an E series 16700.

Newportkrieger · 9 May 2011, 03:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pencinta Masa

Thanks Larry for the very useful information.

This is my first post here, and this is my first Rolex - an E series 16700.

I too have an E series 16700. Its a great watch that combines the best of old and new for a great daily wear watch. I am activly looking for an U or A series 16700 with the luminova dial to add to my GMT collection. I personally think that wiht the realatively short production run/numbers this may start to gain some interest in the vintage community despite its sapphire crystal. To me its the "transitional GMT".

fast beat movement
quickset date
scratch resistant sapphire crystal
traditional GMT 24 hr hand function

My daily wear GMT, currently giving me +1 sec/day accuracy:

sorsara · 9 May 2011, 04:50 PM

when they say Crystal= sapphire

what part of the watch are they talking about exactly?

Newportkrieger · 25 June 2011, 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sorsara

when they say Crystal= sapphire

what part of the watch are they talking about exactly?

The crystal is the clear covering over the dial of the watch. A Rolex with a crystal made of plastic/acrylic is considerred "vintage" where as a man made sapphire crystal is considered modern.

dddrees · 6 August 2011, 12:03 AM

Another excellent review Larry. Thanks again for helping me to build my knowledge on these watches.

SWIMPRUF · 6 August 2011, 08:38 PM

Nice review Larry.

604Rolex · 5 January 2012, 08:11 PM

great information! I'm currently looking to purchase a 1999 GMT black bezel with original oyster bracelet. On the box it says 16700 movement.

How much is reasonable to pay for this watch? Condition is fair, normal wear.

AndersB · 8 January 2012, 09:42 AM

Tools! A great thread and a great watch. One thing though: I believe the weight that you have included in the facts list (127 grams) is for a watch with Solid End Links, and most (or all?) ref 16700s came with non-SEL bracelets didn't they? The non-SELs weigh a couple of grams less. Cheers

Tools · 8 January 2012, 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndersB

Tools! A great thread and a great watch. One thing though: I believe the weight that you have included in the facts list (127 grams) is for a watch with Solid End Links, and most (or all?) ref 16700s came with non-SEL bracelets didn't they? The non-SELs weigh a couple of grams less. Cheers

This is true, the 16700 will weigh around 123 grams, depending on the bracelet it comes with.

Hanz079 · 10 April 2012, 12:37 PM

Just a question.
What series of this ref 16700 comes with spider dial?
Would a "w" series pepsi with spider dial deemed legit?
Some said during the early nineties, rolex have rectified the spider dial problem.
Thanks

ScottP · 17 July 2012, 03:38 PM

Excellent!!!

Alinoe · 17 July 2012, 09:09 PM

This is a great write-up, and was instrumental in helping me decide to pull the trigger on my own 16700!

I do have one question though. The seller said it was from 1996, but it has an S serial, which I read somewhere was 1993. Is there overlap in the serialnumbers/years? Or is it possible it was made in 1993 and just not sold before 96?

sidlefaye · 26 October 2012, 07:36 PM

its a wonderful watch to wear any day of the year.16700 needed more respect.vintage is cool.but i think the transitional are just as cool or even cooler.

andyboy39 · 26 October 2012, 08:09 PM

Very informative.. Cheers..

Kingair · 20 February 2013, 11:14 AM

Just bought this GMT 16700 in LA . . .

U-model

HAGOne

MC1988 · 22 February 2013, 01:05 PM

Beautiful...

juju38 · 8 March 2013, 11:12 PM

my TDW

16700 E

Tudor66 · 18 March 2013, 10:46 AM

Awesome write up...I have owned a 16710, and frankly I couldn't get used to the non-quickset date and the independently moving hour hand. I settled on a 1675 for my gmt needs, but I will consider a 16700 at some point...

JerimiahLee · 15 June 2013, 02:41 PM

A big fan of the 16700 myself. I picked this "A" serial from October 99 sourced from Europe.

K3VB · 25 June 2013, 04:27 AM

Love the review, recently purchased a 16700 Pepsi it's being serviced ATM to bring it back to life, it's a U serial with Swiss on the dial, I'm assuming from what I've read it's about 1997/1998

16 March 2010, 01:13 PM	#1
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12 April 2010, 10:32 AM	#2
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15 June 2010, 02:11 AM	#4
ABChop "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 671	Just picked up this "A" series...........love it. And yes that is the original black bezel that came with it. __________________ - "M" 16600 Sea-Dweller - "A" GMT 16700. -“A” 16613LB Sub - 1680 Red Sub, Mark II, "Full Set" - 116660 DSSD D-Blue, 124060, 126613LN, 116710BLNR - 116500LN White Dial - “U” 16610 “SWISS” dial

17 September 2010, 02:12 AM	#5
liv2rce Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Real Name: Chris Location: Rocky Top Watch: GMT 16700 Posts: 20	Newbie Hello everyone, I found this forum after doing some research on the purchase of my very first Rolex. I picked it up from an Estate Jeweler in Charlotte, N.C. From not really knowing much about all the different models available, I feel that I got very lucky on my first purchase of a Rolex. It is a 1989 GMT-Master 16700. It has the black 18k and stainless "Tiger's Eye" bezel, which is what caught my eye. I had never seen one like this and from all that I have now read, I realize that this did not come standard for this year but was an option (maybe someone can clarify). The watch came with an aftermarket crocodile band with white stitching. It looks nice and fits with the whole black theme but I was thinking of getting a two tone 18k and stainless band to dress it up. I understand this model came with the oyster band, which I actually prefer over the jubilee. I know that to get and original could run me thousands (which I really can't do) but I want to stay true to the look. Can anyone point me in the right direction? I read that we shouldn't post links to aftermarket sites, so you can PM me with any info that might help. Sorry if I hijacked this thread but when I did a Google search on the GMT, this was the thread it brought me to.......which is absolutely incredible by the way

17 February 2011, 10:17 AM	#8
Grissom "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Real Name: Nathan Location: US, Latin America Watch: GMT IIc 18K/SS Posts: 3,349	I would like to thank Larry (Tools) for a GREAT, informative article, which helped me tremendously, with regards to my recent acquisition of an "A" Serial Number (1999) 16700. Pic of my 1999 16700 (Luminova) marked Swiss Made dial along with a screen pic of his 1997 16700 (one of the last Tritium Dials) marked Swiss - T < 25 dial, from this very thread, as well as a lume shot of mine, now some 10+ years old! Threads like this are one of the many reasons to love being a member of TRF. Again, thanks, Larry!! Nathan Attached Images __________________ *(Member NAWCC since 1976)* 116713LN GMT-IIc 18k/SS (Z) + 116520 SS Daytona (M) + 16700 GMT Master (A) + 16610LV Submariner (V) + 16600 Sea Dweller (Z) + 116400 Milgauss White Dial (V) + 70330N Tudor Heritage Chronograph Grey w/Black Sub Dials (J) + 5513 Submariner Serif Dial (5.2 Mil) Who else needs an Intervention? (109 297) (137 237) (73 115) (221) (23) (56) (229) P-Club Member #5 RIP JJ Irani - TRF Legend

14 June 2010, 11:33 PM	#3
WouterN "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Real Name: Wouter Location: Amsterdam, NL Watch: Vintage subs Posts: 129	Another 16700 owner says hi from the Netherlands. Picked up this beauty yesterday morning. A nice addition to my collection (Sub Lv, Seadweller and some watches from other brands like Maurice Lacrois and Breitling). I think the watch is beautifull.. It's a 'Swiss only' (A serial) from 1999 with a Coke styled inlay. I am looking for a Pepsi inlay also just to have that option :)

13 October 2010, 12:43 PM	#6
dogtown "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 12	I just swapped my Sea-Dweller out for a 1999 A Series 16700 Pepsi and I love it! Nice quickset date and gorgeous dial. I also have the black bezel cause those look killer too.

5 March 2011, 01:30 PM	#9
Medtech Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: West-siide! Watch: it buddy! Posts: 334	Larry, Many thanks for this excellent article and the awesome pics. Here is my one and only Rolex, an E serial 16700 (1990). Original sub bracelet and pepsi bezel (pics shown w/ cheap aftermarket black insert). Attached Images

18 March 2011, 09:29 AM	#10
model7el Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Real Name: Jose Antonio Location: mexico Watch: GMT Posts: 49	great post

9 May 2011, 01:06 AM	#11
Pencinta Masa Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Malaysia Posts: 26	Thanks Larry for the very useful information. This is my first post here, and this is my first Rolex - an E series 16700.

9 May 2011, 04:50 PM	#13
sorsara Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Dubai Posts: 26	when they say Crystal= sapphire what part of the watch are they talking about exactly?

6 August 2011, 12:03 AM	#15
dddrees "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Real Name: Dan Location: USA Watch: This N That Posts: 34,253	Another excellent review Larry. Thanks again for helping me to build my knowledge on these watches. __________________ When it captures your imagination, that's when you know you have found your passion. Loyal Foot Soldier of The Nylon Nation. Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons

6 August 2011, 08:38 PM	#16
SWIMPRUF "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: * Posts: 2,323	Nice review Larry. __________________ Member# 52,675 Est. 3/2011

5 January 2012, 08:11 PM	#17
604Rolex "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Vancouver Posts: 3	great information! I'm currently looking to purchase a 1999 GMT black bezel with original oyster bracelet. On the box it says 16700 movement. How much is reasonable to pay for this watch? Condition is fair, normal wear.

8 January 2012, 09:42 AM	#18
AndersB "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Europe Posts: 603	Tools! A great thread and a great watch. One thing though: I believe the weight that you have included in the facts list (127 grams) is for a watch with Solid End Links, and most (or all?) ref 16700s came with non-SEL bracelets didn't they? The non-SELs weigh a couple of grams less. Cheers

10 April 2012, 12:37 PM	#20
Hanz079 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Malaysia Posts: 195	Just a question. What series of this ref 16700 comes with spider dial? Would a "w" series pepsi with spider dial deemed legit? Some said during the early nineties, rolex have rectified the spider dial problem. Thanks

17 July 2012, 03:38 PM	#21
ScottP "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Real Name: Scott Location: western Colorado Watch: 116710 GMT Master Posts: 51	Excellent!!!

17 July 2012, 09:09 PM	#22
Alinoe "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Norway Posts: 98	This is a great write-up, and was instrumental in helping me decide to pull the trigger on my own 16700! I do have one question though. The seller said it was from 1996, but it has an S serial, which I read somewhere was 1993. Is there overlap in the serialnumbers/years? Or is it possible it was made in 1993 and just not sold before 96?

26 October 2012, 07:36 PM	#23
sidlefaye "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: australia Posts: 6	its a wonderful watch to wear any day of the year.16700 needed more respect.vintage is cool.but i think the transitional are just as cool or even cooler.

26 October 2012, 08:09 PM	#24
andyboy39 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: New Zealand Watch: Day Date Posts: 1,409	Very informative.. Cheers..

20 February 2013, 11:14 AM	#25
Kingair "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: USA Watch: Not enough ;-) Posts: 21,232	Just bought this GMT 16700 in LA . . . U-model HAGOne Attached Images

22 February 2013, 01:05 PM	#26
MC1988 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 1	Beautiful...

8 March 2013, 11:12 PM	#27
juju38 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Real Name: julien Location: france Watch: rolex,tudor,omega Posts: 35	my TDW 16700 E

18 March 2013, 10:46 AM	#28
Tudor66 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Real Name: Al Location: California, USA Watch: GMT- Pepsi Posts: 3,462	Great thread.... Awesome write up...I have owned a 16710, and frankly I couldn't get used to the non-quickset date and the independently moving hour hand. I settled on a 1675 for my gmt needs, but I will consider a 16700 at some point... __________________ -NAWCC Member

15 June 2013, 02:41 PM	#29
JerimiahLee "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Real Name: Jerimiah Location: NYC Watch: 5513 Meters 1st Posts: 669	A big fan of the 16700 myself. I picked this "A" serial from October 99 sourced from Europe.

25 June 2013, 04:27 AM	#30
K3VB Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: London Watch: GMT Master Pepsi Posts: 38	Love the review, recently purchased a 16700 Pepsi it's being serviced ATM to bring it back to life, it's a U serial with Swiss on the dial, I'm assuming from what I've read it's about 1997/1998

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