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Old 23 September 2008, 04:41 AM   #61
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Now I'm thinking of that sister of yours again. Betty Sue...the one with six toes and the extra nipple.

At least her teeth are all her own tho!

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Old 23 September 2008, 04:51 AM   #62
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Would love to see a credible link to support this claim.

If you feel that a fan jumping out and saying, "Boo" to a Euro player is so unsporting then you hold your standards of fan conduct pretty dang high, in my opinion. Such an action wouldn't even register on most people's radar screens, let alone warrant being thrown out of an event.

As for being proud, you're right - I am proud of how well the American team played and how well they carried themselves around the course. I was also proud of the American fan support and also impressed with the Euro fan support. I thought both teams were professional and handled the matches with the utmost class and integrity, but also let the spirit move them from time to time.
this is the guy dressed as the ghost right!!!!!!

I think the US team played fantastically and played some great golf, if anything it was gonna be their year without Tiger playing.

I think it's a shame that if these allegations are true about the fans and press ringing the players rooms in the middle of the night then it is a little sad and detracts from what would be considered as a great US victory by folk on both sides of the Atlantic.

As for your comments on fan behaviour...I'm a tottenham hotspur fan (look it up)...I've seen my fair share of bad behaviour, fighting between rival fans and player abuse. I've been at the Lane and seen players shirts soaked in spit when they take a corner kick!

However, I thought Golf was supposed to be a gentleman's game! I don't play the game but those that do have often said that concentration is a major part of the game. Doesn't Tiger often whinge about photo taking, noise at the tee?

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Old 23 September 2008, 05:55 AM   #63
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this is the guy dressed as the ghost right!!!!!!

I think the US team played fantastically and played some great golf, if anything it was gonna be their year without Tiger playing.

I think it's a shame that if these allegations are true about the fans and press ringing the players rooms in the middle of the night then it is a little sad and detracts from what would be considered as a great US victory by folk on both sides of the Atlantic.

As for your comments on fan behaviour...I'm a tottenham hotspur fan (look it up)...I've seen my fair share of bad behaviour, fighting between rival fans and player abuse. I've been at the Lane and seen players shirts soaked in spit when they take a corner kick!

However, I thought Golf was supposed to be a gentleman's game! I don't play the game but those that do have often said that concentration is a major part of the game. Doesn't Tiger often whinge about photo taking, noise at the tee?

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I'm glad you picked up on the "spirit moves them" comment.

As one to casually follow politics here in America, I'm one to not believe rumours or friend of a friend stories so until I see a credible link to these stories, I'm suspect of the validity of said stories. After all, if an American zealot wanted to truly sabotage the Euro team, one would have pulled the fire alarm at 2:30 a.m. and had all the hotel occupants and staff out on the street for 20 minutes while the fire department figured out it was a false alarm. A simple phone call to a room would have resulted in me waking up, answering, hanging up and going back to bed in less than 2 minutes.

I believe it poor sportmanship to make any deliberate noise in an attempt to disturb a player while that player is going through their pre-shot routine and addressing the ball; however, cheering and being vocal is encouraged at these Ryder Cup events and also at PGA and LPGA tour events. However, I watched most of the Ryder Cup coverage and didn't note a single instance of a fan or player making a deliberate noise to disturb another player in their address of a ball.

I don't see how the actions of a few fans (even if true) would detract from what the US Ryder Cup Team did this year. It's not like Phil Mickelson took his DateJust off and threw it at Sergio's crotch when Sergio was about to make contact with his Titleist ProV1. Then, by all means, say that the US Ryder Cup Team cheated and their behavior was unsportsmanlike and uncalled for and such an action detracted from their win.

Oh well, perhaps we'll never see eye to eye on this issue but here's to my friend from across the way.
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Old 23 September 2008, 06:03 AM   #64
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I'm glad you picked up on the "spirit moves them" comment.

As one to casually follow politics here in America, I'm one to not believe rumours or friend of a friend stories so until I see a credible link to these stories, I'm suspect of the validity of said stories. After all, if an American zealot wanted to truly sabotage the Euro team, one would have pulled the fire alarm at 2:30 a.m. and had all the hotel occupants and staff out on the street for 20 minutes while the fire department figured out it was a false alarm. A simple phone call to a room would have resulted in me waking up, answering, hanging up and going back to bed in less than 2 minutes.

I believe it poor sportmanship to make any deliberate noise in an attempt to disturb a player while that player is going through their pre-shot routine and addressing the ball; however, cheering and being vocal is encouraged at these Ryder Cup events and also at PGA and LPGA tour events. However, I watched most of the Ryder Cup coverage and didn't note a single instance of a fan or player making a deliberate noise to disturb another player in their address of a ball.

I don't see how the actions of a few fans (even if true) would detract from what the US Ryder Cup Team did this year. It's not like Phil Mickelson took his DateJust off and threw it at Sergio's crotch when Sergio was about to make contact with his Titleist ProV1. Then, by all means, say that the US Ryder Cup Team cheated and their behavior was unsportsmanlike and uncalled for and such an action detracted from their win.
Oh well, perhaps we'll never see eye to eye on this issue but here's to my friend from across the way.
Dood, that would have been awesome....and no less than Serj deserved!!!!!

As I said, the US team should be proud, they played great golf and their putting was almost immaculate!

Here's to them and their more sporting fans

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Old 23 September 2008, 07:08 AM   #65
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Hey I'm serious...I think that's not on....neither were the phone calls or allegations that US newspapers were paying rewards for hotel staff to divulge the Euro player's phone numbers!!!!!

You should be proud Josh, they've done your country proud!
Wow, you should be talking about newspapers. When I got on the plane to London I wondered why they handed me the British equivalent of the National Enquirer. I didn't realize until the same thing was delivered to my room every day that this was the actual press, not a novelty.

The high majority of the fans did fine on both the US and Euro sides. Mr. Westwood might do well to check in under a different name next time like most celebrities do even when they're not in enemy territory, and Mr. Garcia might consider not kicking his bag over when he loses a hole like he did yesterday which did actually happen and isn't just an allegation. People screw up... oh well.
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Old 23 September 2008, 07:56 AM   #66
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When I am knocking a little white ball into a hole, I want yelling, cheering, cussing, and general bad behaviour before, during and after the event.. I will stop in the middle of my put and ask for fan interaction if needed.
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Old 23 September 2008, 08:00 AM   #67
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When I am knocking a little white ball into a hole, I want yelling, cheering, cussing, and general bad behaviour before, during and after the event.. I will stop in the middle of my put and ask for fan interaction if needed.
Does your caddy hold the flag for you and pull it out at the last moment? I know that is my preference
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Old 23 September 2008, 08:14 AM   #68
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After this thread I understand why we don't discuss politics here. Congrats to the US team, and well played Europe. I understand the British press is really on Faldo but one of his picks had the best record of either side. He couldn't hit the shots for Westwood, Sergio and Harrington, the Big Three, who didn't win a match (and no Luke Donald) That was the difference.
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After this thread I understand why we don't discuss politics here. Congrats to the US team, and well played Europe. I understand the British press is really on Faldo but one of his picks had the best record of either side. He couldn't hit the shots for Westwood, Sergio and Harrington, the Big Three, who didn't win a match (and no Luke Donald) That was the difference.

Just becasue I live in the gutter, don't mean I am a politician dummy.
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The gutter would be a move up for most of them.
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Does your caddy hold the flag for you and pull it out at the last moment? I know that is my preference
I think the more important thing is whether there is a lot of cheering by the caddy after the birdie finally goes into the hole.
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The only time I've ever had a caddie was when I played the Old Course at St. Andrews with my old man. They were both hilarious and perfect gentlemen all rolled into one. I had to tip mine really well as he had a rake in his hand most of the day
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Old 23 September 2008, 11:54 AM   #74
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how much do you hv to pay fr the caddie ?

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how much do you hv to pay fr the caddie ?
I think the caddy was around 40 Scottish pounds (just before they went to the Euro) and I tipped him about that much as well. Don't quote me on that figure though. It was well worth it whatever it was.
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