Dodge Demon

[droptopman]

Would love to drive one of these. I was pretty close to pulling the trigger on a Hellcat. Took one for the weekend when they first came out. Crazy fun to drive and actually very streetable. Easy to drive, but all the power is there when you want it. Reminded me of a 60-70's muscle car but with a ton more power and technology. You can get the Hellcat loose pretty easy but you have to try to do it and it was easy to correct. If I went this route I would need 2 cars. Need something for winter so stick with the Euro AWD performance. Much prefer driving RWD muscle, but have to make compromises...

This Demon is another level. Curious as to how it drives off the track.

[1st amg]

I️ have driven countless GTR being very involved in auto racing clubs. I️ am not doubting its abilities, but the combination of state of the art all wheel drive, electronics for every single driver aid imaginable. This car has no soul. If you are a crappy driver, this car will flaunt you and your lack of driving skills. A car like a Demon if you lack in the skill department , will kill you. And, the car sounds like a vacuum cleaner with a hole in the suction tube.


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[Valenciawatchrepair]

Originally Posted by 1st amg

I️ have driven countless GTR being very involved in auto racing clubs. I️ am not doubting its abilities, but the combination of state of the art all wheel drive, electronics for every single driver aid imaginable. This car has no soul. If you are a crappy driver, this car will flaunt you and your lack of driving skills. A car like a Demon if you lack in the skill department , will kill you. And, the car sounds like a vacuum cleaner with a hole in the suction tube.


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Not to mention just having either car sitting and idling. DEMON>GTR

[yvrclimber]

Originally Posted by 1st amg

I️ have driven countless GTR being very involved in auto racing clubs. I️ am not doubting its abilities, but the combination of state of the art all wheel drive, electronics for every single driver aid imaginable. This car has no soul. If you are a crappy driver, this car will flaunt you and your lack of driving skills. A car like a Demon if you lack in the skill department , will kill you. And, the car sounds like a vacuum cleaner with a hole in the suction tube.


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Or take a skilled driver to the next level. We'll have to agree to differ.

I'll give you the exhaust point, which is why the first mod people do is custom exhaust. Like many cars, GT-R or otherwise (father-in-law's Challenger comes to mind).

I still think the Demon is a one trick pony with no finesse whatsoever. Like the Vipers, etc before it. Once you've played that party piece, what's left? Cruising down Main Street? Idling in the driveway for your buddies?

Buying new tires maybe heh heh heh

[Formulansx]

I don't know but a hardcore package Viper had the track record at the ring short shifting and won Le Mans several times. The Demon is just meant to be badass but still have a full warranty. Keep in mind it's a bone stock car and Dodge won't void your warranty if you take it to the strip. I read Dodge did an obsessive amount of launches on that car with 0 problems. Can't remember the exact number but it was completely reckless. A factory car with real launch control on skinnies that wheelies with a warranty!!?? How can you not love that!! Also a RWD car that has the record for production cars 0-60 in a day and age of AWD Hyper cars. Totally nuts. Not even an E85 tune at that. Couple snaps from Sema this year.













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[achenator]

Originally Posted by Formulansx

I don't know but a hardcore package Viper had the track record at the ring short shifting and won Le Mans several times. The Demon is just meant to be badass but still have a full warranty. Keep in mind it's a bone stock car and Dodge won't void your warranty if you take it to the strip. I read Dodge did an obsessive amount of launches on that car with 0 problems. Can't remember the exact number but it was completely reckless. A factory car with real launch control on skinnies that wheelies with a warranty!!?? How can you not love that!! Also a RWD car that has the record for production cars 0-60 in a day and age of AWD Hyper cars. Totally nuts. Not even an E85 tune at that. Couple snaps from Sema this year.













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Yeah it' the fastest on drag radial on a prepped track. I can't wait to embarrass one of these from a stoplight in my R8 v10+ with 190 less HP .

[Formulansx]

Originally Posted by achenator

Yeah it' the fastest on drag radial on a prepped track. I can't wait to embarrass one of these from a stoplight in my R8 v10+ with 190 less HP .

Bring a couple turbos with you.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2r09k1pRZ0o

[achenator]

Originally Posted by Formulansx

Bring a couple turbos with you.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2r09k1pRZ0o

notice how I said stoplight and not a roll? I roll raced my 1300+ AWHP GT-R at the premier events for 3 years. I know all about it. HP usually wins. I am talking about digging it out on the street from a dead stop. And not that it makes much difference but my r8 is a 17 and makes a little bit more and probably has a better trans than the old one in the vid. Not that it would be a challenge for a demon from a roll though. you want a fast car vid? this is my old roll race car

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swReJjp9cJY

[Formulansx]

Originally Posted by achenator

notice how I said stoplight and not a roll? I roll raced my 1300+ AWHP GT-R at the premier events for 3 years. I know all about it. HP usually wins. I am talking about digging it out on the street from a dead stop. And not that it makes much difference but my r8 is a 17 and makes a little bit more and probably has a better trans than the old one in the vid. Not that it would be a challenge for a demon from a roll though. you want a fast car vid? this is my old roll race car

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swReJjp9cJY

So when you gonna slap a couple turbos on your Audi??

[superdog]

Originally Posted by achenator

notice how I said stoplight and not a roll? I roll raced my 1300+ AWHP GT-R at the premier events for 3 years. I know all about it. HP usually wins. I am talking about digging it out on the street from a dead stop. And not that it makes much difference but my r8 is a 17 and makes a little bit more and probably has a better trans than the old one in the vid. Not that it would be a challenge for a demon from a roll though. you want a fast car vid? this is my old roll race car

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swReJjp9cJY

I’ll never understand guys like you.

I see it all the time on the car forums. Instead of appreciating the incredible beast that is the Demon, your reaction is to poo poo it and explain why your car is better.

Your Audi also is a work of art. An incredible machine that has earned its status as a super car.

That doesn’t mean you can’t appreciate the DD for what it is. The Audi and the Demon are two incredibly different cars.

Both are something special in my book.

[Kimber007]

Originally Posted by achenator

Yeah it' the fastest on drag radial on a prepped track. I can't wait to embarrass one of these from a stoplight in my R8 v10+ with 190 less HP .

You're bragging about how a car that cost $190k can beat a car that cost $86k?

[achenator]

Originally Posted by Kimber007

You're bragging about how a car that cost $190k can beat a car that cost $86k?

Once again just saying that the numbers that everyone is quoting won't be easily repeatable by most people on the track much less the street. That is all. Yes the Demon is an awesome fast car that will be a handful to drive and will get beat by many cars with much less power. Cars like GT-Rs, R8s , Huracans and Porsche turbos have easily repeatable results by anyone and will be much faster in your average stoplight showdown. That is all. Yes the Demon is 2.3xx or whatever to 60 but I bet its a good bit slower on an unprepared surface where the other cars will do their 2.6-2.9 or whatever all day long. A few people who think horsepower is everything around here think their Demons on order will be the fastest things around just because they have 840 hp.

[Formulansx]

Originally Posted by achenator

Once again just saying that the numbers that everyone is quoting won't be easily repeatable by most people on the track much less the street. That is all. Yes the Demon is an awesome fast car that will be a handful to drive and will get beat by many cars with much less power. Cars like GT-Rs, R8s , Huracans and Porsche turbos have easily repeatable results by anyone and will be much faster in your average stoplight showdown. That is all. Yes the Demon is 2.3xx or whatever to 60 but I bet its a good bit slower on an unprepared surface where the other cars will do their 2.6-2.9 or whatever all day long. A few people who think horsepower is everything around here think their Demons on order will be the fastest things around just because they have 840 hp.

There's a clip around with a Hellcat doing just fine from a dig with a Huracan on the street. It was a shat clip though since the Huracan driver had the worst reaction time in history but it was clear the results. Didn't want to get into a youtube quoting match. Fortunately for me, I'm not going to have to worry about how I'll do against a Demon. I just have a 12 second VW Golf Also it's pretty easy to F-up an AWD launch too.

[Formulansx]

And here's the elephant in the room 2300 whp stock looking Huracan. I walked right passed it until I saw the two BOV's in the back. "Hey look another Huracan........wait a minute!!!" ☠️








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[offrdmania]

Im guessing that if they arent already presold, dealer mark up will have this car sitting on the dealership floor for at least $125K

[1st amg]

I will let you know, I have an appointment with my Dodge dealer tomorrow. He is looking into final numbers and availability here in canada


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[Formulansx]

Originally Posted by 1st amg

I will let you know, I have an appointment with my Dodge dealer tomorrow. He is looking into final numbers and availability here in canada


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Any luck? I can't imagine there's a lot of Demons in Canada.

[Valenciawatchrepair]

Do we have to bench race AWD vs RWD? I mean, I think everyone understands why on the street a car with a couple hundred HP less with AWD will leave a more powerful car. Doesn't really make one car "better" than the other. It's all subjective. The Demon is an incredible car. So is an AWD R8 or an R35.

[achenator]

Originally Posted by Valenciawatchrepair

Do we have to bench race AWD vs RWD? I mean, I think everyone understands why on the street a car with a couple hundred HP less with AWD will leave a more powerful car. Doesn't really make one car "better" than the other. It's all subjective. The Demon is an incredible car. So is an AWD R8 or an R35.

Agreed. I'd love to add a Demon to the stable. Just trying to make the point that the times the pro driver got in the Demon will not be easily repeatable whereas my grandma could whip butt in an AWD car. And an actual owner already has a 720s in the 9's. Anybody want to line their demon up when they get it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eawOtLnMgo8

[breitlings]

Originally Posted by achenator

Agreed. I'd love to add a Demon to the stable. Just trying to make the point that the times the pro driver got in the Demon will not be easily repeatable whereas my grandma could whip butt in an AWD car. And an actual owner already has a 720s in the 9's. Anybody want to line their demon up when they get it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eawOtLnMgo8

I think what you are saying is captured in rolling start times (5-60mph).

[lig]

I love the idea of a car that can do wheelies bone stock and is designed to have that kind of super aggressive weight transfer to the rear wheels from the factory.

I'd never buy one but that doesn't mean I don't appreciate it for what it is.

[Wools]

Originally Posted by BBL

Said to be world's fastest car:

I love the difference in car culture as when I read "Worlds fastest..." I pictured a Nurburgring fastest lap with active aero and when the link opened, it was 800bhp in a Dodge Charger body!

Yep, dragstrip worthy but race track? Have they put it round a track to see what it's capable of?

[HogwldFLTR]

I had a Mustang Cobra for a while; it was a great car for accelerating into traffic. There's no way I'd consider such a beast as the Demon although I've been following it since it was first announced. I'll stick with my cute little Mini S which can get me in more than enough trouble if I'd let it. It a lot of fun to commute in. Nothing like the Demon makes sense to me any more even if it is the fastest production car for 0 to 100 mph and it will pop wheelies.

https://www.dodge.com/demon.html

[Kyle3130]

I'd rather have 2 of these for the price of the demon.

https://youtu.be/mbsYPXAJhxU

Just saying.

The owner of this one is wearing a nice two tone steri dial Sub! (Skip to 8:25)

https://youtu.be/kSteNPIC-qk

[Etschell]

straight line speed is over rated. a motorcycle can do it faster....

perhaps i dont get it but id rather have a vehicle that can turn at speed. very cool that they were able to make this for the price but it is what it is - a gimmick car.

[achenator]

Originally Posted by Etschell

straight line speed is over rated. a motorcycle can do it faster....

perhaps i dont get it but id rather have a vehicle that can turn at speed. very cool that they were able to make this for the price but it is what it is - a gimmick car.

I would rather have a ZR1 or even a new Z06 at the same money as a Demon but I think its awesome that they even made the Demon, gimmick or not. Many people that are getting a Demon i'm sure will already have a full stable of cars that can turn.

[Valenciawatchrepair]

Originally Posted by Etschell

straight line speed is over rated. a motorcycle can do it faster....

perhaps i dont get it but id rather have a vehicle that can turn at speed. very cool that they were able to make this for the price but it is what it is - a gimmick car.

I Posted earlier. The Demon can pull 1G in the skidpad. It's not a '69 Challenger. lol

It'll out brake a Viper ACR from 60 as well.

[Wesley Crusher]

lol @ the track comments.

This is why I stopped posting on car forums. Too frustrating.

[Magwitch]

Such cars should be prohibited from street use.

[Valenciawatchrepair]

Originally Posted by Magwitch

Such cars should be prohibited from street use.

Why? Depending on the reason, you'd have to remove A LOT of other cars already on the street as well.