Spring Bar Pliers

[faz]

Originally Posted by TitanCi

Cool tool to have for simplicity, but why spend that much for a tool? I use a normal spring bar tool and some care. Haven't scratched any of my watches yet!

Compress one side of the spring bar, push up the end link, and move to the other side; re installing is just as easy.


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I have the Bergeon 6767-F as well, and the one time I used it to get the bracelet off of Exp I, and put it back on, man... I was frustrated. Funny I came across this video on youtube from that foul mouthed Archie guy, and this explains exactly how I felt during the work!

(Warning: profanity galore!)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQdjWnXGWXE

[cfracing]

Originally Posted by SemperFi

I’d appreciate it if someone could tell me whether or not the 7825 would work with the Tudor Black Bay.

Since no one has given you an answer yet, I will attempt one although it is not definitive. Maybe someone else will have a definite answer later

The reason the 7825 works on Rolex bracelets is that its 1.0 mm fork will fit in the spring bar opening in the endlink, which is narrower than ones on other manufacturers. I suspect the opening on Tudor endlinks is not smaller and might even be bigger than the Rolex 1.0 mm so the 7825 should work. The only reason the 7825 might not work is if the 1.0 mm fork gap, or opening, is too small for the Tudor spring bar if it is much larger than the Rolex spring bar.

[Ben.McDonald7]

I got the 7925 specifically because the new Rolex bracelet openings are so small. I was fine using a normal spring bar tool on my Omega's but thought the 7825 was worth it to make it all the easier.

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[SemperFi]

Originally Posted by cfracing

Since no one has given you an answer yet, I will attempt one although it is not definitive. Maybe someone else will have a definite answer later

The reason the 7825 works on Rolex bracelets is that its 1.0 mm fork will fit in the spring bar opening in the endlink, which is narrower than ones on other manufacturers. I suspect the opening on Tudor endlinks is not smaller and might even be bigger than the Rolex 1.0 mm so the 7825 should work. The only reason the 7825 might not work is if the 1.0 mm fork gap, or opening, is too small for the Tudor spring bar if it is much larger than the Rolex spring bar.

Thank you for the reply. I do have two Rolex’s so I’ll be buying the 7825 when it becomes available again. I was just curious if it would also work with the Black Bay which would be a bonus.

[offrdmania]

7825s arrived yesterday afternoon. I gave them a try and WOW! So easy

[SemperFi]

Originally Posted by offrdmania

7825s arrived yesterday afternoon. I gave them a try and WOW! So easy

Thanks for the update Matt.
I’m waiting for them to go back in stock.

[offrdmania]

Originally Posted by SemperFi

Thanks for the update Matt.
I’m waiting for them to go back in stock.

They said around the 15th when I was on the phone with them

[Boaters]

Don't do a lot of bracelet changes here is my war chest does all I need

[antbkny]

another vote for the Bergeon 7825

[DoctorA]

Originally Posted by DantonIzzo

I know that Bergeon 6825 is highly recommended, but I think it is way overpriced at $190. Does anyone know anything about this? https://www.banggood.com/Watch-Brace...r_warehouse=CN

So it says the plier tip is 1.10mm, anyone knows if it will fit in the new oyster bracelets space?

[mml4]

I just received my Bergeon #7825 from the eBay guy in France. $149.95 USD,free shipping and arrived in less than a week well wrapped in double shipping envelopes. I can see why the replacement blades are so expensive($119) as the machining on them is exquisite!
I would say you have no worries ordering from the French vendor on eBay.
Marc

[ZOOK]

Originally Posted by offrdmania

Here is a US based company that I just ordered from. I just got off the phone with them and they have 4 left in stock. You can do $3.95 shipping if you are ok with it being shipped in an envelope or $7.95 shipping if you want the protection of a box. Order from the web page because they are technically wholesale and only do phone orders with their wholesale accounts. If you are a watch shop or watch retailer, call them for a discounted rate she told me.

http://www.julesborel.com/products/t...ng-spring-bars

This company has the Bergeon 7825 back in stock.

[offrdmania]

Originally Posted by ZOOK

This company has the Bergeon 7825 back in stock.

Great news!

[offrdmania]

Originally Posted by DoctorA

So it says the plier tip is 1.10mm, anyone knows if it will fit in the new oyster bracelets space?

It may just barely fit, you may have to shave a bit off each side. I’ve read reviews about this model and people have complained that the metal used on the tips is low grade and tend to warp or break on the first use. The gap on the Oyster bracelet is 1.00

[DoctorA]

Originally Posted by offrdmania

It may just barely fit, you may have to shave a bit off each side. I’ve read reviews about this model and people have complained that the metal used on the tips is low grade and tend to warp or break on the first use. The gap on the Oyster bracelet is 1.00

Thank you!

[imperio]

Originally Posted by DoctorA

So it says the plier tip is 1.10mm, anyone knows if it will fit in the new oyster bracelets space?

Well, for what it's worth I use it on both my 2008 Deepsea and 2014 ExpII without issue.

EDIT: Disregard, sorry. Thought you were asking about 7825, which is what I use, not the 6825.

[offrdmania]

Originally Posted by imperio

Well, for what it's worth I use it on both my 2008 Deepsea and 2014 ExpII without issue.

EDIT: Disregard, sorry. Thought you were asking about 7825, which is what I use, not the 6825.

Yes, 7825 fits perfect

[SemperFi]

Originally Posted by ZOOK

This company has the Bergeon 7825 back in stock.

Thanks for the heads up. I just placed my order.

[Jimcover]

I ordered the 7825 and do not like it. now tips are broken and very expensive for replacements. I like the 6767f much better. costs 20 bucks with 10 dollar replacements.

[SemperFi]

Originally Posted by SemperFi

Thanks for the heads up. I just placed my order.

I couldn’t edit my previous post so I’m quoting myself here.
There seems to be a hitch in the ordering process. I placed the order with the least expensive shipping method at $3.95 and the order went through with no problem and with the emailed invoice indicating $3.95 and shipped via USPS. Ten minutes later I received another invoice showing the shipping cost as $13.95 via UPS.
I called the company and was told that on orders over $100 the shipping method is “upgraded” from USPS to UPS so that it can be tracked. While I was not happy with the explanation there was no recourse. I told the rep that the ordering process should let you know beforehand that the shipping cost is being changed before it allows you to complete the order.
I still would have bought the item but I don’t like being surprised.

[imperio]

Originally Posted by SemperFi

I couldn’t edit my previous post so I’m quoting myself here.

There seems to be a hitch in the ordering process. I placed the order with the least expensive shipping method at $3.95 and the order went through with no problem and with the emailed invoice indicating $3.95 and shipped via USPS. Ten minutes later I received another invoice showing the shipping cost as $13.95 via UPS.

I called the company and was told that on orders over $100 the shipping method is “upgraded” from USPS to UPS so that it can be tracked. While I was not happy with the explanation there was no recourse. I told the rep that the ordering process should let you know beforehand that the shipping cost is being changed before it allows you to complete the order.

I still would have bought the item but I don’t like being surprised.

I agree. That's not right.

[Mad Dog]

Originally Posted by ZOOK

This company has the Bergeon 7825 back in stock.

Thanks for the heads up! I just ordered.

[SemperFi]

Originally Posted by imperio

I agree. That's not right.

I’m considering disputing the charge with the credit card company. The extra $10 is irrelevant. I’m just annoyed at how it was done.
They apparently base their shipping charges on the cost of the item. So theoretically I could purchase an item for $99 that weights 2 pounds and pay ten dollars less that this item which cost $135 and only weighs a few ounces.
Sorry for the rant. I didn’t intend to hijack the thread.

[Watchflair]

Seems like the Bergeon ones are the best out there - for the extra bucks it may be worth it. Anyone use both ? Any notable differences or ?

[justin81]

Originally Posted by SemperFi

I couldn’t edit my previous post so I’m quoting myself here.
There seems to be a hitch in the ordering process. I placed the order with the least expensive shipping method at $3.95 and the order went through with no problem and with the emailed invoice indicating $3.95 and shipped via USPS. Ten minutes later I received another invoice showing the shipping cost as $13.95 via UPS.
I called the company and was told that on orders over $100 the shipping method is “upgraded” from USPS to UPS so that it can be tracked. While I was not happy with the explanation there was no recourse. I told the rep that the ordering process should let you know beforehand that the shipping cost is being changed before it allows you to complete the order.
I still would have bought the item but I don’t like being surprised.

Same thing happened to me

[imperio]

Originally Posted by SemperFi

I’m considering disputing the charge with the credit card company. The extra $10 is irrelevant. I’m just annoyed at how it was done.

They apparently base their shipping charges on the cost of the item. So theoretically I could purchase an item for $99 that weights 2 pounds and pay ten dollars less that this item which cost $135 and only weighs a few ounces.

Sorry for the rant. I didn’t intend to hijack the thread.

I'd dispute it too, but the CC company will probably just credit you the difference without taking it up with the store. I'm not 100% sure what the threshold is but this has been my experience on a recent $5 dispute I raised due to a similar issue.

[DoctorA]

Originally Posted by Jimcover

I ordered the 7825 and do not like it. now tips are broken and very expensive for replacements. I like the 6767f much better. costs 20 bucks with 10 dollar replacements.

It says the 6767f is 1.3mm wide tip..... will fit new Rolex bracelets with 1mm space?

[Rocket_Man]

I like this site for watch tools. They have good prices and they support the independent watchmakers and their access to factory parts that manufacturers like Rolex try to limit.

http://www.ofrei.com/index.html

I bought the 7825 2 years ago and it works well.

http://www.ofrei.com/page252.html

[offrdmania]

Originally Posted by Jimcover

I ordered the 7825 and do not like it. now tips are broken and very expensive for replacements. I like the 6767f much better. costs 20 bucks with 10 dollar replacements.

How did you break the 7825 tips? Did you drop it on the floor?

[offrdmania]

Originally Posted by DoctorA

It says the 6767f is 1.3mm wide tip..... will fit new Rolex bracelets with 1mm space?

Will not