Why is GMT II Pepsi so much more than Batgirl on the secondary market?

[r_afficionado]

One watch "better " than the other exact same watch .... C'mon the term "Better " is applied quite losley. The only difference here folks is the story and coloring and sure if some chose to put some $ value to said story and coloring, well then why not, free market and all. I buy the watch for what it is and both modern iterations of this watch make them both an amazing watch. In all the things that REALLY matter they are super twins. I own both of them and have no plans to sell either. But if the proverbial s, hit the proverbial fan then... I would be a special kind of person NOT to sell what would bring me the most $$ for my item... so all that to say, I would sell my Daytona C White dial instead. JK...

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[drfrankenstein]

Originally Posted by NorthboundRolex

There are 2 variations of the BLNR. The Batgirl looks like the Batman except for the fact the blue on the bezel is of a lighter shade and the bracelet is a jubilee instead of an oyster. So, there's a lot of both models on the market.

There is only 1 Pepsi ceramic variant, hence why the larger premium.

It's obvious.

One BLRO in steel. It was released in white gold when the BLNR was released correct?

[Boaters]

Originally Posted by Mystro

Yup, this crap got out of hand years ago and should have been squashed. It was a Pandora's box we all though would burn out. It was guised as a movement to make the brand look less stuffy and more fun so the newbies didnt have to learn the actual Rolex designations.

There was a lot of push back to the nicknames and most of the hardcore keepers of the crown left the forum because of it. There was more professional talent and inside watchmaking skill that left than this forum would ever see again.

Perfectly said Mystro

[drfrankenstein]

Originally Posted by Driver8

I totally agree with you on this one.

Kermit, Hulk, Smurf, etc... I just find it all very indicative of the "dumbing-down" of the brand that's sadly happened in recent years.

Originally Posted by padi56

The only so called nicknames are acceptable regarding Rolex watches to myself after learning about and wearing the brand Rolex for over 50 years is the ones most used decades ago like pepsi and coke for the inserts.All of today's nicknames IMHO are very childlike, for what was once was a prestigious brand of watches.As today Rolex watches now are little more than $$$£££ object things, and silly nicknames to many.

Sorry to hear that nicknames given to men’s jewelry are too immature for you.

[Macnavara]

Originally Posted by padi56

The only so called nicknames are acceptable regarding Rolex watches to myself after learning about and wearing the brand Rolex for over 50 years is the ones most used decades ago like pepsi and coke for the inserts.All of today's nicknames IMHO are very childlike, for what was once was a prestigious brand of watches.As today Rolex watches now are little more than $$$£££ object things, and silly nicknames to many.

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Originally Posted by Posh Gentleman

if you are a serious watch fan, you would realize very quickly that tiny differences in dial color, bezel, etc can make big difference in secondary price.

ex: AP RO in blue dial vs white.

blnr vs blro price delta isnt that big tho, btw. it is at most 2-3k difference.

for 2k more, id buy the reference i really want. not enough of a big diff for me to cheap out on a cheaper model.

that being said, i own blnr and daytona C in black dial, which also is cheaper than daytona C in white.

Agree with above. I’ve only noticed a 2-3k difference on DavidSW and C24. As previous posts have suggested, the history and shorter run time of the Pepsi likely account for the difference in price.

I always preferred the BLNR, as the colors are more muted and go better with what I usually wear, but I can appreciate both. You can’t go wrong when choosing between these two.


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[mg18]

I was told by my AD that they receive more than twice the amount of BLNRs as they do BLROs

[GST15]

Originally Posted by padi56

The only so called nicknames are acceptable regarding Rolex watches to myself after learning about and wearing the brand Rolex for over 50 years is the ones most used decades ago like pepsi and coke for the inserts.All of today's nicknames IMHO are very childlike, for what was once was a prestigious brand of watches.As today Rolex watches now are little more than $$$£££ object things, and silly nicknames to many.

[sond86]

My guess is if they didn’t make the blro
The blnr would probably be fetching the blro prices today

[G.Montag]

Originally Posted by jkyrolex

Price delta seems to be about 4-5k. Any thoughts?

Perhaps people are reluctant to buy a watch with such a silly name. Is "BLNR on jubilee" really that muchg harder to type than "batgirl"?

[grimps]

Anyone that was on this forum a few years ago would know that people were crying out for the Pepsi to be released again, every year Basel world predictions would have posters speculating that this time it would happen.
It's a classic Rolex with a lot of history , it was always going to be very popular when released

[Jster]

Because the Pepsi is the iconic color combination for the Rolex GMT bezel. Look at the prices for bezel inserts for the previous model 16710. The Pepsi insert is always more expensive than the Coke or all black.

FWIW, I prefer the current Batman over the current Pepsi.

[kizerman]

Originally Posted by Jster

Because the Pepsi is the iconic color combination for the Rolex GMT bezel. Look at the prices for bezel inserts for the previous model 16710. The Pepsi insert is always more expensive than the Coke or all black.

FWIW, I prefer the current Batman over the current Pepsi.

Putting you in the minority, hence the price difference.

I respect your opinion, but just stating a fact.

[Milibrk@]

Just count the 'incoming' threads..how many so called Batgirl vs. so called Pepsi..and there is your answer.

[Santiago32]

I wonder if prices will level out once the BLNR is discontinued.

[scombs263]

I agree. While some ADs get an even amount of Red/Blue vs Black/Blue, I am going to say the vast majority of them get way less Red/Blue GMT.

[sgwatchguy]

Originally Posted by padi56

The only so called nicknames are acceptable regarding Rolex watches to myself after learning about and wearing the brand Rolex for over 50 years is the ones most used decades ago like pepsi and coke for the inserts.All of today's nicknames IMHO are very childlike, for what was once was a prestigious brand of watches.As today Rolex watches now are little more than $$$£££ object things, and silly nicknames to many.

[horseShu]

last time I was in an AD, the staff using these cartoony nicknames made it even more cringe.

i may use them in these forums, but i won't do so in stores or in conversations.
i just feel that it disrespects the brand.

[sgwatchguy]

No one, absolutely no one that I know personally, prefers the BLRO over the BLNR.

IMHO.... It’s the WIS demand which keeps the BLRO prices high. And Insta hype. I don’t about production nos so I couldn’t add that to the mix.

[Manamana]

Originally Posted by sgwatchguy

No one, absolutely no one that I know personally, prefers the BLRO over the BLNR.

IMHO.... It’s the WIS demand which keeps the BLRO prices high. And Insta hype. I don’t about production nos so I couldn’t add that to the mix.

Same here, but they prefer the discontinued BLNR Batman over Pepsi more so than the new jubilee. Price difference is just the combination of more supply of Batgirls than Pepsi, History, and the availability of BLNR for more than 9 years vs 3 years for Pepsi. Rolex will soon introduce the ceramic Coke and discontinue the BLNR, and the same thing will happen to Coke vs Pepsi.

[NorthboundRolex]

Originally Posted by drfrankenstein

One BLRO in steel. It was released in white gold when the BLNR was released correct?

You're right, forgot about the Pepsi GMT that was released in white gold.

Figured the OP was making the comparison within the stainless steel family only.

[Nairn1980]

Originally Posted by Goin2drt

Proof please.

Trust me, Pepsi is produced in less numbers. Red and blue is seemingly harder to produce at the factory with more wastage.

It’s well known that less Pepsi are produced than batgirl/Batman

[Manamana]

Originally Posted by Nairn1980

Trust me, Pepsi is produced in less numbers. Red and blue is seemingly harder to produce at the factory with more wastage.

It’s well known that less Pepsi are produced than batgirl/Batman

Agree with you regarding less Pepsi produced, but the reason has to do with Rolex strategy of producing less of one reference in each hot model in their range more than the difficulty in producing Red and Blue. Hulk vs Black Sub, Blue SD vs other colors, BLNR Oyster GMT vs Black GMT, even green dial gold Daytona vs other colors, etc. This strategy is only for the supposed hot models only.

[Sandpit]

People obviously prefer pink and purple over blue and black

[Manamana]

Originally Posted by Sandpit

People obviously prefer pink and purple over blue and black

Pink and purple and several shades between, what mark no are we at for Pepsi right now.

[Ihatecheese]

When you're paying more $ because you like a certain colour bezel, then there can never be another debate with your partner on why they need another pair of shoes, because they're fabulous and have a different colour buckle!

The Batgirl is a lovely piece of men or womens jewelry but some find the pepsi more beautiful.

[thefollandgnat]

Originally Posted by upsidedownbelt

Keepers of the crown?

It's Baby Names 1 vs Baby Names 2!

[thefollandgnat]

Originally Posted by jkyrolex

Why is GMT II Pepsi so much more than Batgirl on the secondary market? Price delta seems to be about 4-5k. Any thoughts?

Subliminal impulses drive desire. Check sales figures for the flag of the USA vs the flag of Estonia. It's no secret that the USA ("our great nation") is the most patriotic country outside of N. Korea, Kazakhstan, etc.

[SS Oyster]

Pricing is all about supply and demand.

[fskywalker]

Originally Posted by padi56

The only so called nicknames are acceptable regarding Rolex watches to myself after learning about and wearing the brand Rolex for over 50 years is the ones most used decades ago like pepsi and coke for the inserts.All of today's nicknames IMHO are very childlike, for what was once was a prestigious brand of watches.As today Rolex watches now are little more than $$$£££ object things, and silly nicknames to many.

This!

Regardless of nicknames both are beautiful and impossible to get at MSRP (at least for me)




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