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Old 15 March 2021, 12:40 PM   #61
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I’m not a huge fan too, especially when people use reference numbers for much older watches (1008, anyone?) or when people say “incoming” and then give only the serial # instead of the name of the watch (e.g. Sub), but for purposes of this forum and for being technically accurate the serial numbers are relevant. My husband went out of his way to get a 16710, not just any pre-ceramic bezel GMT. I also know that a 1675 is way out of our price range! The serial number also helps with dating and valuing the watch.

That being said, I have no idea what the serial number is of my mother in law’s ladies’ President. It is the classic yellow gold/fluted bezel, with a champagne dial, and given as a gift by my father in law in 1979. She didn’t save the box and papers, and I’m not about to take off the bracelet to find out the serial number. So, I have no serial # for reference. I also refer to all of our watches by their model names, not serial numbers, in daily conversation.
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Old 15 March 2021, 12:59 PM   #62
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I hate that Rolex doesn’t differentiate dial colors in their reference numbers... if someone writes 216750 or 116500 they have to write the white or black dial! Come on, Rolex, adjust a digit for dial color!
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Old 15 March 2021, 02:59 PM   #63
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It’s like speaking a language. References like acronyms are efficient, but are not inclusive for the less familiar. I am still very much learning the language... it’s overwhelming but fun IMHO.


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Old 15 March 2021, 05:10 PM   #64
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I hate that Rolex doesn’t differentiate dial colors in their reference numbers... if someone writes 216750 or 116500 they have to write the white or black dial! Come on, Rolex, adjust a digit for dial color!
This could be an improvement actually.
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Old 15 March 2021, 05:13 PM   #65
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Does anybody else hate it when......

People only use reference codes, for example

I have a 2017 yahchtmaster rose gold and chocolate, SS sub date 2018, TT yellow gold blue sub 2018, YG sub 2019, TT Daytona YG black diamond face 2021,and a WG grey dial Daytona oyster flex 2021

And I have not got a clue what any of the reference numbers are
Yeah I still have no idea and I've been buying Rolex for years .
It's a pain when I have to google the reference to discover what people are talking about
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Old 15 March 2021, 05:17 PM   #66
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Does anybody else hate it when......

People only use reference codes, for example

I have a 2017 yahchtmaster rose gold and chocolate, SS sub date 2018, TT yellow gold blue sub 2018, YG sub 2019, TT Daytona YG black diamond face 2021,and a WG grey dial Daytona oyster flex 2021

And I have not got a clue what any of the reference numbers are
If you are buying it's easier to search using reference numbers than by long drawn out names. Generally speaking I know the reference numbers for all the Rolex I've owned and am interested in (because I've researched them). There's one I could never quite remember and that was the Sky Dweller. I'm not an overly experienced WIS but still fell relatively new to the whole business in comparison to many on this forum. I do like expediency and learning the numbers through familiarity helps with that. I certainly haven't tried to memorize them. On the other hand in a pinch I'll look up newer models on the Rolex web site.
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Old 15 March 2021, 05:22 PM   #67
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I don't take note of the model numbers with this hobby. If I don't know what it is I just move on. No hate on forums. I just don't care enough !��
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Old 15 March 2021, 10:45 PM   #68
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I use both. I only remember the ref numbers of the watches I like.
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Old 15 March 2021, 11:40 PM   #69
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Does anybody else hate it when......

People only use reference codes, for example
No

I prefer the manufacturer codes for their products
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Old 16 March 2021, 03:49 AM   #70
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The codes actually mean something.

Last digit:
0 - ss
22 - rolesor Like in ym.
3 - 2tone yg
5 - rose gold
8 - yellow gold
9 - white gold
6 - platinum


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22 = rolesium
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Old 16 March 2021, 05:02 AM   #71
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There was a time when this board used ref numbers instead of cartoon nicknames. The good old days.
I'm still waiting for my Elmer Fudd Daytona
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Old 16 March 2021, 07:19 AM   #72
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Doesn’t bother to me at all. It’s a much quicker way to be specific. You can say:

“stainless steel Submariner with no date two generations prior to the current model”

or you can say

“14060.”

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Old 16 March 2021, 09:07 AM   #73
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What’s in a name?...

Use whatever means to communicate clearly.

Spend enough time time here and u will learn few ref numbers whether u like it or not. Lol
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Old 16 March 2021, 09:10 AM   #74
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Does anybody else hate it when......

People only use reference codes, for example

I have a 2017 yahchtmaster rose gold and chocolate, SS sub date 2018, TT yellow gold blue sub 2018, YG sub 2019, TT Daytona YG black diamond face 2021,and a WG grey dial Daytona oyster flex 2021

And I have not got a clue what any of the reference numbers are
you can use both types of reference name nickname or reference code
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Old 16 March 2021, 09:16 AM   #75
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I have never liked it, and thought it a bit obnoxious when I first came on the forum, as the Rolex forum seems to be the only one that does it.

I now try to use a description and a ref number when on this forum to fit in.
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Old 16 March 2021, 09:23 AM   #76
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My $.02.

I am a lucky fellow. I’m only into vintage, and so will never have to remember more than five digits, except for 168000.

It used to bother me, and I think I even posted about it. Someone said “stick around for a while”, and that was good advice.

Modern Omega reference numbers are useless as shorthand. Too bad.
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Old 16 March 2021, 09:23 AM   #77
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+1 hate for nicknames.
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Old 16 March 2021, 09:38 AM   #78
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Does anybody else hate it when......

People only use reference codes, for example

I have a 2017 yahchtmaster rose gold and chocolate, SS sub date 2018, TT yellow gold blue sub 2018, YG sub 2019, TT Daytona YG black diamond face 2021,and a WG grey dial Daytona oyster flex 2021

And I have not got a clue what any of the reference numbers are
Anything is better than corny nicknames

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Old 16 March 2021, 09:42 AM   #79
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i like both.

Same


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Old 16 March 2021, 09:55 AM   #80
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I look at it as numbers on a uniform for teams like the Yankees and Red Sox that don’t put names.


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Old 16 March 2021, 10:13 AM   #81
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Anything is better than corny nicknames


Reference numbers all the way for me.
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Old 16 March 2021, 10:45 AM   #82
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Yeah. Unpopular opinion but it annoys me when i’m unfamiliar with the ref number and i have to look it up. Waste of my time. I prefer nicknames or model + color/metal bc I know exactly what it is.
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Old 16 March 2021, 10:55 AM   #83
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What other way to "reference" a particular watch than it's reference number?
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Old 16 March 2021, 03:14 PM   #84
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To the OP's question, yes.
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Old 4 August 2023, 01:56 AM   #85
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I kind of see your point, but the reason people do it is because it differentiates different models within the same line, like an AK 5500 vs. 14000
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Old 4 August 2023, 02:44 AM   #86
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LOL , how about PAM ?
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Old 4 August 2023, 03:00 AM   #87
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I actually prefer reference numbers, unless it’s a very obscure model.

I actually get more annoyed when people use the year as if it’s a car model.


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Old 4 August 2023, 08:21 AM   #88
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Reference numbers are precise, especially if you add other parts, like m116518ln-0047 is a last gen oyster flex YG Daytona with Paul Newman dial.


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Old 4 August 2023, 08:37 AM   #89
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Its what your used to. I learned a lot of the Patek numbers quickly but they are just four numbers.
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Old 4 August 2023, 08:54 AM   #90
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I don't stress myself in remembering reference numbers, most times I just call them their cartoon names which I think is easier to remember.
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