Vacheron Perceptions?

[Incroyable12]

Pateks are also for the most part very dressy and yet they're hyped beyond belief.

You see guys in t-shirts and shorts wearing gold Patek complications on leather straps.

[raclaims]

Originally Posted by Giangos

Need some more convincing, just search for any thread started by raclaims

LOL...I'm pretty sure I have some I forgot to make threads about too!! I should go back and look. I may have a few nice ones incoming too

[Reign]

VCO is just benefiting from spillover demand from AP and Patek.

One year ago, as a first time buyer, I was being sold the skeleton QP and blue tourbillon.

I was seriously toying with the skeleton QP overseas because my AP ceramic skeleton QP allocation was uncertain but I just could not wrap my head around the bracelet which AP smokes them on. The movement finishing is very nice though and from raclaims IG their service seems top notch too.




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[raclaims]

Vacheron service is def top notch and the skelly overseas QP is awesome...add to that their changing strap system and it's just so versatile...you can even go to Jean Rousseau and have custom straps made and add the hardware for the overseas connections so straps are limitless.

Don't get me wrong the AP QP is amazing too...the VC is stellar and shouldn't be seen as second tier to the AP by any means

[texasmade]

Originally Posted by raclaims

Vacheron service is def top notch

Given your VC collection, their service had better be top notch for you. Anything less would be unacceptable.

[HMHM]

Even as a new customer, VC boutiques have good service. Friendly and knowledgeable. So it’s not just VIP customers that get red carpet treatment. For that I have enormous respect for the VC customer service experience. Though VCO is difficult to get these days, they still take time to explain why it isn’t possible, as opposed to the Patek Salon which can get quite arrogant whenever Aquanaut/Nautilus are mentioned.

[raclaims]

Originally Posted by texasmade

Given your VC collection, their service had better be top notch for you. Anything less would be unacceptable.

Agreed...but I didn't start off with a collection...and the service was top of the heap from day one. Truly exceptional

[AlexFzh]

Just got a VC overseas. Would not have gotten an AP or patek sports watch even if they are not so hyped up. At current market conditions, yes of course if you can get a RO or nautilus at msrp it’s basically free money. But if you ask if I like those watches as much as an overseas, I would say no. Personally I’m not a fan of how showy genta designs tend to me, I like my watch being understated and kind of stealth luxury only me or close friends appreciate. That said, would love a patek annual/perpetual calendar if budget allows.

[APWhale]

Originally Posted by Reign

VCO is just benefiting from spillover demand from AP and Patek.

One year ago, as a first time buyer, I was being sold the skeleton QP and blue tourbillon.

I was seriously toying with the skeleton QP overseas because my AP ceramic skeleton QP allocation was uncertain but I just could not wrap my head around the bracelet which AP smokes them on. The movement finishing is very nice though and from raclaims IG their service seems top notch too.




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I agree. Last year I was being offered a steel blue dial QP Overseas with one boutique visit and no purchase history.

[HMHM]

Originally Posted by APWhale

I agree. Last year I was being offered a steel blue dial QP Overseas with one boutique visit and no purchase history.

was there a steel QP overseas?

[Guybrush]

Originally Posted by Incroyable12

Pateks are also for the most part very dressy and yet they're hyped beyond belief.

You see guys in t-shirts and shorts wearing gold Patek complications on leather straps.

Right, but I guess what I’m saying is that Patek dress watches are hyped because of the brand’s affiliation with the (super)hyped stainless pieces. (I don’t think this was the vision Patek had for itself, but it’s the reality of how the brand is perceived.) It used to be that Patek was the dress watch brand and maybe you’d grab one of those discounted oddball Nautiluses when you went to collect your Calatrava; now Instaboyz are rocking Calatravas with shorts because “it’s a Patek, brah.”

VC isn’t garnering that kind of overflow hype from the Overseas—maybe I’m naive for believing they don’t care. They do what they do, and I suspect they sell as many watches as they need to in order to continue doing so. Their core is haute dress pieces, and those don’t generate hype in and of themselves.

But for those of us who appreciate them, it’s hard to do better than a VC. I considered a Calatrava when I got my Traditionelle, but once I saw them both in the metal, it wasn’t even close: the VC is a much more interesting watch at that price point. If I’m being honest, there’s nothing in the Patek catalogue that interests me enough to spend the money.

[ILoveFerrari]

Originally Posted by Guybrush

Right, but I guess what I’m saying is that Patek dress watches are hyped because of the brand’s affiliation with the (super)hyped stainless pieces. (I don’t think this was the vision Patek had for itself, but it’s the reality of how the brand is perceived.) It used to be that Patek was the dress watch brand and maybe you’d grab one of those discounted oddball Nautiluses when you went to collect your Calatrava; now Instaboyz are rocking Calatravas with shorts because “it’s a Patek, brah.”



VC isn’t garnering that kind of overflow hype from the Overseas—maybe I’m naive for believing they don’t care. They do what they do, and I suspect they sell as many watches as they need to in order to continue doing so. Their core is haute dress pieces, and those don’t generate hype in and of themselves.



But for those of us who appreciate them, it’s hard to do better than a VC. I considered a Calatrava when I got my Traditionelle, but once I saw them both in the metal, it wasn’t even close: the VC is a much more interesting watch at that price point. If I’m being honest, there’s nothing in the Patek catalogue that interests me enough to spend the money.

I completely agree. Another thing that turns me off against is the AD system of Patek...oh my god... I personally have no problem with Richemont, in fact, receiving random gifts from them in mails actually are cool. One time they found out where we stayed for my wife's birthday. When we opened the door, the whole birthday gifts and flower bouquets were sitting on the table. Talk about surprise gift. Turned out they bribed my son for the info. Lol.

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[gliazzurri]

Originally Posted by Guybrush

now Instaboyz are rocking Calatravas with shorts because “it’s a Patek, brah.”

Such a great point. Makes me cringe in some way. What can you do….

[Incroyable12]

Interestingly enough Vacheron used to be AP's Middle East distributor during the '70s.

As for Patek I feel like they've have always had an unusually devoted following even prior to the Nautilus explosion. I've been into watches for over 20 years and in that timeframe no other brand has commanded attention like Patek or Rolex. In fact, even back then Vacheron was kind of seen as the "underdog".

I wonder if the Holy Trinity were perceived equally during the '50s-'70s or if the Patek phenomenon is relatively recent.

[APWhale]

Originally Posted by HMHM

was there a steel QP overseas?

Sorry, must have been tired when I wrote that. Meant white gold.

[raclaims]

I have the skeleton QP in white gold...so yes