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Old 29 September 2022, 09:07 PM   #61
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Seeing 12 Subs makes me think the Sub is popular.
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Old 29 September 2022, 09:19 PM   #62
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My Subs are neither boring nor perfect.
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Old 29 September 2022, 09:25 PM   #63
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It’s so boring? Yet when you have one on the wrist you can’t stop looking at it. It’s a true piece of art. Simple and perfect in my opinion. Same as a Porsche 911.

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Old 29 September 2022, 09:33 PM   #64
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Si. Another way to see a Tom Hanks performance: boringly perfect.
I assume you haven't seen Tom Hanks' 90's run?
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Old 29 September 2022, 09:37 PM   #65
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Very common I noticed the same. There is nothing exclusive about the sub.
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Old 29 September 2022, 09:39 PM   #66
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Old 29 September 2022, 09:44 PM   #67
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Boring is a strong word. The black Sub is a fantastic watch, but it's just that it never felt that special to me personally when I was in the market for a diver.

So, I went for other pieces like the YM, SD43 and TT blue Sub instead. Now I feel like I'm not 100% against the idea of adding a ND, but I'm just missing that wow factor, if that makes sense.
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Old 29 September 2022, 09:55 PM   #68
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It is an essential watch for ANY collection. As close to the perfect watch as you can get when you combine history, beauty, function, and collectibility.

It is the flagship of the Rolex brand, like it or not.
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Old 29 September 2022, 10:37 PM   #69
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it's perfect (beautiful, iconic, versatile, ...)
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Old 29 September 2022, 10:39 PM   #70
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It depends on what really excites you in a time piece, bored? i don't think so
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Old 29 September 2022, 10:41 PM   #71
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I think im on the fence.. I bought a seiko SLA043J1 not long ago and if i compare it now to my sub i say - i like the seiko more.. The sub is more boring but it it maybe just a ''phase''
Sometimes i want to sell the sub as i don't like te people that wear one, and subs are absolutely everywhere in my city........
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Old 29 September 2022, 10:57 PM   #72
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Would you take a Daytona for your Sub? 1:1 trade

Never but never say never unless it really means something special and it is related with an event, person, etc --> but even then everything has a "price"

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No....never ever...the first time i look to see what the date is and see nothing...i be pissed....and then i be wishing were is my Subdate..ahhhhhh...
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Old 29 September 2022, 11:11 PM   #73
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It is an essential watch for ANY collection. As close to the perfect watch as you can get when you combine history, beauty, function, and collectibility.

It is the flagship of the Rolex brand, like it or not.

Uhhh, no, it’s not “essential for ANY collection.” I’ve been collecting for nearly 20 years, focused exclusively on tool watches, especially divers. I really can’t think of a watch I want less than a black sub.

To me, the sub has become too commonplace, too copied, too “status” oriented. It’s a fashion watch at this point. No? Rolex has not one, but two, technically superior divers in the lineup. They’ve had one superior diver in the lineup for 50 years.

Design wise, it’s overly glossy and bloated. History wise, yes, it’s an icon, but what history is there really? First diver, no. First “modern” diver, no. Technical firsts in the watch, not really other than the triplock. In fact, from a historical perspective it’s biggest claim to fame is James Bond. Yuk.

I’m being overly harsh, but the notion that the Sub is the be all, end all of divers is absurd. Great and iconic, yes. Perfect or a “must,” nope.

Sea Dweller 43…better tool watch history, better case lines, better bracelet, better dial, better technically. Also less ubiquitous. Way less likely to find your newly promoted coworker sitting next to you with it on her wrist.


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Old 29 September 2022, 11:46 PM   #74
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All goes back to perspective - ever since college years I've longed for one; the connection back to 007, the classy color combo of stainless steel/black, its recognizability, the history as a tool watch, etc.

To me, it seems like the perfect one watch to have. However, to those more veteran to watches, I'm sure it lost its magic long time ago and now they're onto something else. It's like those who have/had the AP, Patek, Daytonas, etc. They move onto vintage watches or more niche products.
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Old 29 September 2022, 11:56 PM   #75
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It's so popular that nobody wants it anymore.

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Old 29 September 2022, 11:57 PM   #76
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Boring and Perfect is the best way to describe it
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Old 30 September 2022, 12:22 AM   #77
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Yes. To me, my 14060M is plain, simple, little bit fancy!
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Old 30 September 2022, 01:24 AM   #78
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It’s a completely awesome watch with undeniably respectable history. But it doesn’t excite me, and if you’re judging a watch by how commonplace it is, I think you’d have to say it’s rather boring. I’ve owned a few and would buy another if I were a “collector,” but as a one-watch guy, I don’t think a Sub could do it for me. I’ve tried and I always grow tired of it.

It’s sort of the Tom Hanks of watches. More than adequate, less than amazing; justifiably acclaimed, but rather ubiquitous, and so even though it’s a “classic” and “essential,” it doesn’t work as the end-in-itself.

My opinion, anyway. The watch certainly has its share of devotees who will disagree.
Well said, I agree. That's why the Sub I did get is green!
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Old 30 September 2022, 02:36 AM   #79
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uhhh, no, it’s not “essential for any collection.” i’ve been collecting for nearly 20 years, focused exclusively on tool watches, especially divers. I really can’t think of a watch i want less than a black sub.

To me, the sub has become too commonplace, too copied, too “status” oriented. It’s a fashion watch at this point. No? Rolex has not one, but two, technically superior divers in the lineup. They’ve had one superior diver in the lineup for 50 years.

Design wise, it’s overly glossy and bloated. History wise, yes, it’s an icon, but what history is there really? First diver, no. First “modern” diver, no. Technical firsts in the watch, not really other than the triplock. In fact, from a historical perspective it’s biggest claim to fame is james bond. Yuk.

I’m being overly harsh, but the notion that the sub is the be all, end all of divers is absurd. Great and iconic, yes. Perfect or a “must,” nope.

Sea dweller 43…better tool watch history, better case lines, better bracelet, better dial, better technically. Also less ubiquitous. Way less likely to find your newly promoted coworker sitting next to you with it on her wrist.
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Old 30 September 2022, 03:12 AM   #80
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boring?....funny how one person calls the sub that and everyone has to make comments Funny thing, you see more of them everywhere and everyone talks about the sub more than any other Rolex because it the the Best of the Best! Sub owners (Well me!) dont have to brag, others do that for us whether it's negative or positive, When people say Rolex they think Submariner date or not. Its the other Rolexes that are not the Sub that have to show off, brag and complain about the sub.
but please go ahead and comment on the most classic Rolex of them all and wanted by all.
and those that say they are everywhere...yeah...everyone wants one!!
So the guy thats bored...you must be bored with all the corvettes, Lamborghinis, iPhones, they are all the same.....seems to me, maybe your the boring party...unless you own a Sub...then your not!
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Old 30 September 2022, 03:20 AM   #81
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IMHO, it is easy to confuse "boring" and "in good taste"!
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Old 30 September 2022, 04:00 AM   #82
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I'm leaning towards the "perfect" side of the spectrum.

I appreciate watches from the low end to the highest end, both classic and outlandish, and the more I have, the more I find myself being drawn to the sub - it's simplicity, design, no-fuss neutrality. Just put it on and go about your day feeling good about what's on your wrist.

To me it's an undeniable example of something so special, no matter how common.
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Old 30 September 2022, 04:08 AM   #83
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Sometimes i want to sell the sub as i don't like te people that wear one, and subs are absolutely everywhere in my city........
Everywhere? Where do you live? Monaco?
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Old 30 September 2022, 04:09 AM   #84
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3 pages and hardly any pics?







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Old 30 September 2022, 04:27 AM   #85
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Boring - Don’t think so.

Iconic / Perfection in my opinion.


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Old 30 September 2022, 04:29 AM   #86
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Old 30 September 2022, 04:40 AM   #87
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Submariner, is the watch.
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Old 30 September 2022, 04:46 AM   #88
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Old 30 September 2022, 05:03 AM   #89
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It is interesting that you ask this question.

For some reason I have never liked the Sub. For me, yes, it is one of the most boring, uninteresting wristwatches I have ever seen. Black and silver like countless others. The speedy "moonwatch" is in the same category.

There are SO many other options available. Besides "history," why choose these two?
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Old 30 September 2022, 05:12 AM   #90
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I think I am right in saying the most influential mens fashion designer ever, Massimo Osti, had two Sea-Dwellers but no Submariners in his collection. I don’t know if that was a conscious style choice or if it was just the way it worked out.
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