Trade submariner for speedmaster 321

[Tricolore66]

Ed White 321 all day long over a Sub. I love Subs for the tool watch workhorse they are, and own a handful of 4,5, and 6 digit examples, but unless the Sub was a rare reference it’s just a watch. They’re referred to as the Texas Timex for a reason, I see them a handful of times a day.

[Djoker48]

A simple rule: No matter how iconic the watch is, if you’re not wearing it, it has to go. In this, you’re trading an easy to replace watch (Sub) for a hard to replace watch (Ed White) that is arguably Omega’s flagship. Do it.

[subtona]

Nope

[B2 Stealth]

Not a remote chance I would do the trade.

[tommm]

Originally Posted by Gearjockey

Having time to digest the thread after a long flight back from EU.
That EW 321 is a reference.

It sounds to me like you really like the Speedmaster line and You’re not really interested in dive watches, so I understand the trade.

For those who think that the submariner is boring, I don’t get that part.
What’s an “exciting” watch?

Put any watch on your wrist for an extended period of time and it’s going to get boring. That’s why we have several in our collection.

I said I find it boring. I love the old ones, the 1680 basically, but I owned a 114060 and really didnt like it one bit, had it a couple of years and sold it. It just seemed so obvious and un-interesting. The watch people who knew nothing about watches wore just to say they had a Rolex. I was almost embarrassed to wear it.

At the time I didnt know much myself and got it because I came into some money and wanted an all-steel watch and it was the de-facto watch to get.

For me the super case Sub, even more so at 41mm... they're the watch for people who dont know watches. This is gonna be very controversial!

[Roddypeepa]

It’s funny the speedie is a great watch but I reckon I could literally count on the fingers of one hand the number of people I’ve ever seen actually wearing one.

Ditto the sub is a great watch but they’re hardly hanging off every other bloke’s wrist the way some go on about them on here. At least not in my neck of the woods, perhaps east coast and west coast USA but I doubt it.


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[gamingdoctor]

321 is nice but overrated. Make sure you try it on your wrist before committing.

[Lesnerelli23]

Originally Posted by tommm

I said I find it boring. I love the old ones, the 1680 basically, but I owned a 114060 and really didnt like it one bit, had it a couple of years and sold it. It just seemed so obvious and un-interesting. The watch people who knew nothing about watches wore just to say they had a Rolex. I was almost embarrassed to wear it.

At the time I didnt know much myself and got it because I came into some money and wanted an all-steel watch and it was the de-facto watch to get.

For me the super case Sub, even more so at 41mm... they're the watch for people who dont know watches. This is gonna be very controversial!

I love many of the early Subs. But for me, if it doesn’t have a maxi dial like the glossy dial 16800 and all of the 16610/14060, I don’t like it.

That said, I am a guy who knows watches and I love my 116610. I certainly did not buy it for the reasons you’ve listed. I started obsessing over that particular model when it was first released. At that time I did not know much about the differences in Sub models, I just knew that one always drew my eye when internet window shopping. Completely based on aesthetics! I didn’t even know at the time it was the “new model” I just liked it better.

Also at that time, I didn’t know the Sub was a popular model. I always thought the datejust or day date were the definitive Rolex. When Biggie said “throw your Rollies in the sky” I never saw a sport watch lol!

I do like the red sub a lot as well but I know I’d destroy an acrylic crystal in short time!

Personally, I love my 116610 because it defies the look of the infinite amount of 16610 and 1680 “homages”! The proportions of that design era were off the map and one of the biggest jumps Rolex ever made in a single update. So while I do agree that many people who “just wanted a Rolex” who were was also buying during the huge bubble did buy the 11 series sub/sub date, you can’t generalize. I don’t want you to have that opinion of me if you happen to see a pic I posted with my sub. It’s my absolute favorite watch and I’m still over the moon when I put it on. It could say any brand on it and I’d still like it better than a 5 digit sub.

Lastly it’s not a “presence” thing either because I also have a 36mm Explorer (my 2nd fav) and I had a 1956 34mm OP which I let go because it needed more service than it was worth unfortunately…


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[Bozzie1982]

Originally Posted by Tricolore66

Ed White 321 all day long over a Sub. I love Subs for the tool watch workhorse they are, and own a handful of 4,5, and 6 digit examples, but unless the Sub was a rare reference it’s just a watch. They’re referred to as the Texas Timex for a reason, I see them a handful of times a day.

I don't understand this tske..... You see them all the time, ever wonder why?? Does that not tell you something in itself?

Also, you buy watches dependent on how popular they are? You don't like others having the same watch? Strange take imo.

[BINGQILIN]

[samson66]

Originally Posted by Ali1009

Thanks for everyone's feedback. I have a 116500ln black daytona, the latest snoopy, the speedmaster apollo 11 50th anniversary, the submariner I'm thinking of trading, a DJ 41 wimbeldon and a tag carrera. The reason I'm looking to offload the submariner is because it gets the least amount of wrist time. The last time I wore it was probably a year ago. I've always liked the 321 especially the case back, such a stunning movement.

To me I would prefer to keep the Sub since you already have two different versions of the Speedmaster. I'm just not a fan of multiples of the same watch even if there are differences between them.

[brandrea]

If you must sell something to fund the 321, I’d sell the Snoopy.

I owned both (very briefly) and the 321 is still with me

[Easy E]

Originally Posted by Tricolore66

Ed White 321 all day long over a Sub. I love Subs for the tool watch workhorse they are, and own a handful of 4,5, and 6 digit examples, but unless the Sub was a rare reference it’s just a watch. They’re referred to as the Texas Timex for a reason, I see them a handful of times a day.

I've always been under the impression that a Texas Timex is a Day Date

[Bozzie1982]

Originally Posted by Easy E

I've always been under the impression that a Texas Timex is a Day Date

You're right.......

[dba]

Not when you have to add $5500.

[bluestreak]

Originally Posted by Bozzie1982

I don't understand this tske..... You see them all the time, ever wonder why?? Does that not tell you something in itself?

Also, you buy watches dependent on how popular they are? You don't like others having the same watch? Strange take imo.

I personally have tried to make my collection consist of watches I am very unlikely to see on someone else’s wrist. If you want to wear the same thing everyone else does, more power to you. But it certainly isn’t “strange” if someone doesn’t feel that way. Different strokes and all.

[Bozzie1982]

Originally Posted by bluestreak

I personally have tried to make my collection consist of watches I am very unlikely to see on someone else’s wrist. If you want to wear the same thing everyone else does, more power to you. But it certainly isn’t “strange” if someone doesn’t feel that way. Different strokes and all.

I guess so, I just wear watches I like. Don't really care who else has them!

[shaunylw]

It’s not for me, i wouldn’t do it if someone traded straight across. But the 321 isn’t something i could wear everyday, and i don’t like the bracelet.


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[domi1]

no need 321, new moon haselite is perfect for half price and keep sub mate!

[bluestreak]

Originally Posted by Bozzie1982

I guess so, I just wear watches I like. Don't really care who else has them!

I wear watches I like too. But my definition of what I “like” includes something being relatively uncommon.


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[jeffgo888]

I bought , and then sold , 2 hesalite speedys
The process of manually having to wind it every time became tedious

And no; I would never trade a Rolex for an Omega


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[Calatrava r]

Originally Posted by Roddypeepa

It’s funny the speedie is a great watch but I reckon I could literally count on the fingers of one hand the number of people I’ve ever seen actually wearing one.

Ditto the sub is a great watch but they’re hardly hanging off every other bloke’s wrist the way some go on about them on here. At least not in my neck of the woods, perhaps east coast and west coast USA but I doubt it.


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I've only seen one on a wrist in my entire life.

[salnuaimi]

Yes

[7enderbender]

Not a huge fan of either. The Speedmaster is my all time favorite watch, but the 321 is a bit off to me. They had the right idea with reissuing the 321 movement. But the watch itself isn’t my cup of tea (I was offered one when they came out as I had been on the list but I turned it down). I would sell the 6 digit Rolex, buy a 5 digit and a Speedmaster 821 or 1861 and be happy.

My two most worn watches are a 1861 and a Sea Dweller 16600.

[7enderbender]

Originally Posted by jeffgo888

I bought , and then sold , 2 hesalite speedys
The process of manually having to wind it every time became tedious

And no; I would never trade a Rolex for an Omega


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Winding the Speedy in the morning while enjoying my coffee with my wife is one of my favorite parts of the day.

[nyc2la]

[georgew]

Regardless if you are a "true" watch person ("they're the watch for people who dont know watches.") - I'd suggest to anyone that you buy what you like and want to wear. I could give a rats a$$ what anyone else thinks - as I wear watches that please me and fit my active lifestyle. 80% of the time it is one of the subs I own (lately the 12 series), or the GMT, or one of the daytonas. So, you do what please you would be my suggestion

[WatchTimes]

I love the 321 and keep watching them as prices have been coming down.
If you don't love the sub move it.
Im not sure on the $ though
You may be better off just selling your sub and getting a 321

[PenDelicate]

Originally Posted by Tricolore66

Ed White 321 all day long over a Sub. I love Subs for the tool watch workhorse they are, and own a handful of 4,5, and 6 digit examples, but unless the Sub was a rare reference it’s just a watch. They’re referred to as the Texas Timex for a reason, I see them a handful of times a day.

On Stockholm's main pedestrian street, I see a Rolex (any model) maybe once every two months. 30% go bare-wristed, 30% wear smart watches, 30% fashion watch.

[brandrea]

Originally Posted by 7enderbender

Winding the Speedy in the morning while enjoying my coffee with my wife is one of my favorite parts of the day.

Have to agree