General thoughts on this watch.

[KatGirl]

Originally Posted by 123Blueface

Respectfully, continue in denial.
You posted a photo on a Rolex group and are upset about comments.
Ask yourself why it was moved to “watch out”.

If Rolex did not install the diamonds, and from the pics posted, it’s different when compared to the pic of the genuine one, then it’s not an original Rolex, though it’s possible that parts of it MAY be. Therefore, it’s either a frankenwatch, or an outright fake. What you should tell your son is to have it thoroughly checked out by an expert. If she paid about $100,000 for a watch that should have cost $475,000, that alone is a huge red flag. Folks here are trying to be helpful, and no one is disparaging your son or his girlfriend. Rather we are urging you to have them get the watch checked out, so she can return it, for a refund. That’s a lot of money for anyone to lose. Good,luck to all of you.

Kat


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[77T]

It's been iced, a wave dial added, and a GMT was the donor reference.

It's mod'd and def a bust down.

We have a big tent at TRF let's not impugn a fellow member who has given some of us an opportunity to learn how Rolex is morphing on the street.

Bust down watches:
A bust down watch is modern terminology for something that’s been around for quite some time. In simple terms, bust down watches are basically timepieces that are covered in diamonds from top to bottom. Bust down watches are also referred to as “iced out” or “fully flooded.”

Bust down watches come from many luxury brands but are actually not produced by the brand itself. The term “bust down” literally means that a timepiece has been taken apart to its bare bones in order to encrust diamonds and/or gemstones onto its different parts, mostly including the bracelet, case, dial, and bezel among others.

Hope that helps... :cheees:


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[123Blueface]

Originally Posted by 77T

It's been iced, a wave dial added, and a GMT was the donor reference.

It's mod'd and def a bust down.

We have a big tent at TRF let's not impugn a fellow member who has given some of us an opportunity to learn how Rolex is morphing on the street.

Bust down watches:
A bust down watch is modern terminology for something that’s been around for quite some time. In simple terms, bust down watches are basically timepieces that are covered in diamonds from top to bottom. Bust down watches are also referred to as “iced out” or “fully flooded.”

Bust down watches come from many luxury brands but are actually not produced by the brand itself. The term “bust down” literally means that a timepiece has been taken apart to its bare bones in order to encrust diamonds and/or gemstones onto its different parts, mostly including the bracelet, case, dial, and bezel among others.

Hope that helps... :cheees:


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Isn’t a watch that has things added that don’t belong to the watch, to make it look like another watch, a Franken?
Call it iced, or bust down, or whatever but it is still not authentic if inference is that it is genuine from Rolex.
Some of us tried to be helpful and illustrate how this watch could not be “verified authentic” as OP posted.
Provided evidence of what authentic one looks like.
Highlighted differences, all in an effort to assist if having been misled by a vendor.
In the end, all I got was a pithy response about not losing sleep over what I think.

[77T]

So I guess you also learned a new synonym? I sure did

Not sure if Franken is the perfect term. The watch isn't posing as anything by putting genuine parts from another model. I've seen Jocke do masterful work here and get rave reviews for his mods.

In this situation none of us have Superman's x-ray vision - we don't know if there is a 3075 inside or the bracelet clasp code matches the serial number range. I believe everyone expressed themselves without profanity - but some took offense to the give and take.

I think OP could have anticipated comments might be all over the place and not feel disrespected.

Either way, looks like a busted down GMT to me - major mods all around.


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[digitalcrocodile]

A prop from the series "Narcos" possibly?????

[CTech]

It's an interesting discussion about an area few of us know much about, but I think the watch is a genuine GMT-Master II that has been highly modified like this one:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/204417360939

There are a few shops in the malls around here (Los Angeles) that sell these type of modified watches and it always surprises me how (relatively) cheap they are when you consider the amount of work/time and materials that has gone into them.

It's not for me, but I think it would be wrong for us to denigrate other people's tastes or choices.

[cht]

Why would you take blurry pictures of $$100,000k modified Rolex?

Why would you take blurry pics of a fake Rolex? To try and hide the fact it’s fake.

Typical fake watch tactics.

The end link fitment is so bad that I can still tell it’s fake with this blurry or pictures.

They make a fake version of this model.

Just google replica 116769TBR.


You’re trying to convince us someone and yourself someone took a gen 116710 and somehow found black gmt style hands and put a diamond wave “style” dial and gen diamonds all over it to look like a real 116769TBR?

I think you know the answer to this.

If not, then you should recommend she return it for a full refund purchase a genuine Rolex watch from a authorized dealer.

[GGGMT]

Though it is Impossible to tell authenticity in blurry pics, particularly where the watch is encrusted horribly in some sort of stones, the authenticity of which likewise cannot be determined in horrible pics, the fact remains that the watch is just gnarly AF. Any disagreements?


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