Rolex or Grand Seiko. Part 2

[airwave]

My first GS arrived while I was in the sandpit, absolutely exquisite.
Feels very light, obviously made for smaller wrists (I'm on second last hole on the strap)

would post up on original thread but it's now locked.

happy bunny (despite freezing my bits off being back in Scotland now)



really difficult to get in a picture just how "Lively" the watch is, think this one conveys a little of the "life" in the watch.
The 16613 that usually lives there has much more "Presence" on the wrist that the SBGM031 but, both put such a smile on my face for very different reasons.
Rolex is superb.
GS is superb.
The amount of flying I do, absolute accuracy is a moot point as I tend to be re-setting local time so often (tho the local time setting on the 031 is seriously well thought out, so I might see cumulative errors on that)

You'll never impress a non WIS with a GS as it is "just" a Seiko.
But you'll never annoy people wearing a GS as it is "just" a Seiko.

I don't think you can choose one over the other as they are so different.
just my $0.02.

Now, I'm back off to stare at my watch (and then still be none the wiser what time it is)

How silly is it that we can / do stare at our timepieces without registering what time it is
wrist art / fine engineering / source of happy smiles.

excuse iPhone photo, best I could do.

[threemonkeys]

Beautiful watch and photo, Roy.

[Psmith]

Originally Posted by airwave

My first GS arrived while I was in the sandpit, absolutely exquisite.
Feels very light, obviously made for smaller wrists (I'm on second last hole on the strap)

would post up on original thread but it's now locked.

happy bunny (despite freezing my bits off being back in Scotland now)



really difficult to get in a picture just how "Lively" the watch is, think this one conveys a little of the "life" in the watch.
The 16613 that usually lives there has much more "Presence" on the wrist that the SBGM031 but, both put such a smile on my face for very different reasons.
Rolex is superb.
GS is superb.
The amount of flying I do, absolute accuracy is a moot point as I tend to be re-setting local time so often (tho the local time setting on the 031 is seriously well thought out, so I might see cumulative errors on that)

You'll never impress a non WIS with a GS as it is "just" a Seiko.
But you'll never annoy people wearing a GS as it is "just" a Seiko.

I don't think you can choose one over the other as they are so different.
just my $0.02.

Now, I'm back off to stare at my watch (and then still be none the wiser what time it is)

How silly is it that we can / do stare at our timepieces without registering what time it is
wrist art / fine engineering / source of happy smiles.

excuse iPhone photo, best I could do.

Quite stunning - congrats!

[airwave]

Had the gs since the picture above was taken, all 10 days (and 3 watchstraps, did not get along with the oem strap/deployant)
Set it precisely to timeanddate.com
Checked it today, it is -1/2 second (total) over 10 days.......

[tinger]

GSs are awesome.. pay attention to the way the hands/markers reflect light.
My 'blingy' RO 15450 cant compete in this area.

[deezed]

Hi, this is my second GS and first spring drive. It's on a curved-end leather strap(seiko z20) which to me looks better than on a bracelet.

[DreambreaX]

If rolex gain 3 seconds per day, GS gain 3 seconds per week. amazing

[Psmith]

Originally Posted by deezed

Hi, this is my second GS and first spring drive. It's on a curved-end leather strap(seiko z20) which to me looks better than on a bracelet.
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Lovely - congrats!

[deezed]

Originally Posted by Psmith

Lovely - congrats!

Thank you. Btw, nice FF in your avatar!

[learningtofly]

Originally Posted by Leeemjack

How could anyone pay top marque watch money...for a seiko!! This is madness. It's a Japanese watch for gods sake! I don't care how nicely it's finished, its a seiko at the end of the day. It's like spending 100k on a 'Grand Toyota', you can tell people its as good as a Ferrari till you are blue in the face but they will just laugh at you...

Really, I find this sort of post not only offensive but totally ignorant of what an interest in horology should be about. I can only suggest another hobby.

Anyway, back on topic and that's a genuinely beautifully engineered and finished watch. Congrats!

[Rashid.bk]

Originally Posted by Leeemjack

Bad example dude, nobody is laughing at it and nobody is buying it either

I liken the Grand Seiko to the Honda NSX, a great car that could woop most super cars of the time....but didnt look as good, didn't have the badge or history and consequently was a total flop

Listen I'm sure Grand Seikos are great watches, but then so are standard Seikos!! So I don't see the £4500 + markup having any real base. Ok they are handmade, so are saville row suits, and made specifically for you from the finest fabrics but they still only cost around a £1000

Complete and total misinformation. Every single LFA that's built is sold. First year were all sold out before they even existed even with Toyotas weird ownership rules.
The LFA isn't meant to compete with an Aventador, it's an exercise in engineering. A GTR will rip an Aventador around a track but that's not the point.....I would still by the Aventador if I could.

The NSX looked amazing for it's time and a style still loved by car lovers 'til this day, and if it was a total flop I don't understand how every single one available on the secondary market has an extremely inflated price. Unless you just don't like japanese cars, your assessment is way way off, but it is your opinion and you're entitled to it.

The suit analogy is bs.....good riddance.



Congrats on the GS purchase, I love the shape of the hands.

[Rashid.bk]

Originally Posted by deezed

Hi, this is my second GS and first spring drive. It's on a curved-end leather strap(seiko z20) which to me looks better than on a bracelet.
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THIS is the one I'm in love with, the dial texture is amazing.

[cl63531]

Beautiful GS snowflake

[silversurfer96790]

Congrats on of great watch. I live in Tokyo and have been looking at buying one myself.They are truly beautifully made watches.
Cheers

[deezed]

Originally Posted by cl63531

Beautiful GS snowflake

Thanks, it looks better in the flesh than from my crappy pic.

Originally Posted by silversurfer96790

Congrats on of great watch. I live in Tokyo and have been looking at buying one myself.They are truly beautifully made watches.
Cheers

Originally Posted by Rashid.bk

THIS is the one I'm in love with, the dial texture is amazing.

Thanks fellas. I was sold on this watch after reading about what inspired the design of this watch.

[hpowders]

Originally Posted by RanHong

First of all thank you for your opinion. One of the reasons I bought the grand seiko is because I simply wanted a nice watch not a status symbol. I get a little uncomfortable when people notice my gmt or Daytona and gives you THE look or make comments like "Rolex! You must be rich". The other day 1 of my clients saw my grand seiko and asked " nice looking watch, how much is that?" I said " about 500" and he didn't say anything else. people can laugh all they want, at the end of the day I bought it for myself, I am happy with it, I believe it is an excellent piece of horology and that's all it matters to me.

I'm about to buy a Grand Seiko Quartz. The movement, according to those in the know, is better than that of the Rolex Submariner. It is supposed to keep time to +- 10 seconds a year. The only thing the Grand Seiko collection is lacking is snob appeal. Been there. Done that. Seiko watches for $3000-$5000. Believe it. Wear it with pride!

[hpowders]

I find the Grand Seiko quartz beautifully done:

[Demosthene]

Originally Posted by hpowders

I'm about to buy a Grand Seiko Quartz. The movement, according to those in the know, is better than that of the Rolex Submariner.

Quartz and mechanical movements are not comparable in regards to accuracy. A G-Shock will have better accuracy then a Submariner without having to specifically buy a GS quartz.

[caryyee]

Originally Posted by hpowders

I find the Grand Seiko quartz beautifully done:

That is nice. Can be had for <$2k brand new so it's quite affordable. Would much rather have a GS quartz over a TAG quartz at this price point.

[shnxx]

Would anyone really choose a Grand Seiko over a Rolex at the same price?

[caryyee]

Originally Posted by shnxx

Would anyone really choose a Grand Seiko over a Rolex at the same price?

The answer would have to be a yes ... the GS line would not exist if people were not buying them.

[Psmith]

Originally Posted by shnxx

Would anyone really choose a Grand Seiko over a Rolex at the same price?

Of course - and why not?

[tinger]

Originally Posted by shnxx

Would anyone really choose a Grand Seiko over a Rolex at the same price?

keep in mind that same list price point is very different out the door

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[deezed]

Originally Posted by shnxx

Would anyone really choose a Grand Seiko over a Rolex at the same price?

Well, if someone already has a bunch of other watches, why not add a GS? As a one and only watch, that's hard to say.

[caryyee]

Originally Posted by deezed

Well, if someone already has a bunch of other watches, why not add a GS? As a one and only watch, that's hard to say.

True. For me, as a one and only watch, the answer would be no. I think someone would need to 'graduate' thru some other brands before going to a GS. ie I don't think anyone buys a PP/VC/AP as their first foray into a 'nice' watch (unless you had squillions of dollars lol).

[bcacncnc]

Hi guys - this is an interesting thread. I started getting into watches around 4 years ago. Prior to that I wore a cheap Seiko. My first foray into "high end" watches was to try on a Rolex SDDS. I got close but have yet to buy my first Rolex. Over the years, I've added a few watches to my collection. Even got very close to picking up a Patek Nautilus. But strangely, my tastes in watches have changed. For example, whilst I own Panerais, I now have a preference for smaller more traditional sized/weighted watches. Honestly - would I buy a GS for the same price as a Rolex? Honestly, I probably would. The reason is that I look at watches a lot more differently now than what I did when I first started. So - anyway, TODAY - I put my order in for a Grand Seiko. Can't wait to see it... and will share some pics once its in my hands.

[caryyee]

Congrats Bryan! You can be assured you will be in a select group of GS owners. Esp in the likes of HK where you are, where you are probably surrounded by Rolex wearers everywhere!

[bcacncnc]

Hi Cary

Many thanks. I too have spent many hours contemplating about the proverbial question "is a Grand Seiko worth the money". For me at least, I am quite comfortable with the image and perhaps lack of brand cache of GS. And yes, in some ways, its kind of cool to be going against the grain. Every taxi driver here seems to have a Rolex, and every Tom Dick and Harry a Panerai.... cheers...

[Psmith]

Originally Posted by bcacncnc

Hi guys - this is an interesting thread. I started getting into watches around 4 years ago. Prior to that I wore a cheap Seiko. My first foray into "high end" watches was to try on a Rolex SDDS. I got close but have yet to buy my first Rolex. Over the years, I've added a few watches to my collection. Even got very close to picking up a Patek Nautilus. But strangely, my tastes in watches have changed. For example, whilst I own Panerais, I now have a preference for smaller more traditional sized/weighted watches. Honestly - would I buy a GS for the same price as a Rolex? Honestly, I probably would. The reason is that I look at watches a lot more differently now than what I did when I first started. So - anyway, TODAY - I put my order in for a Grand Seiko. Can't wait to see it... and will share some pics once its in my hands.

Congrats!

[bcacncnc]

Thanks Clive. I've bought a few watches before, but there is something about the GS that has me in anticipation like no other. I think its because many have talked highly of the workmanship and how you've got to see it in the metal. So I'm waiting anxiously to see it...