AP ROO vs Hublot

[Le Chef]

Originally Posted by Dandoun

You are right Le Chef, but not having an amazing company heritage should not mean that a watch is bad or a company in general is bad. WIS wannabees will all boycott Hublot based on the fact that the company doesn't have the same pedigree as AP. Get someone who has no clue about watches history, show them the AP and the Hublot, i could bet my life on it that the person will take the Hublot.
One should not be hypocritical, just saying. Hublot's design is much more appealing to modern crowd than AP's designs. Once you start to know more about a company and HOW THEIR WATCHES KEEP THEIR VALUE, then your judgment will be altered.

It's really about originality and distinctiveness, which is why Richard Mille is also a great watch company. If you don't create originals then you will always be seen as "the company that copied X". If one doesn't have a clue about the watch they're buying, it's their loss.

As to Hublot keeping their value - i couldn't care less - I buy watches to enjoy: and for the reason above that won't include Hublot. (Ironically the spellchecker keeps trying to change Hublot into Sublet...)

Wear what you like, but for some of us original, iconic watches with pedigree are what appeal.

[gossbeau]

Originally Posted by kilyung

Biver (former CEO) spent a year at AP when he first started in the industry. I think he's been trying to capture the AP spirit since then. IMO, his biggest achievement was Omega and Blancpain. Hublot was supposed to be his swan song.

I know no one cares but his daughter Delphine used to be my girlfriend back in Lausanne, Switzerland in 1996 LOL
She is now married to a former classmate of mine, Ruben Mira who happens to be the CEO of Cyrus Watches. I am wondering if having a father in law like JC facilitated him to grasp that position. Like they say it is more who you know than what you know.
I was a little bit intrigued because I remember Ruben, like me, being not too keen on studying hard LOL! Anyway it is no joke being the head of a luxury watch company so he gets all my credit.
Bottom line is Switzerland is such a small country where everyone knows everyone and I am glad I left!! Maybe I would have married someone's little sis LOL!!!

[gossbeau]

Originally Posted by kilyung

Biver (former CEO) spent a year at AP when he first started in the industry. I think he's been trying to capture the AP spirit since then. IMO, his biggest achievement was Omega and Blancpain. Hublot was supposed to be his swan song.

And I used to smoke spliffs with his son Ludovic back in the day!

[DCheeta]

Originally Posted by gossbeau

And I used to smoke spliffs with his son Ludovic back in the day!

Hahaha! Awesome!

[youthagainsttt]

I think it's fair to say most people, when they think of AP, they would think of ROO and Royal Oak, which has a great design but can they match Hublot's innovation particularly in the last decade?

Minute repeaters, the Dive watch that goes the deepest and La Ferrai with the 50 day power reserve. Not to mention their world time models, ultrathin and the Mag Bang especially.

I'd argue AP has really stood still in recent decades and riding on the back of the success of the Genta design still

[AK797]

Originally Posted by gossbeau

I know no one cares but his daughter Delphine used to be my girlfriend back in Lausanne, Switzerland in 1996 LOL
She is now married to a former classmate of mine, Ruben Mira who happens to be the CEO of Cyrus Watches. I am wondering if having a father in law like JC facilitated him to grasp that position. Like they say it is more who you know than what you know.
I was a little bit intrigued because I remember Ruben, like me, being not too keen on studying hard LOL! Anyway it is no joke being the head of a luxury watch company so he gets all my credit.
Bottom line is Switzerland is such a small country where everyone knows everyone and I am glad I left!! Maybe I would have married someone's little sis LOL!!!

Just googled pics of your childhood, starting to warm to Hublot now.

[singe89]

Originally Posted by youthagainsttt

I think it's fair to say most people, when they think of AP, they would think of ROO and Royal Oak, which has a great design but can they match Hublot's innovation particularly in the last decade?

Minute repeaters, the Dive watch that goes the deepest and La Ferrai with the 50 day power reserve. Not to mention their world time models, ultrathin and the Mag Bang especially.

I'd argue AP has really stood still in recent decades and riding on the back of the success of the Genta design still

How about any of the concept watches, the grand sonnerie, Schumacher laptimer, pioneering the use of forged carbon, and every high end movement that comes out of APRP used in Richard Milles and APs. AP adheres to the traditions of watch making with classic skeletons and grande comps yet also pushes innovation.

[improviz]

Originally Posted by singe89

How about any of the concept watches, the grand sonnerie, Schumacher laptimer, pioneering the use of forged carbon, and every high end movement that comes out of APRP used in Richard Milles and APs. AP adheres to the traditions of watch making with classic skeletons and grande comps yet also pushes innovation.

Yup. Plus, AP has been doing minute repeaters for a long time, since the 1800s....and thin movements: ditto. They introduced the thinnest fob movement in the world in the late 1920s....
Partial list of historical AP accomplishments

[Plastique999]

Is this a serious question?


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[masterserg]

Originally Posted by singe89

How about any of the concept watches, the grand sonnerie, Schumacher laptimer, pioneering the use of forged carbon, and every high end movement that comes out of APRP used in Richard Milles and APs. AP adheres to the traditions of watch making with classic skeletons and grande comps yet also pushes innovation.

Indeed.

[jdkrut]

The watches don't really compete IMO. It is like Mercedes and BMW, Ferrari and Lamborghini -- very different customers. AP is finer, more tradition, rarer -- and costs more. Hublot is more accessible, more widely available and sturdier for daily wear. The whole comparison is pretty artificial IMO because they aren't really competitors.

[bluebeamer]

check out this guy's instagram: https://www.instagram.com/shameonwrist/

he hates hublot with a passion! he's not too fond of AP either, but hublot is always the butt of his jokes