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Old 30 November 2015, 08:05 AM   #91
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I guess now I have to go look at mine. To be honest, it won't matter either way.
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Old 30 November 2015, 08:13 AM   #92
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I had to get my loupe out to check and mine are lined up correctly. I have to say if they were not, it would probably not bother me but it's your call.
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Old 30 November 2015, 08:56 AM   #93
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I looked at mine with a loupe. The crown is lined up perfectly. Whew...dodged a bullet there.
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Old 30 November 2015, 09:06 AM   #94
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It is a QC issue, not only is the crown misaligned, but the whole rehaut ring is off. Looking with the watch 12 o'clock up top, on the left of the 12 o'clock position, the R's in "ROLEX" should be in alignment with the round hour markers. On the right of the 12 o'clock marker, the X's in "ROLEX" should be aligned to the hour markers. The crown should be in alignment with the 12 o'clock position. Yours is off, I would take it back to the AD and have them replace the watch...I would accept nothing else. Regardless of what others say, did you not work hard to earn you cash? Do you not expect to receive a non defective watch for asking price at an AD...8900.00 USD, plus tax?
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Old 30 November 2015, 09:17 AM   #95
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This issue is quite frequent, I would say 1 of every 6 does not have perfect alignment.

The rehault chapter ring is a separate component inserted into the case, so this type of "problem" is really common with machining tolerance. Certainly not to be considered defective.

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Old 30 November 2015, 09:27 AM   #96
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Seems like from the explored view, the rehault is press fitted into the case. If that's the case, then I can see where one or a couple out of 10 can have a small misalignment to the dial. Once the dial is placed in I would think that removing or re-adjusting the rehault would be more trouble than it's worth.
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Old 30 November 2015, 09:56 AM   #97
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I checked my LN. It's just slightly off to the right. I couldn't care less.


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Old 30 November 2015, 10:21 AM   #98
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My GMT IIc, not the BLNR, is aligned perfectly. What is the all black version anyway? BLNR is Blue (BL) and NR (black, noir in French). So is the all black bezel LN (no idea what this would mean) or NR? I always refer to it as the NR but it seems others use LN, including all black Subs. Sorry, not trying to hijack the thread.
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Old 30 November 2015, 10:46 AM   #99
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1. I can't see this on mine
2. If I could and it was misaligned..
3. I wouldn't care

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Old 30 November 2015, 10:51 AM   #100
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Here's the official picture from the Rolex website, look closely enough and you'll see the crown on the rehaut is slight off to the right. So I guess it's not a defect and just 'normal'.

You can't go by photos from Rolex... Look at this Rolex photo of the Explorer ii. There's no way the gmt hand would move that far at 11 mins past the hour--it's way off. I know. I own the piece.
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Old 30 November 2015, 10:56 AM   #101
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It's a painted disc, screwed onto a movement that is, in turn, fitted and screwed into the case..

There will always be tolerances when parts are fitted together. It is likely that if everything is loosened and fiddled with you could get near perfect alignment..

However, to call it "misalignment", or poor fitment, poor quality, or anything else of the sort is a stretch..

For those who think that a Rolex is "expensive" and for the price should be perfect have not been buying any high end watches...
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Old 30 November 2015, 11:15 AM   #102
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Thus is one of the things I checked on my Submariner before purchase, OCD, yep but I was aware of it at purchase time and I checked it. As far as I know you can't "realign" this, it's part of the case itself. Does it affect the watch in any way, nope. If there were two watches side by side that I was considering purchasing and all was equal except for this I'd buy the one that was aligned. I'm funny like that,,,
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Old 30 November 2015, 12:29 PM   #103
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My LVC is around 3 years old. It is my only piece until tomorrow when my blue YM I comes in. 2 months after getting my LVC it stopped working, so it went to RSC where it was fixed. They won't say what was up. Earlier this year it was running +14 so my AD regulated it. My bezel has never lined up which has been irritating. Now I find that my rehaut crown is also not aligned. I also have a bizarre almost 1/4 turn of play when setting the time before hands move. I love the LVC, always have, but this is adding up. I've never taken a loupe to my Rolex and probably never will. If I did I would notice small imperfections that actually I would be fine with, and expect under magnification. But this crown thing might be the last straw. Am I being unreasonable in expecting "close to perfect"?
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Old 30 November 2015, 01:27 PM   #104
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My LVC is around 3 years old. It is my only piece until tomorrow when my blue YM I comes in. 2 months after getting my LVC it stopped working, so it went to RSC where it was fixed. They won't say what was up. Earlier this year it was running +14 so my AD regulated it. My bezel has never lined up which has been irritating. Now I find that my rehaut crown is also not aligned. I also have a bizarre almost 1/4 turn of play when setting the time before hands move. I love the LVC, always have, but this is adding up. I've never taken a loupe to my Rolex and probably never will. If I did I would notice small imperfections that actually I would be fine with, and expect under magnification. But this crown thing might be the last straw. Am I being unreasonable in expecting "close to perfect"?
I wouldn't worry. Answer me this honestly: What man-made inanimate object in this world is perfect?

Is a BMW perfect? Is it perfect 3 years later? Have you ever owned a perfect computer or cell phone? Be honest.
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Old 30 November 2015, 01:29 PM   #105
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My point? The item may not be perfect, but does it do its job?
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Old 30 November 2015, 01:32 PM   #106
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Nothing is perfect. Rolex should be closer than what I've dealt with.
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Old 30 November 2015, 06:09 PM   #107
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My GMT IIc, not the BLNR, is aligned perfectly. What is the all black version anyway? BLNR is Blue (BL) and NR (black, noir in French). So is the all black bezel LN (no idea what this would mean) or NR? I always refer to it as the NR but it seems others use LN, including all black Subs. Sorry, not trying to hijack the thread.

I think LN stands for "Lunette Noire", like black dial or something.
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Old 30 November 2015, 06:12 PM   #108
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Please please Rolex I prayed every day and you got rid of the holograms so praying again Rolex please get rid of the rehaut Rolex Rolex branding.Then there would be less of these so called alignment points for the modern day Rolex owner to moan about.
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Old 30 November 2015, 06:37 PM   #109
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Honestly. The rehaut I could easily live with. It's the other stuff I'm disturbed by.
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Old 30 November 2015, 07:25 PM   #110
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That slight misalignment would drive me mad. I'm extremely OCD about things like that. Glad I'm a member on this forum, and know what to look for when I upgrade my 16610!
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Old 30 November 2015, 07:34 PM   #111
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I wouldn't worry. Answer me this honestly: What man-made inanimate object in this world is perfect?

Is a BMW perfect? Is it perfect 3 years later? Have you ever owned a perfect computer or cell phone? Be honest.
I suppose I could put MY hand up.
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Old 30 November 2015, 07:42 PM   #112
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This issue is quite frequent, I would say 1 of every 6 does not have perfect alignment.

The rehault chapter ring is a separate component inserted into the case, so this type of "problem" is really common with machining tolerance. Certainly not to be considered defective.

Not in my engineering company.

I showed the OP 's original pix to my wife and asked her what she thought.

She said "it looks like a fake".
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Old 30 November 2015, 07:55 PM   #113
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I'm so glad there are others having OCD like me :-)
On my old 116610LN the crown was off, and from when I noticed it, it started to annoy me. It was my first Rolex and I guess I was hoping everything should be perfect...
When I started looking for a SDc, one of the first things i looked for was always the rehaut engraving. I have seen 5 SDc's in real life including the one I wear now, and on all 4 that i checked the alignment on, the crown has not been centered. After seing 3 SDc's and my sub, all misaligned, I guess it didn't bother me that much anymore. With my current SDc, the misalignemnt is very close to perfect, like the Explorer 2 official photo above. So I have yet to see in real life a 100% correct crown alignment... So my "status" now... rehaut alignment is ok to be a little off, but bezel alignment must be spot on :-)
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Not in my engineering company.

I showed the OP 's original pix to my wife and asked her what she thought.

She said "it looks like a fake".
If your engineering company ate the cost of exceeding the specs, I'm certain all would be perfect all the time. But most customers wouldn't be willing to exceed the specs at their cost. That's why we agree on the standards at the start of the project, yeah?

I wouldn't pay extra for perfect alignment of a solely aesthetic part unless that part was the reason I bought the watch. And I don't see any official marketing literature from Rolex that tells me I should expect this ring to be perfectly aligned. I also don't see it as a contributor to the aesthetics or value of the watch. Hence, I don't care that my Explorer isn't perfectly aligned, it's meeting the expectation set forth when I purchased the watch.
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Old 30 November 2015, 10:14 PM   #115
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It is a QC issue, not only is the crown misaligned, but the whole rehaut ring is off. Looking with the watch 12 o'clock up top, on the left of the 12 o'clock position, the R's in "ROLEX" should be in alignment with the round hour markers. On the right of the 12 o'clock marker, the X's in "ROLEX" should be aligned to the hour markers. The crown should be in alignment with the 12 o'clock position. Yours is off, I would take it back to the AD and have them replace the watch...I would accept nothing else. Regardless of what others say, did you not work hard to earn you cash? Do you not expect to receive a non defective watch for asking price at an AD...8900.00 USD, plus tax?
Lets get things perfectly straight the rehaut cannot move as its a case ring made from a solid piece of metal with engraving on.Now the dial is just a round circle with paint applied markers, that dial is attached to the movement via the dial feet.Now there is a very very tiny amount of lateral movement in the dial before its fully tightened down to the top plate via two tiny screws.So the only main man applied things are the dials and rotors on return from the COSC as none are present when movements are tested at the COSC.And if there was no engraving on the rehaut everyone's would line up somewhere much like the winding crown emblem.
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If you look at the picture above, the Crown on the dial isn't aligned with the bottom of the 12 hour triangle marker either.

Ok padi, I admit it, that one was for you...lol
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It's a painted disc, screwed onto a movement that is, in turn, fitted and screwed into the case..

There will always be tolerances when parts are fitted together. It is likely that if everything is loosened and fiddled with you could get near perfect alignment..

However, to call it "misalignment", or poor fitment, poor quality, or anything else of the sort is a stretch..

For those who think that a Rolex is "expensive" and for the price should be perfect have not been buying any high end watches...
Larry, would a 1 million dollar Richard Mille be "perfect" in every way, shape, and form? FWIW I would hope so.
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I just look at it from another angle and to m it looks good.

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Mine is perfectly centered , this thread made me get it out and check






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Looks off to the right slightly to me!
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