On the hunt for an unpolished GMT 16710!

[Loevhagen]

My 16710 is not unpolished and it has no box nor papers - but I enjoy it still. :)

[Boaters]

Originally Posted by Loevhagen

My 16710 is not unpolished and it has no box nor papers - but I enjoy it still. :)

A very fine example of a 16710 and the pics are not bad either

[The Libertine]

Beautiful pictures ^^^^

[porschedude]

Welcome to the club

[breitlings]

Originally Posted by watchwatcher

I would actually agree with this. Plus, I think it would making swapping bracelets a lot easier. And if I got one of these, one of the first things I would do would be to put it on a modern oyster bracelet.

I tend to agree as well. From my understanding reading experiences on here lug holes are preferred if you want to put it on a nato.

Unfortunately (or perhaps fortunately?) I cannot wear the new 904l bracelets very long due to a nickel allergy but would understand the allure of such a bracelet swap. Although in practice I cannot fault the old style bracelet especially once the little tweaks are know to make it fit tighter, its very comfortable.

[Rockrolex]

Originally Posted by JP Chestnut

Unquestionably over valued. I bought mine NIB for around $3,000 in 2004. Another super overpriced reference is the 16610lv. Not coincidently, both references don't have a compelling alternative among the new models.

I bought mine, a Y-series GMT-II NIB with a black bezel, about the same time for about $3,200. It's my favorite watch. I would never part with it.

[SeaAndSky]

These things aren't worth 8000.00. Fools and their money proven once again. HQ Milton always has an excellent selection.

[Loevhagen]

Originally Posted by SeaAndSky

These things aren't worth 8000.00. Fools and their money proven once again. HQ Milton always has an excellent selection.

Excellent in 2 pieces?

http://www.hqmilton.com/search/resul...eywords=16710/

[Rockrolex]

Originally Posted by JP Chestnut

Unquestionably over valued. I bought mine NIB for around $3,000 in 2004. Another super overpriced reference is the 16610lv. Not coincidently, both references don't have a compelling alternative among the new models.

I bought mine, a Y-series GMT-II NIB with a black bezel, about the same time for about $3,200. It's my favorite watch. I would never part with it.

[JP Chestnut]

Originally Posted by Rockrolex

I bought mine, a Y-series GMT-II NIB with a black bezel, about the same time for about $3,200. It's my favorite watch. I would never part with it.

I'm actually wearing mine today. I bought it off of TZ, back when they only had one Rolex section and most of the knowledgeable guys posted there frequently.

[Speed]

Originally Posted by SeaAndSky

These things aren't worth 8000.00. Fools and their money proven once again. HQ Milton always has an excellent selection.

Well they do...but often "vintage" and very well-loved. Note - even for more modern pieces they do t often offer box / papers if that's important to you.

[Speed]

My D Serial is on Jubilee - with Clasp -and 502T end links.

A great watch.

[Wahlberg]

Originally Posted by Loevhagen

Excellent in 2 pieces?

http://www.hqmilton.com/search/resul...eywords=16710/

They sell really fast.

[fskywalker]

Is Y serial the last 16710 series with lug holes?


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[SeaAndSky]

Originally Posted by Loevhagen

Excellent in 2 pieces?

http://www.hqmilton.com/search/resul...eywords=16710/

That's just what they show online. Far more selection in store. Give them a holler or better yet use it as an excuse to spend a weekend in SFO.

[JP Chestnut]

Originally Posted by Speed

Note - even for more modern pieces they do t often offer box / papers if that's important to you.

It's somewhat odd. It almost seems like that's the niche that they have chosen to occupy. On the other hand, their watches often have some of the most "honest" and nice cases that you're likely to find.

[JP Chestnut]

Originally Posted by fskywalker

Is Y serial the last 16710 series with lug holes?


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Early have them, later don't. It's the serial where they transitioned.

[fskywalker]

Originally Posted by JP Chestnut

Early have them, later don't. It's the serial where they transitioned.

Thanks!


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[JP Chestnut]

Originally Posted by SeaAndSky

That's just what they show online. Far more selection in store. Give them a holler or better yet use it as an excuse to spend a weekend in SFO.

I can't understand why anyone would want to spend a weekend at the airport, but I guess... it takes all kinds.

[sco]

Originally Posted by Loevhagen

My 16710 is not unpolished and it has no box nor papers - but I enjoy it still. :)

WOW! Those are incredible pictures

[sco]

Double post..

[Base-Z]

Originally Posted by breitlings

I have to disagree with the claim the 16710 is overvalued. First unless rolex starts making more of them, its the last stop for aluminium bezels, 5 digit case size etc. Secondly it is an iconic Rolex with the jumping GMT complication which many believe Rolex does the best.

Finally if we are assessing if something is over valued, we have to look at the value itself. There are very few Rolexes right now you could buy and next year sell for more. The 16710 is one and that's why it is undervalued and appreciating.

Yes, they sure appear to have increased of late. Last year I bought a
2005, un-polished 16710 complete set for £3,750 from a dealer in the U.K.
But now the prices just seem to keep going up and up.

[mmbiker]

Originally Posted by japenney

I've decided I need one of these in my life before they are too difficult to find. Unpolished with box and papers. I like with and without lug holes. Do you guys think these are too expensive already? How much would you dish out for a nice example? Lets assume we are not talking about 3186 movements. I have not seen many available for sale recently. Any advice on finding one? I have tried the for sale forums, emailed davidsw and takuya, and i look reguarly at watchrecon.

They save the hunt is half the fun. I hope that's true

Question, I am looking at a used GMT too. Any trick to determine if a watch has been polish or not?

Thx


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[SeaAndSky]

Originally Posted by JP Chestnut

I can't understand why anyone would want to spend a weekend at the airport, but I guess... it takes all kinds.

C'mon now, you know what I meant. No airport is or ever will be worthy of a weekend but the city of San Francisco sure is.

[JP Chestnut]

Originally Posted by SeaAndSky

C'mon now, you know what I meant. No airport is or ever will be worthy of a weekend but the city of San Francisco sure is.

Well, SFO does sell some decent sushi.

[JP Chestnut]

Originally Posted by mmbiker

Question, I am looking at a used GMT too. Any trick to determine if a watch has been polish or not?

Thx


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Nothing special about a gmt. Look at watches which you know are unpolished. After you see enough, it's pretty easy to tell.

[mtgjr]

Originally Posted by mmbiker

Question, I am looking at a used GMT too. Any trick to determine if a watch has been polish or not?

Thx

Unless you're buying it directly from the original owner and he assures you it's never been polished, I would just assume that it's been polished somewhere along the way. Most "trusted sellers" on the forum will have the watch given at least a light polish before listing it for sale.

Polishing is not necessarily a bad thing, as long as it's done right and not too frequently. I bought my 10-year old 16710 from the original owner, and it had never before been serviced or polished. The first thing I did was take it to Rik Dietel for a complete overhaul and it came back looking brand new.

[mmbiker]

Originally Posted by mtgjr

Unless you're buying it directly from the original owner and he assures you it's never been polished, I would just assume that it's been polished somewhere along the way. Most "trusted sellers" on the forum will have the watch given at least a light polish before listing it for sale.

Polishing is not necessarily a bad thing, as long as it's done right and not too frequently. I bought my 10-year old 16710 from the original owner, and it had never before been serviced or polished. The first thing I did was take it to Rik Dietel for a complete overhaul and it came back looking brand new.

Complete overhaul, how much did that cost?


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[Volatile Agent]

I've been watching the prices of the 16710 really increase over the past couple years.

I think the popularity of the watch is because of it's versatility in being able to change 3 different bezels. Also, having the third hand complication is great for people who travel or even just want a different look to their watch over the classic Sub.

You get more "bang for the buck" with the GMT II than any other Rolex in my opinion.

[mtgjr]

Originally Posted by mmbiker

Complete overhaul, how much did that cost?


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I think he charges $550, just a bit less than an RSC. Includes movement servicing and case/bracelet refinishing. I also bought a new bezel insert, which added another $100 or so.