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Old 27 March 2018, 05:13 AM   #1
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My Daytona 116500LN Purchase agreement Contract

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Producing more watches means that the SS Daytona is no longer the SS Daytona. The fact is a huge part of the appeal of this watch is its exclusivity. If that aura of unobtainable is gone, it ceases to be special. Look at the TT Daytona. If that were the limited one instead, things would be the other way around.


I have a SS Daytona so I agree with the lure of the Daytona. I think they can increase production enough to keep it exclusive while reducing grey market prices. Never going to eliminate these issue but it would help.
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Old 27 March 2018, 05:19 AM   #2
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I have a SS Daytona so I agree with the lure of the Daytona. I think they can increase production enough to keep it exclusive while reducing grey market prices.
I agree that they should ship more of them. I think a 2 year wait is enough time. I don’t think they should ever produce them in LVc or BLNR numbers.
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Old 27 March 2018, 05:38 AM   #3
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I agree that they should ship more of them. I think a 2 year wait is enough time. I don’t think they should ever produce them in LVc or BLNR numbers.


Agreed, I don’t want to see one in the case any given day.
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Old 27 March 2018, 05:10 AM   #4
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The year hold on the card is way too much for me.. My watch, my card...
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Old 27 March 2018, 05:15 AM   #5
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The year hold on the card is way too much for me.. My watch, my card...
So you would never buy a vintage or used Rolex then? You won’t get the papers or card at all in most cases. In this situation the card will be released. It’s not like you’ll be looking at the card. You’ll be wearing the watch. B&P just get stored away.
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Old 27 March 2018, 05:37 AM   #6
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I'm 90% sure I know who this AD is and can assure others that not all AD's in Scotland value their customers like this. This has been their MO since new model Daytona was launched.

However a warning - these agreements might be uneforceable in law but good luck buying another Rolex if you do dispose of your watch within the first 12mo..

They will likely do the same with SS Pepsi
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Old 27 March 2018, 05:46 AM   #7
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So you would never buy a vintage or used Rolex then? You won’t get the papers or card at all in most cases. In this situation the card will be released. It’s not like you’ll be looking at the card. You’ll be wearing the watch. B&P just get stored away.
I'm specifically talking about a modern brand new watch from an AD. If I'm spending that kind of money or any amount really, I want everything that comes with the purchase. No rules, regulations etc. I think that's fair, and what we are all accustom to.
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Old 27 March 2018, 05:11 AM   #8
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The contract can't hold up in court with that type of chosen font.
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Old 27 March 2018, 05:13 AM   #9
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I can just visualize it now:

You're in a high-stakes poker game. You look at your cards and low and behold you're staring back at two beautiful Aces. You bet strong and everyone but one guy folds. In fact, he re-raises you all of your chips. Because you're playing at a very exclusive backdoor casino the rules are a little more liberal. So you push all your chips in and call out...
"I call you & re-raise you with my one week old white dial Daytona 116500!"

Your opponent looks at you funny...

"Where did you buy that beautiful watch?"

"I waited three years to have the privilege of buying this watch at XYZ Jewelers!"

"Well before I call your Daytona raise I'm going to need to know if you signed the AD mandatory agreement."

"Oh crud, I did! Can you hold on while I run over to the AD and sell them my watch back? I guess you're right, I'm unable to wager my watch as per our agreement. Hold the cards, I'll be back in an hour"

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Old 27 March 2018, 05:21 AM   #10
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I'd be okay signing that if it meant getting the warch in a reasonable timeframe (under 3 months), not 3 years....

But, more importantly, congrats on an awesome watch!
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Old 27 March 2018, 05:22 AM   #11
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If someone's willing to be on a wait list for years to get one, I would imagine that someone would be happy to sign such an agreement.
Alternatively, would people on this good forum rather that AD do "market adjustments"?
If this piece is being sold at MSRP, and the demand is as strong as the Daytona is at the moment, this agreement should be no big deal.
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Old 27 March 2018, 05:23 AM   #12
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If someone's willing to be on a wait list for years to get one, I would imagine that someone would be happy to sign such an agreement.
Alternatively, would people on this good forum rather that AD do "market adjustments"?
If this piece is being sold at MSRP, and the demand is as strong as the Daytona is at the moment, this agreement should be no big deal.
exactly. If you don't want hoops and rules and waiting, pay secondary prices. Simple.
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Old 27 March 2018, 05:35 AM   #13
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My Daytona 116500LN Purchase agreement Contract

Some might even sign a non disclosure agreement.

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Old 27 March 2018, 05:37 AM   #14
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Where do I pay and sign?
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Old 27 March 2018, 05:39 AM   #15
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This is great, I hope ALL ADs run this run. More to actual people who want them and 0 to the resellers
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Old 27 March 2018, 05:45 AM   #16
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Not sure I’d be okay signing this.
OP, So what reference does your soul get you?

Congrats on a great addition!
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Old 27 March 2018, 06:17 AM   #17
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Not sure I’d be okay signing this.
OP, So what reference does your soul get you?

Congrats on a great addition!
Hopefully a free platona

I ALWAYS! wanted a daytona AlWAYS! I still go and have a sneak peak now and then 8 months after purchasing

It’s an occasional watch only.

There is no way I’d have paid grey prices for a SS watch.
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Old 27 March 2018, 06:33 AM   #18
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Hopefully a free platona

I ALWAYS! wanted a daytona AlWAYS! I still go and have a sneak peak now and then 8 months after purchasing

It’s an occasional watch only.

There is no way I’d have paid grey prices for a SS watch.
At a minimum.

Enjoy your Daytona and congrats again.
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Old 27 March 2018, 06:26 AM   #19
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I've said on a couple of threads now that I signed a pre purchase contract for my daytona. Well here it is. I've blacked out the AD and the watch managers name.

I had no issue signing it and was happy for them to keep the warranty card.

It took me three years to get it.... To be honest I think it was luck on my part I'm not really sure I was ever on any list even though I had been pestering them for one.Take from that what you will. I'm not even close to being a VIP purchaser with this dealer however I do have service and purchase history with them.

Lmao. If an AD ever handed me something like this I'd rip it up in their face.
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Old 27 March 2018, 06:41 AM   #20
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Lmao. If an AD ever handed me something like this I'd rip it up in their face.
To be fair with your current inventory it’s unlikely you’ll ever have that happen
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Old 27 March 2018, 06:46 AM   #21
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Today I was comparing a D500 with a 2nd gen VC Overseas that was actually priced a grand lower, and the VC blows the D500 away in finish, feel and intricacy. The hype over this watch is insane and it does not deserve such adulation, it is no where near a Haute piece and never will be. It's just a good, solid, all round sports watch. Stay away from the circus if you can.
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Old 27 March 2018, 09:01 PM   #22
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Today I was comparing a D500 with a 2nd gen VC Overseas that was actually priced a grand lower, and the VC blows the D500 away in finish, feel and intricacy. The hype over this watch is insane and it does not deserve such adulation, it is no where near a Haute piece and never will be. It's just a good, solid, all round sports watch. Stay away from the circus if you can.
So I am holding my Vacheron Overseas Chrono Gen 2 (white) in my left and my Rolex 116500 (white) in my right hand. I bought the Daytona yesterday and I've had the VC for 2 years. They are both absolutely amazing watches - but I find them very different.

The Vacheron is far heavier and definitely more subtle - I would argue more elegant at the same time. It is of a higher finishing than the Daytona. All the details. Even the box is amazing. Probably 5x as heavy and far larger than the Rolex box.

The Daytona I would argue is flashier. Maybe it's the dial itself and the black sub-dials. Without a doubt, it has more charisma than the Vacheron. In my view, the Daytona movement is the better of the two, but both watches have great, time-tested movements.
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Old 27 March 2018, 09:55 PM   #23
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So I am holding my Vacheron Overseas Chrono Gen 2 (white) in my left and my Rolex 116500 (white) in my right hand. I bought the Daytona yesterday and I've had the VC for 2 years. They are both absolutely amazing watches - but I find them very different.

The Vacheron is far heavier and definitely more subtle - I would argue more elegant at the same time. It is of a higher finishing than the Daytona. All the details. Even the box is amazing. Probably 5x as heavy and far larger than the Rolex box.

The Daytona I would argue is flashier. Maybe it's the dial itself and the black sub-dials. Without a doubt, it has more charisma than the Vacheron. In my view, the Daytona movement is the better of the two, but both watches have great, time-tested movements.
It's no contest side by side, one is clearly HH and the other is not. And yes the weight is a very different, I like the luxurious heft. I had the black dial VC which has a more dramatic guilloche patterning so my impression against the white D500 was more pronounced, in white they probably seem more similar.

The fact that the VC is now cheaper than the retail of the D500, never mind the crazy grey prices, is why I really don't want to feed the hype and do encourage looking at other brands.
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Today I was comparing a D500 with a 2nd gen VC Overseas that was actually priced a grand lower, and the VC blows the D500 away in finish, feel and intricacy. The hype over this watch is insane and it does not deserve such adulation, it is no where near a Haute piece and never will be. It's just a good, solid, all round sports watch. Stay away from the circus if you can.
That is so true and even a very nicely done date complication.
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Old 27 March 2018, 07:01 AM   #25
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OP buys the watch with no intention of resell.
6 months later he hates the thing, he can't sell it?
I would not do this.
Or, is this a joke, we are getting closer to April Fools Day.
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Old 27 March 2018, 07:04 AM   #26
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OP buys the watch with no intention of resell.
6 months later he hates the thing, he can't sell it?
I would not do this.
Or, is this a joke, we are getting closer to April Fools Day.
No not a joke. I did sign that paper
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Old 27 March 2018, 08:09 AM   #27
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I understand topicstarter and would also sign the contract to be able to buy a dream watch at retailprice and good timeframe. The warrantycard can be picked up one year later no big deal.
Only the flippers are crying here.
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Old 27 March 2018, 08:14 AM   #28
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I understand topicstarter and would also sign the contract to be able to buy a dream watch at retailprice and good timeframe. The warrantycard can be picked up one year later no big deal.
Only the flippers are crying here.
Bull.

If you take no issue with some jeweler holding onto YOUR property for a year, that's on you. The vast majority of us want what we paid for. ALL of what we paid for. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Old 27 March 2018, 08:37 AM   #29
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Bull.



If you take no issue with some jeweler holding onto YOUR property for a year, that's on you. The vast majority of us want what we paid for. ALL of what we paid for. Nothing more, nothing less.


I'll complete that for you to the poster you quoted; Bullshit.

I am not a flipper at all and find this a crock of shit. I have my contributions in this thread already and will leave it at that.


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Old 27 March 2018, 08:11 AM   #30
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My ad talked about flipping and greys for 10 minute before adding me to the list... its getting annoying
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