Laurent Ferrier Sport Auto

[charger_vital]

Originally Posted by _speedmaster_

agree to disagree.

For what it's worth, I've loved the Laurent Ferrier brand for years now and have one on order, coming next month. I'm glad this sports watch was a hit and hopefully it sets up the brand for long term success.

Awesome move. I love the brand as well. Which one did you go with if I may ask? I’ve been eyeing the Origin White dial… though I understand they will be coming out with a new one (dial) at w&w this year so I’m waiting to see.


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[_speedmaster_]

Originally Posted by charger_vital

Awesome move. I love the brand as well. Which one did you go with if I may ask? I’ve been eyeing the Origin White dial… though I understand they will be coming out with a new one (dial) at w&w this year so I’m waiting to see.


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Either the galet salmon dial or the ecole regulator (leaning towards the regulator).

Awesome, definitely look forward to your incoming whichever you choose.

[ajw45]

Originally Posted by _speedmaster_

1) It's not a matter of finishing preference. The finishing is not to the same standard. This is fact. You can debate cote de geneve versus vertical brushing all you want (you are still wrong here). That aside, there is significantly less black polish, one of the most cost prohibitive finishing techniques. The bridges were literally redesigned unnecessarily to have less pronounced angles, making the anglage much easier to execute. These are facts. The movement is cheaper to finish.

2). It's the same bracelet. Resizing it to fit a 40mm case is not the same as developing a new bracelet. Stop it.

3) I don't know how much cheaper the Swiss lever was for them, obviously only they know. The fact is, it's cheaper. They had a good reason for making this switch. But...it's cheaper nonetheless. Also, only changing the escapement does not make this a new movement. Stop the hyperbole.

Totally agree with all of this. A positive slant to all this is that it does make the rest of the line-up seem like an even better value than before so what I take from the sport auto is I should buy something from the traditional micro-rotor line before those prices go up and/or they start cost cutting on those too.

[charger_vital]

Originally Posted by _speedmaster_

Either the galet salmon dial or the ecole regulator (leaning towards the regulator).

Awesome, definitely look forward to your incoming whichever you choose.

I stopped by the LF AD Fourtane in Carmel while I was in the Bay Area over the holidays to try on the Galet Champagne as well as the Galet retro white dial. Unbelievable! One of the coolest uncomplicated dress watches I’ve ever seen/worn. And I’m not a even a dress watch kind of guy… if you couldn’t tell. Congrats on a great soon to be pick up.


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[_speedmaster_]

Originally Posted by charger_vital

I stopped by the LF AD Fourtane in Carmel while I was in the Bay Area over the holidays to try on the Galet Champagne as well as the Galet retro white dial. Unbelievable! One of the coolest uncomplicated dress watches I’ve ever seen/worn. And I’m not a even a dress watch kind of guy… if you couldn’t tell. Congrats on a great soon to be pick up.


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I love those retro dials. Imho, I think Ferrier has mastered the art of dress watch design. They've straddled the fine line of being unique and timeless.

[ILoveFerrari]

Originally Posted by charger_vital

Right, your argument's logic is still off. LF can't be "cost cutting" when they decided to not include something that is not that expensive to include in the first place. You are striking out there.

This sounds more like: you think a cote de geneve looks expensive and great. Period end.

First let's set some ground rules for the purpose of carrying out our discussion here. I have just seen how you make your argument with others. First, and again no ad hominem, that is a well known juvenile defensive mechanism in making an argument. Example in point, your previous (and wrong) guess of what job I do have no role in supporting your logics and argument. Second, no need for hyperbole. I am here to talk watches and not seek validation about what I have in life. Showing that new Lange 1 was simply to invalidate your argument of that I don't know what I am talking about since I don't know what a 50k watch looks like. Since you are interested in carry out a adult like conversation and argument on watches, please reply, otherwise please don't bother as it will be ignored.

My logic is simple on this Genève strip removal. Since it actually is rather inexpensive, why remove it knowing that it will be the first thing to strike majority of customers by its presence or lack thereof. The logical assumption (of course all these is assumptions as I or you don't work for LF HQ) is that the mindset is to cut cost.

Back to the part 2 of our discussion - movement. The easiest way to illustrate how overpriced this sports LF without any complication is by this Armin Strom watch I have been contemplating but have not pulled the trigger yet. It is at CHF 54K Armin Strom Mirrored Force resonance. If I remember correctly, there are only three watchmakers in the world that make resonance movement. Armin Strom, Haldimann and of course FP Journe. To be able to make resonance movement is considered a milestone in showing its prowess in watchmaking. Resonance is not torbillon where we can have Chinese made torbillon knock off as well. As you may know, Armin Strom is a very revered brand. Of course there are many more expensive resonance AS offers.

There is no complication for this LF sports auto. The materials used is stainless steel. The dial is nothing special. The finish is already a dead horse to beat by me and others. I just want to finish my last argument with the innovation and robustness of movement that can be obtained with 50k+.

Anyhoo, no one can judge how much a dollar is worth except by the one who makes it. This watch I am sure is worth 50k to those who have ordered it. I am not putting down those by having ordered it. We buy what we like, as simple as that. I am simply stating my opinion of its value, again the relative value that is. This watch in my mind is really another 30k watch before inflation. My 2 cents.

Someone above just had real life experience with it, and was disappointed with its quality. I think it to be noted.





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[charger_vital]

Originally Posted by ilovegt

...Anyhoo, no one can judge how much a dollar is worth except by the one who makes it. This watch I am sure is worth 50k to those who have ordered it. I am not putting down those by having ordered it. We buy what we like, as simple as that. I am simply stating my opinion of its value, again the relative value that is. This watch in my mind is really another 30k watch before inflation. My 2 cents.

Yeah. We are on the same page with your clarification (i.e. that you personally believe this watch is not worth $50k). Your original post said "We know what a 50k watch is..." which I found daft considering this watch is sold out for 2-3 years at that $50k price point. Indeed, if We (the consumer market) know what a $50k watch is, and if this watch is sold out at $50k, then We, the market, believe the price is too low, not too high. That was my only point from the beginning. Anyway, good luck on the AS.

[ILoveFerrari]

Originally Posted by charger_vital

Yeah. We are on the same page with your clarification (i.e. that you personally believe this watch is not worth $50k). Your original post said "We know what a 50k watch is..." which I found daft considering this watch is sold out for 2-3 years at that $50k price point. Indeed, if We (the consumer market) know what a $50k watch is, and if this watch is sold out at $50k, then We, the market, believe the price is too low, not too high. That was my only point from the beginning. Anyway, good luck on the AS.

Thank you for your response. Well put. I do have a feeling that there is currently a manic phase on the market, regarding the buying behavior. It's quite similar to the housing market, which thank God finally came down with selling price starting to come below or at asking.

The limited supply definitely contributes to overall buying behavior.

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[CasinoRoyale_007]

https://laurentferrier.ch/pages/team

François has the Sport Auto on his wrist here and it looks amazing. Posting since there’s very few third-person perspectives from far out re: the Sport Auto…

Love it!

[GB-man]

Originally Posted by CasinoRoyale_007

https://laurentferrier.ch/pages/team

François has the Sport Auto on his wrist here and it looks amazing. Posting since there’s very few third-person perspectives from far out re: the Sport Auto…

Love it!

I find it hilarious that this guy is above LF on the totem pole when LF is the company namesake.

[CasinoRoyale_007]

Originally Posted by GB-man

I find it hilarious that this guy is above LF on the totem pole when LF is the company namesake.

Haha, I think he’s President of the company so that’s probably why. Doesn’t he own a majority stake?

I think Laurent and Christian are on the “creative” side, semantically speaking

[londonpilgrim]

Have mine on order for a 2023 delivery - one to forget about and be surprised when it arrives.

[GB-man]

Originally Posted by CasinoRoyale_007

Haha, I think he’s President of the company so that’s probably why. Doesn’t he own a majority stake?

I think Laurent and Christian are on the “creative” side, semantically speaking

He looks like uncle June

[charger_vital]

Originally Posted by CasinoRoyale_007

https://laurentferrier.ch/pages/team

François has the Sport Auto on his wrist here and it looks amazing. Posting since there’s very few third-person perspectives from far out re: the Sport Auto…

Love it!

Delicious


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[athens7]

François is the CEO and majority shareholder, so yes, he is the boss.

[charger_vital]

Originally Posted by CasinoRoyale_007

https://laurentferrier.ch/pages/team

François has the Sport Auto on his wrist here and it looks amazing. Posting since there’s very few third-person perspectives from far out re: the Sport Auto…

Love it!

Are you sure that’s not the Grand Sport on his wrist?

Edit: wait, I see the date aperture… it’s the sport auto.


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[CasinoRoyale_007]

Originally Posted by charger_vital

Are you sure that’s not the Grand Sport on his wrist?

Edit: wait, I see the date aperture… it’s the sport auto.


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Haha yes - I too had to check for the date. I’m glad he’s wearing it since this gives us some good wrist shots from distance!

Edit: spelling

[charger_vital]

Originally Posted by CasinoRoyale_007

Haha yes - I too had to check for the date. I’m glad he’s wearing it since this gives us some good wrist shots from distance!

Agree! It looks sick at a distance.

[CasinoRoyale_007]

Originally Posted by charger_vital

Agree! It looks sick at a distance.

I love it even more after these distance shots. I really see the benefits of the case shape now - and it looks more proportionate from farther away imo (and the case is properly reminiscent of the Grand Sport in dimensions).

[athens7]

Originally Posted by CasinoRoyale_007

I love it even more after these distance shots. I really see the benefits of the case shape now - and it looks more proportionate from farther away imo (and the case is properly reminiscent of the Grand Sport in dimensions).

Most IG photos seem to be taken with phone cameras, which often switch to wide angle mode for close ups. Wide angle makes the watch head look bigger than it is. Unfortunately, it looks like a few of the press photos were taken the same way . These pictures make the bracelet look very thin relative to the watch case, which I don’t think is true.

[charger_vital]

Originally Posted by athens7

Most IG photos seem to be taken with phone cameras, which often switch to wide angle mode for close ups. Wide angle makes the watch head look bigger than it is. Unfortunately, it looks like a few of the press photos were taken the same way . These pictures make the bracelet look very thin relative to the watch case, which I don’t think is true.

Here is a non-pro non-IG shot for different perspective.




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[charger_vital]

Down the barrel as well…




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[ap1]

Originally Posted by charger_vital

Down the barrel as well…




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Down the barrel, mosso lol

[charger_vital]

Originally Posted by ap1

Down the barrel, mosso lol

He's a legend!

[athens7]

Thanks for the photos. From those shots, the bracelet seems to taper well and proportionally. It also looks like the bracelet drapes well from the case and onto the wrist. With the lugs coming off of the midcase, rather than being tapered to be in line with the bottom of the caseback, how did you find the watch to feel on wrist? My Galet wears very comfortably, but I wonder if the Sport Auto might feel top heavy (if that's even possible with Titanium).

[charger_vital]

Originally Posted by athens7

Thanks for the photos. From those shots, the bracelet seems to taper well and proportionally. It also looks like the bracelet drapes well from the case and onto the wrist. With the lugs coming off of the midcase, rather than being tapered to be in line with the bottom of the caseback, how did you find the watch to feel on wrist? My Galet wears very comfortably, but I wonder if the Sport Auto might feel top heavy (if that's even possible with Titanium).

I can't say enough about how much I liked wearing it. The pics don't capture how well it molds to the wrist. It's proportional and pleasantly light without feeling dainty (no top heaviness at all). Definitely one of the most comfortable watches I've tried on in a while. It left no doubt in my mind that it will make its way into my collection... and will likely be in heavy rotation.

[ziggy10ten]

Thanks for all the comments above.
My first time on the forum, very helpful information

I have the sports auto due for delivery in June.
Having 2nd doubts.

Anyone have the watch yet?
I am trying to decide whether it is worth the price tag.

thanks in advance

[charger_vital]

Originally Posted by ziggy10ten

Thanks for all the comments above.
My first time on the forum, very helpful information

I have the sports auto due for delivery in June.
Having 2nd doubts.

Anyone have the watch yet?
I am trying to decide whether it is worth the price tag.

thanks in advance

Unfortunately, they are unpopular, cheaply made, mass produced, and overrated. They will lose a ton of value. Lucky for you I am a really nice guy and will take your allocation off of your hands for a minimal loss. Feel free to PM me if you want to let it go.

[Racecar001]

Originally Posted by ziggy10ten

Thanks for all the comments above.
My first time on the forum, very helpful information

I have the sports auto due for delivery in June.
Having 2nd doubts.

Anyone have the watch yet?
I am trying to decide whether it is worth the price tag.

thanks in advance

Your first post on TRF is to say you have one of the quickest possible delivery’s on a allocations of one of the most popular 2022 W&W release and then ask for opinions on wether you should keep the allocation or not.

You are either really stupid and lucky or a troll.

[charger_vital]

Originally Posted by ziggy10ten

Thanks for all the comments above.
My first time on the forum, very helpful information

I have the sports auto due for delivery in June.
Having 2nd doubts.

Anyone have the watch yet?
I am trying to decide whether it is worth the price tag.

thanks in advance

Originally Posted by Racecar001

Your first post on TRF is to say you have one of the quickest possible delivery’s on a allocations of one of the most popular 2022 W&W release and then ask for opinions on wether you should keep the allocation or not.

You are either really stupid and lucky or a troll.

Ouch. That’s a bit harsh. $50k is a ton of money to spend on a watch. Its totally reasonable to have second thoughts about the purchase even if you are lucky enough to be first in line. Where else can you get advice other than here?


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