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valentine · 26 June 2009, 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by diablojota

I believe the media has done a fair job of giving the family some space at the moment. I believe the media is paying homage to one of the most influential artists of an era. People are celebrating his life still into these wee hours of the morning. Stars are coming forward and sharing their reactions to the untimely end.

This man did so much for race relations, developing a culture, and contributing to the betterment of society no matter what his personal issues may have been.

But like I said, from my perspective, the media has definitely been giving the family space, but they still are paying homage to this unexpected and great loss.

fair enough, frank!

seeing more "tributes" today..and less speculation on his personal "habits'...thats a sigh of relief...May he continue to touch lives through his music and his contributions to society...

Brunotheboxer · 26 June 2009, 10:56 PM

He had talent no one can say otherwise however you feel about him personally. Me, I do think he was a pedo but thats MY opinion.

RIP Now GOD will judge you.

ijen0311 · 26 June 2009, 11:34 PM

The news is reporting that he has left the Beatles catalog to Sir Paul McCartney in his will. Looks like his family is also saying he was "given" a high dose of morphine/demerol shortly before his death. The next few weeks should prove very interesting...

sini1717 · 26 June 2009, 11:37 PM

I'M not sure what to feel about him.
If all the stuff we read is true!!! then he was a tortured soul. How very sad to see such a man behave the way he did at times....
I hope that stuff wasn't true !!!!.Its still a very sad and untimely death and my deepest sympathy's go to his family. Who must be distraught.
The world has lost one of its greatest entertainers and a man that gave millions of people a lot of pleasure.

I hope he is now at Peace. And thank him for all the pleasure he gave and the good things he did,

JimSnyder · 26 June 2009, 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimbits76

Whatever happened behind closed doors, we may truly never know, we may have an inkling or our own ideas on what went on but we do not know for certain.

The man had the freedoms of all of us, right or wrong he was never convicted of these allegations and the truth may never rear it's head.

The thing is, no matter how you feel about these allegations or his personal life or the rumours of weirdness...he is now gone!

One of the most talented and awe inspiring musicians and performers of all time.

He wasn't just an American...the entire world saw him as one of their own...his music is know throughout the world, his name is identifiable in all corners of the world.

I grew up with him being the biggest star on the planet and the trio of albums with QJ (Off the Wall, Thriller and Bad) are probably the greatest consecutive pop records of all time.

His influence today on your boys bands, Timberlakes and Britneys can be seen and many of these modern "R&B" performers would have given anything to perform with him.

The star may have faded somewhat in recent times but it hasn't diminished the legacy of his talents.

It's sad...his death would always be controversial, not only in circumstances but in the way people eulogized or demonized him but that isn't the point.

He has left behind some private, loving siblings and his own children, I feel for them.

J

Well said friend. A great light has gone out.

djhiram · 27 June 2009, 12:13 AM

As it was said before, he was a pioneer. I remember being 5 or 6 years old and listening to my Thriller picture LP over and over again while wearing my aviator sunglasses and red members only jacket. His music always brought back fond childhood memories for me and I now truly feel that a big part of that is gone.

Regardless of his choices made in his private life, folks MJ revolutionized music and changed the business forever. The world has lost an icon; someone who was in the same league as Elvis Presley and Celia Cruz. There will NEVER be another Michael Jackson.

He spent 4 generations in the public limelight as a performer and entertainer. No doubt that takes its toll on you physically and mentally. To sum this all up: I just saw a clip on CNN where he was asked a few years ago if he was lonely. He gave a cold, pensive, approximately 10 second stare and replied, "Yes. I am a very lonely man." So, so sad...maybe now he will finally Rest in Peace....

Carolina · 27 June 2009, 01:12 AM

Why is that post appearing in every thread??

ijen0311 · 27 June 2009, 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Carolina

Why is that post appearing in every thread??

If you're going out, do it in a big way, I guess?

Xenophon · 27 June 2009, 01:31 AM

Regardless of any personal issues he was a great musical talent. The world will be a duller place for that reason alone.

Gedanken · 27 June 2009, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Carolina

Why is that post appearing in every thread??

Some folks cry into their little teacups about being banned by their own fault, other smear crap all over the walls. Either way they're little, little individuals. Pay them no mind.

ocwatching · 27 June 2009, 01:41 AM

what a life...RIP MJ...you were part of my formative years...thank you...

mt_hangglider · 27 June 2009, 02:00 AM

.

ijen0311 · 27 June 2009, 02:01 AM

If you can't say something nice?

SLRdude · 27 June 2009, 02:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ijen0311

If you can't say something nice?

Hear Hear Jen!

Gedanken · 27 June 2009, 02:04 AM

Why can't folks take Frank's advice? If they'd RTFT, they'd have known that things like that get people banned round these here parts.

idk01 · 27 June 2009, 02:07 AM

I was about to mention how far away I am from you James, and also mention I could hear your foot steps heading in the direction of this thread :-)

Gedanken · 27 June 2009, 02:10 AM

Oh, I don't mind, Dave - this is the perfect opportunity for scumbags to reveal themselves so I can give them a trip down the great white waterslide.

Gedanken · 27 June 2009, 02:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ijen0311

If you can't say something nice?

Honest opinions are like orifices, Jen - everyone's got at least one but only the uncouth make an effort to display theirs to the world.

idk01 · 27 June 2009, 02:12 AM

Its been a while since we've seen a thread be the giver of many a red card.

ijen0311 · 27 June 2009, 02:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gedanken

Honest opinions are like orifices, Jen - everyone's got at least one but only the uncouth make an effort to display theirs to the world.

Whenever it starts with "honest opinion," I know

is coming.

Quote:

Originally Posted by idk01

Its been a while since we've seen a thread be the giver of many a red card.

at least it's not one of mine this time!

Gedanken · 27 June 2009, 02:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by idk01

Its been a while since we've seen a thread be the giver of many a red card.

Meh, happens every once in a while. It serves a purpose in helping keep the collective IQ up on the forum.

idk01 · 27 June 2009, 02:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ijen0311

Whenever it starts with "honest opinion," I know

is coming.

at least it's not one of mine this time!

I have to behave myself big time, If I don't I'll have James on my doorstep giving me a red nose

SLRdude · 27 June 2009, 02:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gedanken

Oh, I don't mind, Dave - this is the perfect opportunity for scumbags to reveal themselves so I can give them a trip down the great white waterslide.

I mod and own a forum myself so I have a bit of experience in the field (about 5 years), although my year's work would be about as much as you do in a few days lol.

Those were my same thoughts... hmmm... close the thread... or let it go on and find the ones that are looking to stir things up....

Gedanken · 27 June 2009, 02:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by idk01

I have to behave myself big time, If I don't I'll have James on my doorstep giving me a red nose

You've got too much sense to do that, Dave.

Then again, if you did stuff up, it'd have to be taken as a deliberate effort and then where would we be?

Quote:

Originally Posted by SLRdude

I mod and own a forum myself so I have a bit of experience in the field (about 5 years), although my year's work would be about as much as you do in a few days lol.

Those were my same thoughts... hmmm... close the thread... or let it go on and find the ones that are looking to stir things up....

You know what I'm talking about, Chip - threads like these are like giant bug zappers.

idk01 · 27 June 2009, 02:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gedanken

You've got too much sense to do that, Dave.

Then again, if you did stuff up, it'd have to be taken as a deliberate effort and then where would we be?

You got me there

Like it here too much to stuff up

diablojota · 27 June 2009, 02:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by idk01

You got me there

Like it here too much to stuff up

And I just don't think it's in your nature either, bud!

Gedanken · 27 June 2009, 02:53 AM

Yuh huh. By and large we get decent, intelligent folks round these here parts and when we don't, I just gotta earn that king's ransom that Steve pays me.

Mosco · 27 June 2009, 02:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gedanken

Yuh huh. By and large we get decent, intelligent folks round these here parts and when we don't, I just gotta earn that king's ransom that Steve pays me.

I thought Steve paid in cotton candy and Twizzlers? I was about to sign up...

Gedanken · 27 June 2009, 02:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mosco

I thought Steve paid in cotton candy and Twizzlers? I was about to sign up...

Hey, hey, hey! We don't want no cheap foreign labour round here!

Taffi Abernathy · 27 June 2009, 02:58 AM

[QUOTE=Jimbits76;1236896]Whatever happened behind closed doors, we may truly never know, we may have an inkling or our own ideas on what went on but we do not know for certain.

The man had the freedoms of all of us, right or wrong he was never convicted of these allegations and the truth may never rear it's head.

The thing is, no matter how you feel about these allegations or his personal life or the rumours of weirdness...he is now gone!

One of the most talented and awe inspiring musicians and performers of all time.

He wasn't just an American...the entire world saw him as one of their own...his music is know throughout the world, his name is identifiable in all corners of the world.

Jim,

I really feel you conveyed the situation perfectly. Michael Jackson was a highly talented musician as well as a deeply wounded person. We may never know the ultimate "truths" about him, but he is gone and that's reality. How hard it must have been at times to live your life in the spotlight with every word and action analyzed and subject to public scrutiny. Hopefully, now that he is gone he will now know the peace which seemed to elude him during his lifetime. Poignant thoughts, Jim. Faith

27 June 2009, 01:12 AM	#127
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27 June 2009, 01:31 AM	#129
Xenophon 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Xenophon Location: UK Posts: 2,729	Regardless of any personal issues he was a great musical talent. The world will be a duller place for that reason alone. __________________ The sea! The sea! Θάλαττα! θάλαττα!

27 June 2009, 01:41 AM	#131
ocwatching "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Phil Location: CA Posts: 5,374	what a life...RIP MJ...you were part of my formative years...thank you... __________________ too much into watches...

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mt_hangglider Banned Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: USA Posts: 17	What I mean is I just can't keep my opinions to myself. . Last edited by Welshwatchman; 27 June 2009 at 02:10 AM.. Reason: .

27 June 2009, 02:04 AM	#135
Gedanken "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: Sir Location: Melbourne Watch: F-series SD Posts: 8,589	Why can't folks take Frank's advice? If they'd RTFT, they'd have known that things like that get people banned round these here parts. __________________ You buy a Casio to make sure you're on time; you wear a Rolex because you don't have to be on time.

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Brunotheboxer Banned Join Date: Mar 2008 Real Name: Bruno Location: Boston/Cape Cod Watch: 16610,PAM. 111, G Posts: 7,608	He had talent no one can say otherwise however you feel about him personally. Me, I do think he was a pedo but thats MY opinion. RIP Now GOD will judge you.

26 June 2009, 11:34 PM	#123
ijen0311 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Jen Location: Jax, FL Watch: Sea-Dweller Posts: 3,977	The news is reporting that he has left the Beatles catalog to Sir Paul McCartney in his will. Looks like his family is also saying he was "given" a high dose of morphine/demerol shortly before his death. The next few weeks should prove very interesting...

26 June 2009, 11:37 PM	#124
sini1717 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: PAUL Location: u k Watch: WHITE FACE DAYTONA Posts: 632	I'M not sure what to feel about him. If all the stuff we read is true!!! then he was a tortured soul. How very sad to see such a man behave the way he did at times.... I hope that stuff wasn't true !!!!.Its still a very sad and untimely death and my deepest sympathy's go to his family. Who must be distraught. The world has lost one of its greatest entertainers and a man that gave millions of people a lot of pleasure. I hope he is now at Peace. And thank him for all the pleasure he gave and the good things he did,

27 June 2009, 12:13 AM	#126
djhiram Banned Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Hiram Location: Miami, FL Watch: 16600 Sea Dweller Posts: 1,233	As it was said before, he was a pioneer. I remember being 5 or 6 years old and listening to my Thriller picture LP over and over again while wearing my aviator sunglasses and red members only jacket. His music always brought back fond childhood memories for me and I now truly feel that a big part of that is gone. Regardless of his choices made in his private life, folks MJ revolutionized music and changed the business forever. The world has lost an icon; someone who was in the same league as Elvis Presley and Celia Cruz. There will NEVER be another Michael Jackson. He spent 4 generations in the public limelight as a performer and entertainer. No doubt that takes its toll on you physically and mentally. To sum this all up: I just saw a clip on CNN where he was asked a few years ago if he was lonely. He gave a cold, pensive, approximately 10 second stare and replied, "Yes. I am a very lonely man." So, so sad...maybe now he will finally Rest in Peace....

27 June 2009, 02:01 AM	#133
ijen0311 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Jen Location: Jax, FL Watch: Sea-Dweller Posts: 3,977	If you can't say something nice?

27 June 2009, 02:07 AM	#136
idk01 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Dave Location: Australia Watch: DJ16233TT Posts: 18,485	I was about to mention how far away I am from you James, and also mention I could hear your foot steps heading in the direction of this thread :-) __________________ *Apprentice to Terry Newton; Superstar and Fake Sleuth*

27 June 2009, 02:10 AM	#137
Gedanken "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: Sir Location: Melbourne Watch: F-series SD Posts: 8,589	Oh, I don't mind, Dave - this is the perfect opportunity for scumbags to reveal themselves so I can give them a trip down the great white waterslide. __________________ You buy a Casio to make sure you're on time; you wear a Rolex because you don't have to be on time.

27 June 2009, 02:12 AM	#139
idk01 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Dave Location: Australia Watch: DJ16233TT Posts: 18,485	Its been a while since we've seen a thread be the giver of many a red card. __________________ *Apprentice to Terry Newton; Superstar and Fake Sleuth*

27 June 2009, 02:53 AM	#147
Gedanken "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: Sir Location: Melbourne Watch: F-series SD Posts: 8,589	Yuh huh. By and large we get decent, intelligent folks round these here parts and when we don't, I just gotta earn that king's ransom that Steve pays me. __________________ You buy a Casio to make sure you're on time; you wear a Rolex because you don't have to be on time.

27 June 2009, 02:58 AM	#150
Taffi Abernathy "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Faith Location: Philadelphia, PA Watch: TT DJ, SS DJ Posts: 4,053	[QUOTE=Jimbits76;1236896]Whatever happened behind closed doors, we may truly never know, we may have an inkling or our own ideas on what went on but we do not know for certain. The man had the freedoms of all of us, right or wrong he was never convicted of these allegations and the truth may never rear it's head. The thing is, no matter how you feel about these allegations or his personal life or the rumours of weirdness...he is now gone! One of the most talented and awe inspiring musicians and performers of all time. He wasn't just an American...the entire world saw him as one of their own...his music is know throughout the world, his name is identifiable in all corners of the world. Jim, I really feel you conveyed the situation perfectly. Michael Jackson was a highly talented musician as well as a deeply wounded person. We may never know the ultimate "truths" about him, but he is gone and that's reality. How hard it must have been at times to live your life in the spotlight with every word and action analyzed and subject to public scrutiny. Hopefully, now that he is gone he will now know the peace which seemed to elude him during his lifetime. Poignant thoughts, Jim. Faith __________________ Sarcasm is my second language.

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