Ceramics making ROLEX a fragile watch?

[ec51]

Originally Posted by Rashid.bk

There you go imagining....your imagination and what I said are two totally separate things. My description refers to construction not materials.

Originally Posted by Rashid.bk

In my opinion, better quality design and materials.

You said materials not me.

What else would "rattly" be referring to, if not the bracelet?

[GlideLockHeadLock]

Originally Posted by Thatguy

Have to agree to disagree on why they went to solid links.

what are your thoughts on it? sorry if i missed them earlier in the post.
Im only going off of what i have read on countless sites, Basel and a few AD's.

[GlideLockHeadLock]

Originally Posted by ec51

You said materials not me.

What else would "rattly" be referring to, if not the bracelet?

the old clasp doesnt rattle? hmm....

[Thatguy]

Originally Posted by GlideLockHeadLock

what are your thoughts on it? sorry if i missed them earlier in the post.
Im only going off of what i have read on countless sites, Basel and a few AD's.

Marketing. I own a subc btw.

[ufboy73]

Originally Posted by GlideLockHeadLock

Dude, just get the old one and be happy, I got mine because my "opinion" is that it's a better product, don't agree...yaay! You're not spending my money, I am, so I purchase based on my information, research, needs, desires, etc. perceived or real.
We're here voicing an opinion for pros and cons, undecided voters can make a decision based on the arguments presented.
Thank God we don't all like the same thing or there would just be one single style Rolex for everyone.

he might just have Sub C envy for all we know....he could be stuck with the older Non Date version?!?[/QUOTE]

i bet his doesnt even have crown guards, pos....

seriously, rolex (and even just the sub, specifically) really does seem to have something for eveyone...

actually, now that i think about it, they dont really have something for me - as i would prefer a mix of the current bracelet, clasp and dial, but the old lug shape case...

[GlideLockHeadLock]

Originally Posted by ufboy73

he might just have Sub C envy for all we know....he could be stuck with the older Non Date version?!?

i bet his doesnt even have crown guards, pos....

seriously, rolex (and even just the sub, specifically) really does seem to have something for eveyone...

actually, now that i think about it, they dont really have something for me - as i would prefer a mix of the current bracelet, clasp and dial, but the old lug shape case...[/QUOTE]

lol i though the same exact thing about the Lugs until i owned the SubC, i no prefer the new ones. I have a big wrist and it just looks better then my older one did. Looks a little more sporty. Too each his own

[Jason71]

Originally Posted by DJF881

Clockwork is not the best solution anymore for any problem. It's expensive and it's fragile, and it's imprecise. For "tool" purposes, it was superseded in the 70's by quartz, and more recently by digital.

There are a cheap waterproof watches that cost less than $300 that do at least what the Sub does.

A dive computer, the most expensive of which costs about a quarter of what you'd pay for a new Rolex Sub, does things like monitoring your depth, and can tell you when to stop on ascent for decompression. Ten years ago, the higher-end dive computers might have been more expensive, and the sub was certainly cheaper, but the computer was still cheaper than the Sub, and performed safety functions that the Sub simply doesn't.

A Swiss watch is purely an aesthetic choice. If you want to impress people with your tools, you should sell your watch and buy a bunch of chainsaws.

Thanks for the lecture on diving. I guess since you are the expert, I am going to change my total diving technique and start diving by your standards. Do you have any other tips for me??

BTW, in my hundreds of dives over the last several years, I have never once had someone recognize my mechanical timepiece. You must not dive because everyone is WAY TOO busy on a dive boat to worry about someone else's kit. I wear my watch for my own safety.....not for anyone else.

[GlideLockHeadLock]

Originally Posted by Thatguy

Marketing. I own a subc btw.

Well i guess only time will tell. fellow subc owner!!!

[ChuckFinlay]

Originally Posted by STEELINOX

The cost included a bent bezel as well as the insert; likely bent from the drop...

Agree, I read the whole thread and saw it ended up being both, so maybe $1500+ nowadays is likely....that must have hurt

[Rashid.bk]

Originally Posted by ec51

You said materials not me.

What else would "rattly" be referring to, if not the bracelet?

Are you ok....what are reading....

I simply stated better design and materials as my quote indicates. Somehow you locked on bracelets like a pit bull, I made no connection between bracelets and materials.

Rattly bracelet doesn't have a dang thing to do with the metal/material used, that's a characteristic of construction, i.e.. hollow center links, end links, and stamped clasp. Goodness gracious...

Where the bracelet is concerned my better would refer to the "design" part of my quoted statement. Can't be more clearer than that.

[ufboy73]

does it really matter, at this point, what someone meant by specifics of their opinion - its their opinion, there will be no winning the back and forth here.

[GlideLockHeadLock]

a lot of butt hurt people on this thread

[ec51]

Originally Posted by Rashid.bk

Are you ok....what are reading....

I simply stated better design and materials as my quote indicates. Somehow you locked on bracelets like a pit bull, I made no connection between bracelets and materials.

Rattly bracelet doesn't have a dang thing to do with the metal/material used, that's a characteristic of construction, i.e.. hollow center links, end links, and stamped clasp. Goodness gracious...

Where the bracelet is concerned my better would refer to the "design" part of my quoted statement. Can't be more clearer than that.

So what DID your comment regarding "better materials" refer to? You have been avoiding this...

[ec51]

Originally Posted by ufboy73

he might just have Sub C envy for all we know....he could be stuck with the older Non Date version?!?

i bet his doesnt even have crown guards, pos....

seriously, rolex (and even just the sub, specifically) really does seem to have something for eveyone...

actually, now that i think about it, they dont really have something for me - as i would prefer a mix of the current bracelet, clasp and dial, but the old lug shape case...

Trust me, if the Sub C was something I wanted - I would own it.

If you are referring to a Submariner (which is what I own by the way), then no - I'm not "stuck" with anything. All you Sub C owners are the Submariner DATE owners...I own a Submariner however.

[Rashid.bk]

Originally Posted by ec51

So what DID your comment regarding "better materials" refer to? You have been avoiding this...

who cares, check the rolex website for the new materials featured in the modern professional line, it's common knowledge at this point. if you don't know, just hang around and read more threads.
I know exactly why I bought mine.

[GlideLockHeadLock]

Non date subs......yikes

[ec51]

Originally Posted by Rashid.bk

who cares, check the rolex website for the new materials featured in the modern professional line, it's common knowledge at this point. if you don't know, just hang around and read more threads.
I know exactly why I bought mine.

[ec51]

Originally Posted by GlideLockHeadLock

Non date subs......yikes

[PunkJr]

Originally Posted by ufboy73

purely in terms of intended tool usage, i think the sub went downhill by adding the date...then the white gold surrounds, polished portions, etc.

by now, its more like an evolution brnad of what it once was - based on preference, one might argue its 'better' now but it clearly has changed from its original priority.

Unlike gloss ceramic bezel inserts and polished links, white gold hour surrounds and hands were added for a purpose, not for show.

[GlideLockHeadLock]

Originally Posted by ec51

im one of those people that think a Rolex without a cyclops is incomplete.
Just my opinion though

[ufboy73]

Originally Posted by PunkJr

Unlike gloss ceramic bezel inserts and polished links, white gold hour surrounds and hands were added for a purpose, not for show.

you think they made these changes to make it a better dive watch? i dont.

[ufboy73]

Originally Posted by ec51

Trust me, if the Sub C was something I wanted - I would own it.

If you are referring to a Submariner (which is what I own by the way), then no - I'm not "stuck" with anything. All you Sub C owners are the Submariner DATE owners...I own a Submariner however.

i know, i was just kidding.

[ec51]

Originally Posted by GlideLockHeadLock

im one of those people that think a Rolex without a cyclops is incomplete.
Just my opinion though

Why - because non-WIS will have that much harder of a time realizing that YOU own a Rolex...?

[Rashid.bk]

Originally Posted by PunkJr

Unlike gloss ceramic bezel inserts and polished links, white gold hour surrounds and hands were added for a purpose, not for show.

That's why AP, Omega, Panerai, etc have begun to use ceramics...just for show, unbelievable.

[GlideLockHeadLock]

Originally Posted by ec51

Why - because non-WIS will have that much harder of a time realizing that YOU own a Rolex...?

are u like 16? i swear you argue about the dumbest s--, like a child. Move on my man.....let it gooooooo

[ec51]

Originally Posted by GlideLockHeadLock

are u like 16? i swear you argue about the dumbest s---, like a child. Move on my man.....let it gooooooo

It was a valid question, I was just wondering.

[GlideLockHeadLock]

i think you over analyze things....

i just think the submariner looks weird without the cyclops date feat. Too plain and like i said before, IMO looks incomplete. Has zero to do with what other people realizing what i am wearing.

[landroverking]

Children behave. We all love Rolex for different reasons.
Some right and some wrong IMO. The word is relax and enjoy each other here.

[GlideLockHeadLock]

i am totally relaxed....just dealing with a instigator lol but i can agree, time to move on and enjoy our time here! good call Jay!

[HL65]

Kindergarten in session.

Now let's all grow up and behave before I have to give some timeouts!