Gold Rolex in a work environment

[up2nogood]

In case of client offence, mention it (or the money used to buy it) belonged to [insert title of deceased relative] and they left it to you in their will. You wear it to remind you of them.

Even the worlds most judgemental tightwad would settle down after hearing this.

[silverbullet818]

Originally Posted by up2nogood

In case of client offence, mention it (or the money used to buy it) belonged to [insert title of deceased relative] and they left it to you in their will. You wear it to remind you of them.

Even the worlds most judgemental tightwad would settle down after hearing this.

ROFL... you would be surprised how many out there are evil

Most employers can't stand it when their employees or those who report to them appear to be better off than them. These SOB's then use their positional power to make life hell. I know this first hand. Been through it many times.

BUT I am happy to say I have never departed from my belief of "I earned it and I deserve it". I just give them that "up yours smile", you know the one I am talking about. They know it but can't do anything about it because you remain polite and respectful.

[vette boy 52]

Buy a SS whatever Rolex and remove the doubt

[Chaching]

I would never wear any of my Gold Watches to the office. Rolex just has this thing attached to it....people judge because of it. I save their wrist time for weekends or after work. I typically rotate between by Exp II 42mm, SS GMT Pepsi, Sub Anniversary LV, and my SS/18K White Gold Datejust with Black Stick Dial. An ALL Gold Rolex is way too Flashy for the workplace no matter what age. Gold is hypnotizing in a way PEOPLE NOTICE AN ALL GOLD WATCH!!!! People today are way too quick to judge and could hinder a career. May piss some higer ups off. It may depend on your work setting. In mine...it wouldn't be wise. Just my 2 cents......

[up2nogood]

I dunno. My clients know I make money investing, as well as advising. My property collection is way bigger than my watch one.
Never had anyone go funny about watches. But if I wasn't dealing with wealthy folks, I'd reckon I would have to leave the toys at home.

I am assuming the OP isn't working in a lower to middle socio-economic environment.

As for staff wearing nice watches, I am an active enabler!!

[silverbullet818]

Originally Posted by Chaching

I would never wear any of my Gold Watches to the office. Rolex just has this thing attached to it....people judge because of it. I save their wrist time for weekends or after work. I typically rotate between by Exp II 42mm, SS GMT Pepsi, Sub Anniversary LV, and my SS/18K White Gold Datejust with Black Stick Dial. An ALL Gold Rolex is way too Flashy for the workplace no matter what age. Gold is hypnotizing in a way PEOPLE NOTICE AN ALL GOLD WATCH!!!! People today are way too quick to judge and could hinder a career. May piss some higer ups off. It may depend on your work setting. In mine...it wouldn't be wise. Just my 2 cents......

All good points. This is why I like WG.

[Aeternitas]

Originally Posted by Big_Fan

If they're digging into finances because of the watch you wear is not the type of client that you want because you're not a partner you're a vendor. What's next you have to drive a horrible car because you're scared they may see you take pride in what you own and drive? Maybe you have to wear ill fitting off the rack clothes instead of bespoke suits? Maybe when you show up in February with a tan because you just got back from vacation they're going to be bummed out because they haven't gone anywhere in 6 years? You cannot live your life in fear of how someone else is going to react to it.

In reality if the guy had a big contract with his customer you should have been on friendly terms with his customer gone to a lot of expensive dinners gone to a lot of really good seats at ball games and be on friendly terms not lose the deal over a piece of jewelry.



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The alternative doesn't have to mean living and dressing like a pauper. The differentiating factor is the flashiness of the yellow gold Rolex here. A Gold GMT is the type of watch that is pretty much designed to draw attention to itself. It's the sort of thing that can catch someone's eye from across the room. A bespoke suit isn't going to jump out at someone like that unless it has some crazy pattern. Driving something you take pride in doesn't have to mean driving a Ferrari or a Porsche to a prospective client meeting. You may be able to pull this off after establishing yourself with the client (although I'd still caution against it), but from the original post, it sounds like he's recently started and is still meeting clients, including one who he admits gave him funny looks (supposedly) due to the watch.

[Hairdude1]

I used to wear my 116718 at work and never worried

[silverbullet818]

Originally Posted by Hairdude1

I used to wear my 116718 at work and never worried

Used to? What happened?

[up2nogood]

Got fired for wearing a flash watch?

[rangercadre]

lol, the shine probably blinded a couple of his colleague hence he was fired

[Fleetlord]

Originally Posted by Big_Fan

If they're digging into finances because of the watch you wear is not the type of client that you want because you're not a partner you're a vendor. What's next you have to drive a horrible car because you're scared they may see you take pride in what you own and drive? Maybe you have to wear ill fitting off the rack clothes instead of bespoke suits? Maybe when you show up in February with a tan because you just got back from vacation they're going to be bummed out because they haven't gone anywhere in 6 years? You cannot live your life in fear of how someone else is going to react to it.

In reality if the guy had a big contract with his customer you should have been on friendly terms with his customer gone to a lot of expensive dinners gone to a lot of really good seats at ball games and be on friendly terms not lose the deal over a piece of jewelry.



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When you're dealing with mega national accounts you will be a vendor..never a partner.

You can't wine and dine most of these companies. They don't allow you to curry favor over their buyers and they revolve positions so that you never really have a full relationship with any them.

Ask for a price increase in your product? Ok...open up your company books and prove you really need it. If you don't, there are XXXX amount of companies waiting to get in...your choice...

Wear your Rolex or drive a Bentley to a buyer meeting? Yeah, we're counting your money the second you sit in front of us....and we will now make sure you're not getting rich off of us...Because if you're making that much...we are paying TOO much...

That's just how it is.

[Davidmay]

Originally Posted by montty

Note I am not recommending anything here. I just observe the fact. Though, I accept, it might be different in your environment.
You might call me biased, but i will never take seriously any 21 yr old wearing gold rolex... Justin Biber... may be. Young Tyson... well may be. But junior sales assistant? Come on, give me a break.

Haha a junior sales assistant like the ones you see at Walmart?



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[up2nogood]

Originally Posted by Fleetlord

When you're dealing with mega national accounts you will be a vendor..never a partner.

You can't wine and dine most of these companies. They don't allow you to curry favor over their buyers and they revolve positions so that you never really have a full relationship with any them.

Ask for a price increase in your product? Ok...open up your company books and prove you really need it. If you don't, there are XXXX amount of companies waiting to get in...your choice...

Wear your Rolex or drive a Bentley to a buyer meeting? Yeah, we're counting your money the second you sit in front of us....and we will now make sure you're not getting rich off of us...Because if you're making that much...we are paying TOO much...

That's just how it is.

Damn, that's depressing. And this attitude from a fellow watch enthusiast.
Ok, I give up. Time for a Seiko.

[superdog]

Originally Posted by Davidmay

Haha a junior sales assistant like the ones you see at Walmart?



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No matter what, your still just 21.

You don't have the experience or judgement that comes along with it.

It is what it is. Junior.

[superdog]

Originally Posted by Big_Fan

If they're digging into finances because of the watch you wear is not the type of client that you want because you're not a partner you're a vendor. What's next you have to drive a horrible car because you're scared they may see you take pride in what you own and drive? Maybe you have to wear ill fitting off the rack clothes instead of bespoke suits? Maybe when you show up in February with a tan because you just got back from vacation they're going to be bummed out because they haven't gone anywhere in 6 years? You cannot live your life in fear of how someone else is going to react to it.

In reality if the guy had a big contract with his customer you should have been on friendly terms with his customer gone to a lot of expensive dinners gone to a lot of really good seats at ball games and be on friendly terms not lose the deal over a piece of jewelry.



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I own a construction company and I'm responsible for probably 80% of the sales.

Everything I do is measured. I wear a nice watch. But there is a difference between an 8k$ watch and a 30k$ watch.

I drive a nice car too. But nothing too flashy. When I drove a Range Rover I received endless comments. Now in a jeep SRT, I've only gotten one comment and it was a compliment on my judgement.

I wear nice, comfortable clean clothes. I walked into a warehouse once in a suit. A warehouse where they store $290 t-shirts. And my contact asked me if I thought I was better than him.

As Ken mentioned earlier, it depends largely on the environment. But everything we do is a sale. And right or wrong, a 21 year old kid wearing an expensive gold watch, does send a message. The question for the OP is what type of message us he sending and how is it being received.

[MilgaussBe]

I'm in my mid 20s and I don't even wear my Milgauss to work, it's a quite shiny watch with lots of polished surfaces. I like being low key and I do encouter a very wide range of people in my job from small farmers to CEOs of very large companies (commercial executive, handling machinery for the agricultural and industrial sector).

I'd never wear a YG watch to work, no matter what people will notice and ask (wrong) questions. Although I love the GMT green dial it's my fav YG Rolex. But it's too much at your age. I'd wear it outside work. Personally I don't like any YG on young people I think it's too flash and they fit a more settled and mature audience.

[Makau]

Originally Posted by superdog

I own a construction company and I'm responsible for probably 80% of the sales.

Everything I do is measured. I wear a nice watch. But there is a difference between an 8k$ watch and a 30k$ watch.

I drive a nice car too. But nothing too flashy. When I drove a Range Rover I received endless comments. Now in a jeep SRT, I've only gotten one comment and it was a compliment on my judgement.

I wear nice, comfortable clean clothes. I walked into a warehouse once in a suit. A warehouse where they store $290 t-shirts. And my contact asked me if I thought I was better than him.

As Ken mentioned earlier, it depends largely on the environment. But everything we do is a sale. And right or wrong, a 21 year old kid wearing an expensive gold watch, does send a message. The question for the OP is what type of message us he sending and how is it being received.

I could not agree more to this post. 👍


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[cmjk]

Two philosophies in sales - don't flaunt it as customer might think you are over charging

[handsfull]

Originally Posted by Aeternitas

Right, but the watch was basically what triggered them to dig deeper in this scenario. Would they have dug into it eventually? Maybe. Maybe not. But the watch was what set off the chain of events in this scenario. Guy doesn't wear the watch to the meeting, he may indeed have been able to "make money forever with a bad business model". And the OP even mentions that he got funny looks from a customer. I would think that it's pretty safe to say that wearing a flashy gold watch that pretty much screams "look at me, I'm expensive" will probably have more net negatives than positives. I would triple those negatives for someone who is 21.

Originally Posted by Aeternitas

The alternative doesn't have to mean living and dressing like a pauper. The differentiating factor is the flashiness of the yellow gold Rolex here. A Gold GMT is the type of watch that is pretty much designed to draw attention to itself. It's the sort of thing that can catch someone's eye from across the room. A bespoke suit isn't going to jump out at someone like that unless it has some crazy pattern. Driving something you take pride in doesn't have to mean driving a Ferrari or a Porsche to a prospective client meeting. You may be able to pull this off after establishing yourself with the client (although I'd still caution against it), but from the original post, it sounds like he's recently started and is still meeting clients, including one who he admits gave him funny looks (supposedly) due to the watch.

Originally Posted by superdog

I own a construction company and I'm responsible for probably 80% of the sales.

Everything I do is measured. I wear a nice watch. But there is a difference between an 8k$ watch and a 30k$ watch.

I drive a nice car too. But nothing too flashy. When I drove a Range Rover I received endless comments. Now in a jeep SRT, I've only gotten one comment and it was a compliment on my judgement.

I wear nice, comfortable clean clothes. I walked into a warehouse once in a suit. A warehouse where they store $290 t-shirts. And my contact asked me if I thought I was better than him.

As Ken mentioned earlier, it depends largely on the environment. But everything we do is a sale. And right or wrong, a 21 year old kid wearing an expensive gold watch, does send a message. The question for the OP is what type of message us he sending and how is it being received.

All 3 posts = Well said.

The points made above are indisputable. If you don't understand them, it's probably because you don't have enough time on the planet (your age), or your just not paying attention.

[Dubarzy]

I will never understand the mentality of "you're selling me something, and I see that you own something expensive, therefore you are probably ripping me off". If the OP is offering a superior product or service at a competitive price, then who cares about the watch?? I'm not going to pay the guy with the Timex more for the same product just because he's wearing a Timex! At the end of the day, it's all about the bottom line!

[Onikage]

I say good for you but people who are struggling to pay for Christmas might resent the idea of their payment free car/s on your wrist. With a works Christmas party coming up I'm wondering if it will cause future difficulties should anyone spot this. I don't own the place. A part of me thinks stuff it, I'm wearing my damn best watch. I've been working such long hours I haven't had sufficient time/environment/energy to wear anything other than my Reebok, Sekonda or my other banged up work watch for most of the year - Sadly it's unlikely anyone present will understand this predicament and unless I keep it covered I'll likely be asked where my Lamborgini is or if I have a yacht.

[997.2]

Originally Posted by Onikage

I say good for you but people who are struggling to pay for Christmas might resent the idea of their payment free car/s on your wrist. With a works Christmas party coming up I'm wondering if it will cause future difficulties should anyone spot this. I don't own the place. A part of me thinks stuff it, I'm wearing my damn best watch. I've been working such long hours I haven't had sufficient time/environment/energy to wear anything other than my Reebok, Sekonda or my other banged up work watch for most of the year - Sadly it's unlikely anyone present will understand this predicament and unless I keep it covered I'll likely be asked where my Lamborgini is or if I have a yacht.

You get it

Don't think OP "gets" it.

I'm in my 20's. Frankly I would feel absolutely ridiculous wearing that to work let alone a client meeting.


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[ratty]

Originally Posted by 997.2

You get it

Don't think OP "gets" it.

I'm in my 20's. Frankly I would feel absolutely ridiculous wearing that to work let alone a client meeting.


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Having read right through this thread there are so many (too many) replies that I would like to quote.

As I expected, there appears to be a bit of a split between the American way of looking at things and the views of those from other countries. In my experience Americans take a ' well done, good for you, don't worry about what others think' sort of attitude. Yes I know that this is a big generalisation! Often the attitude in other countries is different.

I think the above quote says a lot. I find it strange that a 21 year old in sales is surprised by others seeing a gold watch and initialled cuffs as negative. I often work with employees of one of the world's biggest pharmaceutical companies which happens to be America based, VERY successful people, but I can not remember ever seeing a man from that company wearing a gold watch. It's not the image they want to put over. My wife works for one of the bigger employers in the UK in their personnel and training department and when I asked her what her view on this was and it was very negative.

I know it's none of my business but I would like to know how the op paid for his watch and shirts? At 21 I had just finished my engineering apprenticeship and didn't have 2 pennies to rub together! If you have worked and paid for them himself at 21, well done, you are doing far better than I did. If someone has bought them for you, by which I mean you did not earn the money that paid for them yourself, TO ME, you are making yourself look very silly.

What someone looks like or wears should not matter, but to, I suspect, to the majority of people it does. You don't get a second chance at creating a first impression and I suspect that most people's first impression of a 21 year old wearing a gold watch and monogrammed shirt would be negative.

[ghjin]

Two philosophies in sales - don't flaunt it as customer might think you are over charging

[Old Geezer]

Great read through this thread with many valid perspectives. My 2 cents are as follows: Most of us philosophically believe the OP should be able tower the watch with no baggage BUT we realize this is not a perfectly unbiased world we live in and more times than not wearing it will garner a negative reaction. In the workplace, this could have very bad consequences. On the weekend, not so much.
I think any large, YG watch would elicit a similar response but if it carries the Rolex name you just jumped to a whole other level of disdain from the haters, jealous and insecure judges.

[beer]

this is why i go for AP when into gold rolex price ranges, then if anyone does spot it they will probably be a watch person themselves and understand the reasons for wearing it

i have similar issues with not just gold but any rolex (one reason i chose an exp2-least rolex looking to an untrained eye) like the OP, once a bit older, could probably pull off a gold rolex

[Mystro]

Go for it. Age has nothing to do with it. Never be ashamed of having the good taste of wearing a classy watch. It's a style thing and NOT a money thing.

Every now and then these threads pop up. 'Can I wear X brand of watch in this environment?" The underlining question and answer is always....."is your character and sense of style strong enough to ever wear a object you have to question?" You wear the object, the object doesn't wear you. If you are worried what other people think then the watch is wearing you. This separates the "posers" from those that are masters of their own world.

[Watch@ddict]

Independent of how the owner feels about the watch, i believe there's a lot of envy and bitterness that other people (people who see the watch that do not own one) feel when they see something like that, and to see it on someone younger than them adds insult to injury.

It makes absolutely no sense, since they obviously don't understand your circumstances and they only have themselves to blame about their position in life, but I would advocate that as defensive position to keep the peace, a SS rolex is probably the best way to go if you're client facing, at least till you're in your mid thirties.

[Livermoron]

One of the top performers in my company is a woman who wears a yellow gold president. I know she clears 7 digits a year income no problem. Hasn't hurt her business yet. I wear my 14060m discreetly. In 4 months now only one person has noticed it and that was a guy at the annual Christmas party last week. I've made it a point to talk to my co workers whe I see them wearing a Rolex.