What is up with the Yachmaster?

[Juclaq]

I have to say that it is a bezel

[DP63]

I lusted after a YM for a very long time, started out with not being able to see a new one in the flesh being my first issue, then I moved on to the pre-loved market and found the model I liked, 11662, while I thought about it over a month out of country the pre-loved prices hiked from around £5k to £6k and above in some cases, and even today I can see a 4 yr old watch at £7,500 on line ..... for that reason, I took a very big step back as I didnt lust after it enough to justify the hike that came as a result of the SS shortage ... which probably tells me it may not have lasted very long in my collection and was possibly a fleeting romance as opposed to a long term relationship watch after all.

[Mystro]

What’s wrong with liking a particular model because you can?? No justification needed.

You don’t see women debating which cut of diamond is better and have to give data to back up their opinion.......

[tyler1980]

Originally Posted by Mystro

What’s wrong with liking a particular model because you can?? No justification needed.

You don’t see women debating which cut of diamond is better and have to give data to back up their opinion.......:thinking:

clearly you have never been to an engagement party

[Auto16610]

Originally Posted by Mystro

What’s wrong with liking a particular model because you can?? No justification needed.

You don’t see women debating which cut of diamond is better and have to give data to back up their opinion.......

I've never thought about it like that, but that's so true! Buy and wear what YOU like!

[TTWHTD]

I love mine but I must admit that I don't wear it that often. I wear my sub daily. Gets great compliments when I do wear it though! It was my first so I doubt I would sell it.

[superdog]

Originally Posted by TTWHTD

I love mine but I must admit that I don't wear it that often. I wear my sub daily. Gets great compliments when I do wear it though! It was my first so I doubt I would sell it.

that looks so good, it makes me want to get one in blue.

[MrWeha]

Have to agree with what others already said: it's just too feminine.

The 116655 is a winner though.

[Romeomikehotel]

My first was a YM, I was a fool and switched it for a two-tone GMT.

Came back to my senses and don’t think I’ll ever get rid of it.




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[Brew]

“Yacht” is a state of mind.



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[Highjinx]

Great watch. What dial. Shame it's a little more pricey. Does seem to have better availability too. Next on my list and may even swap my 16710 for one.

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[tyler1980]

Originally Posted by Highjinx

Great watch. What dial. Shame it's a little more pricey. Does seem to have better availability too. Next on my list and may even swap my 16710 for one.

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if people start looking at it like DJ bezels and that price difference (smooth bezel vs fluted) then the price difference between a YM and a Sub makes more sense.

A YM costs £2250 more than a sub and has a Pt bezel where as a DJ 41 fluted (white gold) bezel costs £1450 more than a smooth bezel. Platinum always costs more than gold in watches so the rest of the difference can be attributed to that and that its 950Pt vs 750 AU.

[mrricks]

I guess we need Jocke to get out his micrometer and measure the case back thickness of both watches.

Unless there is a significant difference, I don’t think it matters regarding depth rating.

[Superburrito]

A YM was my first rolex. Had it for many years and loved it! Very understated, but supremely versatile. I went scuba diving with it, did alpine climbing, and wore it to my wedding.

That said, I think it is due for a refresh!

[Chas58]

Originally Posted by tyler1980

the sub has a thicker case back. The rest of the case is functionally the same AFIAK. They are obviously different shaped oyster cases too, but that doesnt have anything to do with anything.

Holding a sub (or even a GMT) with a YM, the Yacht is a noticeably thinner profile, and wears more comfortably on my wrist. Looking at the profiles, the YM case has a profile that looks to me to be more similar to the OP, rather than the Sub/GMT. As I recall the case back on the sub was a little thicker too.


For reference:
The sub and Milgauss are 13mm thick
The GMT is 12.4 mm (it looked to me like the same case as the SUB, but a slimmer case back).
The YM and the Date Just are 11.6 and 11.7mm thick

The water resistance thing is kind of funny. Yeah, in the 70’s I found the water proofness and accuracy pretty important, but these days I (and everyone) dive with a dive computer. I do take watches diving, but geeze, I’m not going down more than 60 feet…

For me the Sub is just to stale, too much of a cliché, and a bit too thick on the wrist. The YM really does need that black bezel though (aka rose gold bezel) I’m in the market for a blue dial YM if anyone wants to sell one. ;-)

[mrricks]

All other things being equal, I doubt that 1.5 mm thickness difference would affect water resistance.

My new YM that I got after retiring my Sub 1680.
I love it. I think it’s the most unique Rolex having platinum bezel, insert and dial, IMHO


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[CRM114]

Originally Posted by mrricks

All other things being equal, I doubt that 1.5 mm thickness difference would affect water resistance.

It's actually a .075 difference of thickness and resistance to deforming/bending inwards under pressure.

Why do you doubt it?

[173rdabn]

I've always liked it. Came close a couple of years ago, sorry I didn't.

[Chas58]

Originally Posted by Singslinger

…However, I've been told that one reason why it may not be that popular is that the bezel scratches easily and is very costly to replace since it's platinum.

There are threads here on people getting them refinished. They do look kinda worn after 5 years (the matt part between the numbers gets shiny) You can buy a SS bezel for ~$50, or OEM Platinum for $285

... most people don't have a yacht that needs mastering. Personally, I'd feel like a tool if I owned a yachtmaster minus the yacht.

Funny! I race yachts, I but don’t need the watch for that. We use something digital (or a stop watch) for timing when the gun goes off. But during a 300 mile race, good lume is important to know when your night shift is going to end.

I dive, but no one uses a watch for diving – that is what dive computers are for.

As for price, all used models gravitate towards the SS price. If the Rolex is not SS, it is overpriced. So a Platinum YM ends up priced where a SS sub would be – maybe less for the albinoish version YM.

[VicLeChic]

Originally Posted by Chas58

As for price, all used models gravitate towards the SS price. If the Rolex is not SS, it is overpriced. So a Platinum YM ends up priced where a SS sub would be – maybe less for the albinoish version YM.

When I bought my YM 116622 platinum dial in 2015, the retail price was 11,350 euros where I live. All ADs would give me a 15% discount, nothing more. My grail, loved the look on my wrist, the fit was perfect. So I went online and got it new and stickered full set from an Italian grey seller on Chrono24. It cost me....wait for it.... 7,650 euros (all taxes and shipping included). That's a whopping 33% off for a new piece. Preowned ones were barely cheaper, just not worth it. But that was 3 years ago and boy has it changed since, with the whole madness. I saw one the other day advertised on eBay new stickered full set for 12K USD (the same platinum dial ref 116622).

[Chas58]

Originally Posted by VicLeChic

When I bought my YM 116622 platinum dial in 2015, the retail price was 11,350 euros where I live. All ADs would give me a 15% discount, nothing more. My grail, loved the look on my wrist, the fit was perfect. So I went online and got it new and stickered full set from an Italian grey seller on Chrono24. It cost me....wait for it.... 7,650 euros (all taxes and shipping included). That's a whopping 33% off for a new piece. Preowned ones were barely cheaper, just not worth it. But that was 3 years ago and boy has it changed since, with the whole madness. I saw one the other day advertised on eBay new stickered full set for 12K USD (the same platinum dial ref 116622).

Wow, that is amazing and depressing. I've read here of people getting a YM at 15-20% off at their AD, but mine is sticking to retail. Looks like a mint condition used one goes for 9k-10K in the used market these days.

[Xxmikeyb]

I personally think it would look so much better on a brown leather strap.

[DoctorA]

I actually really like the YM and YM II
very unique watches.

[blue lion]

I like the YMII, would never consider the YM.

[uansari1]

Was offered a blue dial 116622 today for around USD 8,800 because I don’t have to pay VAT here in Turkey. Just not sure it’s singing to me.


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[R!$]

its not a dress watch and not a sports watch

[UnicoJG]

It’s an acquired taste, just like the Cellini.

[RTG]

YM is the sub for beautiful people. Bought one for my beautiful wife. The higher price seems to really bug the sub-only crowd.

[tyler1980]

Originally Posted by RTG

YM is the sub for beautiful people. Bought one for my beautiful wife. The higher price seems to really bug the sub-only crowd.

i have no idea why. Its different and there are objective and explainable reasons why.

[Romeomikehotel]

Originally Posted by RTG

YM is the sub for beautiful people. The higher price seems to really bug the sub-only crowd.

The Sub is the Chevy Tahoe 4x4 to the YM’s Escalade AWD.