Rolex vs omega quality

[russ86]

From someone who started collecting watches with Omega I will tel you this, Rolex hands down does a better quality watches and much better bracelets.

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Originally Posted by ChipotleBanana

I will bet you $1,000 no replica is made of 904L since no other brand has done so.

Where can I collect my $1,000?

https://shop.ballwatch.ch/en/Icebreaker-PM3030C-S-BK

[kieselguhr]

Originally Posted by ChipotleBanana

I will bet you $1,000 no replica is made of 904L since no other brand has done so.

Forget Ball, or GP, or Seiko (JDM). Even micro brands use 904L

https://www.steinhartwatches.de/en/o...emium-904.html

I won’t be mentioning his statement as it’s against forum rules, but they are definitely out there.

You going to pay him that $1000?

[Driver8]

Originally Posted by ChipotleBanana

I will bet you $1,000 no replica is made of 904L since no other brand has done so.

There's a few out there. Even Steinhart are making a 904L watch these days, and selling it for a mere £770 - https://www.steinhartwatches.de/en/d...emium-904.html

[JRell]

I had a speedmaster. Just didn’t feel like the same quality as Rolex. Lighter, bracelet felt more flimsy. Wanted to like it, looked cool, legendary status, just wasn’t for me.

[Clockwork24]

You can’t possibly compare Omega to Rolex.

[Jack T]

Originally Posted by Clockwork24

You can’t possibly compare Omega to Rolex.

In your opinion, perhaps not favorably, but one certainly can compare the two.

[asiparks]

Originally Posted by ChipotleBanana

I will bet you $1,000 no replica is made of 904L since no other brand has done so.

You are very wrong. I'll take my $1000 in cash please.

I'll pm you

[watchmavan]

Originally Posted by LFFL

The oyster bracelet on my 14060M feels a bit flimsy and cheap which is the reason why i'd like to add the sub41 since it feels much more robust. Though never had any experience with Omega-- just here to soak up some knowledge

I wonder how much real knowledge is presented on a Rolex forum asking how they stack up against Omega. A very small percentage imo.


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[asiparks]

Originally Posted by watchmavan

I wonder how much real knowledge is presented on a Rolex forum asking how they stack up against Omega. A very small percentage imo.


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probably not a lot.
a mixture of invention, wishful thinking, memories of models from 20 years ago...Those that genuinely own a modern Omega seem to rather like them.

Funny how it's always a two horse race between Rolex vs Omega- In that same price range, you have compelling offerings from IWC, Blancpain, Breguet, JLC, GO, GS etc....

[Dirt]

Originally Posted by asiparks

Knowing that the $400 fake Rolex are also made from 904 makes the steel just a little less special.

For the life of me, I am struggling with the concept behind people being able to tell the difference between 316 and 904 just by looking at it or even through basic tests on a watch.

I know I can't tell the difference and I work with the stuff. Unless we have it clearly written on the 904 and put aside in a special place in the w/shop
We can't afford to have a mix up with someone grabbing a piece of 316 and using it in an application where 904 is going to be superior and better suited

[Dirt]

Originally Posted by watchmavan

I wonder how much real knowledge is presented on a Rolex forum asking how they stack up against Omega. A very small percentage imo.


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Agreed
It all comes down to perception and value for money or what style is more appealing.

[Driver8]

Originally Posted by Clockwork24

You can’t possibly compare Omega to Rolex.

Genuine question - in what way do you think they can’t possibly be compared?

[Brny11]

Originally Posted by Driver8

Genuine question - in what way do you think they can’t possibly be compared?

Most genuinely prefer Rolex and that is okay. Others think Rolex is a badge of honor and no other brand can compare

However, to disregard the quality of Rolex competitors is simply ignorant. Pointless to argue with these people. They are entitled to their opinion, but it is typical vanity IMO.

[Marcjvr]

Originally Posted by Brny11

Most genuinely prefer Rolex and that is okay. Others think Rolex is a badge of honor and no other brand can compare

However, to disregard the quality of Rolex competitors is simply ignorant. Pointless to argue with these people. They are entitled to their opinion, but it is typical vanity IMO.

Amen

[Driver8]

Originally Posted by Brny11

Most genuinely prefer Rolex and that is okay. Others think Rolex is a badge of honor and no other brand can compare

However, to disregard the quality of Rolex competitors is simply ignorant. Pointless to argue with these people. They are entitled to their opinion, but it is typical vanity IMO.

Oh I completely agree with you. I was just genuinely interested in hearing that posters reasoning behind why he believes they can’t possibly be compared. I’m always open to well reasoned discourse!

[MiamiLSUfan]

I have a DJ 41 and Submariner 41. I received the white dial Seamaster Professional as a gift for Father’s Day. Have to tell you that the quality of this specific Omega is top notch. They really paid attention to detail. I have the Omega rubber strap so don’t know about the steel bracelet. But the dial is incredible and movement is ahead of the game. That’s my only experience with Omega. But very high quality IMO.

[fdm79]

Originally Posted by VogelPhoenix

I would not trade my 321 for any current production SS Rolex.

Neither would I !!

In fact, as a long time Rolex aficcionado and after getting my first Speedy (3861), I wouldn't trade any Speedy Moonwatch version, (321/1861/3861/Snoopy Silver Award), for absolutely ANY Rolex model (disregarding resale value).

Many people here say "I own both and ROLEX is much better... "
Well... I also happen to own both and I don't think it is much better, IF better at all. This is all subjective and tendencious. Not to mention, the opinions here bashing Omega by people who actually don't own any Omega. And I almost forgot... how NASA, Rolex, Omega, Boeing and countless industries could "benefit" from all Metallurgy and Siderurgy knowledge from TRF PHDs...

Threads like this with blind "fanboyism" somehow build more antipathy with the brand although it's not Rolex fault. People are talking about Rolex "class" but as a matter of fact, it's quite the opposite. Rolex is more and more becoming a rich nouveau product. It's getting more and more tacky, particularly with this new show off Z generation individuals.

[JRell]

Originally Posted by fdm79

Neither would I !!

In fact, as a long time Rolex aficcionado and after getting my first Speedy (3861), I wouldn't trade any Speedy Moonwatch version, (321/1861/3861/Snoopy Silver Award), for absolutely ANY Rolex model (disregarding resale value).

Many people here say "I own both and ROLEX is much better... "
Well... I also happen to own both and I don't think it is much better, IF better at all. This is all subjective and tendencious. Not to mention, the opinions here bashing Omega by people who actually don't own any Omega. And I almost forgot... how NASA, Rolex, Omega, Boeing and countless industries are missing Metallurgy and Siderurgy knowledge from TRF PHDs...

Threads like this with blind "fanboyism" somehow build more antipathy with the brand although it's not Rolex fault. People are talking about Rolex "class" but as a matter of fact, it's quite the opposite. Rolex is more and more becoming a rich nouveau product. It's getting more and more tacky, particularly with this new show off Z generation individuals.

Tried to stay out of this - it pulled me back in! For me I had omega, along with other brands like JLC and Breitling. To me Rolex and JLC just feels more quality to me. As example with the speedmaster, I don’t like the weight. I am sure heavier doesn’t mean better, but for me I like to feel something more substantial on my wrist. I actually just tried the new version, new bracelet, same thing, it felt very light weight to me. I do like the look of the speedmaster, the seamaster not so much. If that is being a fanboy, I then I guess I am guilty as charged!

[fdm79]

Originally Posted by JRell

Tried to stay out of this - it pulled me back in! For me I had omega, along with other brands like JLC and Breitling. To me Rolex and JLC just feels more quality to me. As example with the speedmaster, I don’t like the weight. I am sure heavier doesn’t mean better, but for me I like to feel something more substantial on my wrist. I actually just tried the new version, new bracelet, same thing, it felt very light weight to me. I do like the look of the speedmaster, the seamaster not so much. If that is being a fanboy, I then I guess I am guilty as charged!

Your point is very valid although I don't remember mentioning you or others who simply stated a personal preference rather than just saying "You simply can't compare both", "Rolex is better because it doesn't have too many different models"... and that's all... If you read the whole thread, trust me, you'll find many who gave very "bright and insightful" arguments like this. As I said above, it's subjective and you gave your personal points ! Pretty perfect. The new 3861 feels indeed too light. Could be almost confused with titanium and just like you, I also prefer having something more hefty but many are confusing weight with quality. Fanboyism is not preference for one brand. It's simply putting a brand on top based on its image and not giving enough arguments, real experience or knowledge when comparing it with other brands.

[JRell]

Originally Posted by fdm79

Your point is very valid although I don't remember mentioning you or others who simply stated a personal preference rather than just saying "You simply can't compare both", "Rolex is better because it doesn't have too many different models"... and that's all... If you read the whole thread, trust me, you'll find many who gave very "bright and insightful" arguments like this. As I said above, it's subjective and you gave your personal points ! Pretty perfect. The new 3861 feels indeed too light. Could be almost confused with titanium and just like you, I also prefer having something more hefty but many are confusing weight with quality. Fanboyism is not preference for one brand. It's simply putting a brand on top based on its image and not giving enough arguments, real experience or knowledge when comparing it with other brands.

Completely agree. This now has me looking up speedmasters again lol. I am also looking at VC overseas as well. I really do love Rolex, but there are many great brands out there.

[fdm79]

Originally Posted by JRell

Completely agree. This now has me looking up speedmasters again lol. I am also looking at VC overseas as well. I really do love Rolex, but there are many great brands out there.

That's nice ! Speedy IMO is a must but we shouldn't expect the same hefty experience compared to a Sub... or a GMT

And the funny thing since you mentioned the other brands you owned, you see how subjective things are... but I find my Navitimer 01 slightly above both Rolex and Omega (the ones I experienced) when it comes to overall quality (finishing) and attention to detail. The movement is also fantastic. I'm sure it's not sturdy in comparison. but it feels more like a jewelry to me and Omega(s) and Rolex(s) feel more resistant tool watches.

[JRell]

Originally Posted by fdm79

Your point is very valid although I don't remember mentioning you or others who simply stated a personal preference rather than just saying "You simply can't compare both", "Rolex is better because it doesn't have too many different models"... and that's all... If you read the whole thread, trust me, you'll find many who gave very "bright and insightful" arguments like this. As I said above, it's subjective and you gave your personal points ! Pretty perfect. The new 3861 feels indeed too light. Could be almost confused with titanium and just like you, I also prefer having something more hefty but many are confusing weight with quality. Fanboyism is not preference for one brand. It's simply putting a brand on top based on its image and not giving enough arguments, real experience or knowledge when comparing it with other brands.

Originally Posted by fdm79

That's nice ! Speedy IMO is a must but we shouldn't expect the same hefty experience compared to a Sub... or a GMT

And the funny thing since you mentioned the other brands you owned, you see how subjective things are... but I find my Navitimer 01 slightly above both Rolex and Omega (the ones I experienced) when it comes to overall quality (finishing) and attention to detail. The movement is also fantastic. I'm sure it's not sturdy in comparison. but it feels more like a jewelry to me and Omega(s) and Rolex(s) feel more resistant tool watches.

So the Nav 01 has also been on my list. I had a super avenger, was way too big. Good to know about the details. I am waiting for my GMT to come in, but need to check it out while I wait.

[fdm79]

Originally Posted by JRell

So the Nav 01 has also been on my list. I had a super avenger, was way too big. Good to know about the details. I am waiting for my GMT to come in, but need to check it out while I wait.

Please do it ! Funny how my Navi 01 acquisition came when I was waiting for my BLRO
I remember being bored and impatient waiting so I had the brilliant idea to go see one and I swear I was very sure I would come out of the boutique empty handed

I was VERY wrong. It's a love or hate watch... and I simply fell in love with it.
IMO, Sub/GMT/Speedy/Navi are absolute Icons ! They all have a very nice heritage.

Sorry for the off topic
My heart has room for many brands

[JRell]

Originally Posted by fdm79

Please do it ! Funny how my Navi 01 acquisition came when I was waiting for my BLRO
I remember being bored and impatient waiting so I had the brilliant idea to go see one and I swear I was very sure I would come out of the boutique empty handed

I was VERY wrong. It's a love or hate watch... and I simply fell in love with it.
IMO, Sub/GMT/Speedy/Navi are absolute Icons ! They all have a very nice heritage.

Sorry for the off topic
My heart has room for many brands

Those 4 are a VERY tough team to beat! Living legends. Good talk got some inspiration out of this thread!