TT - Why are they unwanted on the secondary market?

[WJGESQ]

The GMT Cs look great in two tone. I wonder how that gold holds up after years of wear? Do the gold and TT models tend to show more wear and tear?

[masterserg]

Originally Posted by WJGESQ

The GMT Cs look great in two tone. I wonder how that gold holds up after years of wear? Do the gold and TT models tend to show more wear and tear?

Gold is very soft, it will scratch / scuff easier than SS.

[rooted]

I simply find the two tone to be a repugnant combination that doesn't appeal to me, much like any Hublot. Especially the blue two tone submariners which have become the poster children of retiree wrist watches. However, if a person enjoys a certain combination of metals, styles, sizes, etc... Then let it be, however they shouldn't take offense when somebody scoffs at their choice of a time piece. After all it shouldn't be of any concern to oneself what another thinks of his wristwatch if not for the sake of vanity and hurt pride.

[Keeperoftime]

Originally Posted by The Joker

TT is a dated 80's look, and you are just advertising the fact that you can't afford the full gold version.

And while I'm at it I think you can only pull off a full gold watch with gold bracelet if you are Tony Soprano or Elle Macpherson.

A gold watch with leather strap is hot though, not too over the top.

Stick with SS, it rules!

I'm 26 and not Tony Soprano and wear YG DDs. I think you can pull it off if you have--moving on. TT in my opinion in the saving up for the president watch :)

[Galaxy]

Originally Posted by rooted

I simply find the two tone to be a repugnant combination that doesn't appeal to me, much like any Hublot. Especially the blue two tone submariners which have become the poster children of retiree wrist watches. However, if a person enjoys a certain combination of metals, styles, sizes, etc... Then let it be, however they shouldn't take offense when somebody scoffs at their choice of a time piece. After all it shouldn't be of any concern to oneself what another thinks of his wristwatch if not for the sake of vanity and hurt pride.

The TT or Rolesor Rolex combo is the most sought after in the world. More than 90% of all Rolex watches sold are TT!

That makes an awful lot of Rolex owners, in fact the majority, with "repugnant" taste!!!

What is "repugnant" is your rudeness!

[Oyster1982]

Originally Posted by Galaxy

The TT or Rolesor Rolex combo is the most sought after in the world. More than 90% of all Rolex watches sold are TT!

That makes an awful lot of Rolex owners, in fact the majority, with "repugnant" taste!!!

What is "repugnant" is your rudeness!

If TT was unpopular Rolex would not make there watches in TT. When I am in an AD I see more TT models than SS or full gold.

[Maxseven]

My take is that the TT is wanted on the secondary market, just the same as the Stainless or White Gold models are. Although, in my observation, for some reason, there seems to be a lot more used TT's available than stainless. Since there are more available, the used TT watches have lower resale prices. Clearly a supply/demand phenomena.

As for why there are more TT's in the used market? Not sure. Maybe people sell them because they don't want to exhibit conspicuous consumption? A gold watch is certainly more 'flashy' than a SS watch. Perhaps it is because the TT's are very popular, thus Rolex has sold a lot more of them than the SS models, creating a surplus?

[Rockrolex]

Originally Posted by rooted

I simply find the two tone to be a repugnant combination that doesn't appeal to me, much like any Hublot. Especially the blue two tone submariners which have become the poster children of retiree wrist watches. However, if a person enjoys a certain combination of metals, styles, sizes, etc... Then let it be, however they shouldn't take offense when somebody scoffs at their choice of a time piece. After all it shouldn't be of any concern to oneself what another thinks of his wristwatch if not for the sake of vanity and hurt pride.

I suggest you may want to tone down your comments. What is "repugnant" to you may be appealing to others. You would have done fine if you had left out your "repugnant" comment and merely stated that it doesn't appeal to you.

Bear that in mind as you continue to post here - assuming you want to continue to be able to post here.

[TonyD]

Originally Posted by dnagwhogas

I prefer the TT GMTC over the SS model though. But that's just me.

I agree, this is the exception. The TT GMTC is amazing.

[dpkong]

i bought a pre-owned TT Daytona instead of a SS one because it was cheaper and now i find myself looking for another TT model. i sure hope that TT prices stay lower than SS because i think TT is growing on me!

in fact, i am now searching for a "repugnant" TT Sub because i tried on a 16613 and simply love it over the 16610!

[never2late]

Originally Posted by Rockrolex

I suggest you may want to tone down your comments. What is "repugnant" to you may be appealing to others. You would have done fine if you had left out your "repugnant" comment and merely stated that it doesn't appeal to you.

Bear that in mind as you continue to post here - assuming you want to continue to be able to post here.

Thank you ROCKROLEX, well said. If I told him what I thought of his comments I would have gotten into trouble. His seventh post since May 2011 and he's already managed to insult a good number of forum members. Apparently some people just don't understand what being rude means.

[Spartan]

Personally, I think ALL (well most) Rolex watches are beautiful.

I have a YG DD, GMTII TT, SUB-c TT and DSSD.

Does my watch collection mean that I like GOLD.... Heck yaaaaa!

I had a chance to pick up a second hand all gold SUB at a killer price....Just couldn't pull the trigger!
I think owning two all gold Rollies is , dare I say, over the board ?...

I actually still enjoy wearing the DD, all 36mm of it!
A true classic, timeless watch.

[Harrya]

Originally Posted by rooted

I simply find the two tone to be a repugnant combination that doesn't appeal to me, much like any Hublot. Especially the blue two tone submariners which have become the poster children of retiree wrist watches. However, if a person enjoys a certain combination of metals, styles, sizes, etc... Then let it be, however they shouldn't take offense when somebody scoffs at their choice of a time piece. After all it shouldn't be of any concern to oneself what another thinks of his wristwatch if not for the sake of vanity and hurt pride.

Simply put your comments are beyond stupid and meant to flame. At the risk of sounding egotistical I will tell you that I'm 55 and currently own three Rolex's...a 10 year old 18Kt DD....a new TT DJ II and a five year old SS Sub. I really like all of them but I wear the TT the most and find that it fits all situations. I have been wearing the Rolex brand since I was given one at 18 and even at that age I never thought a TT or all gold was despicable. To suggest that any watch made of any material is repugnant shows how narrowminded and encapsulated you must be. I can only imagine that people of your "ilk" put down precious metal watches because you simply can't afford one so due to your limited ability to appreciate what you can't have you find it easier to blast those that can have....

Ok....let the fireworks begin.....

[frank32]

Originally Posted by MortgageGuy

Only in the USA is SS valued higher than precious metals IMHO

6 out of 7 dwarfs are not happy,FACT.

[LightOnAHill]

I think the two tone jubilee Rose Gold datejust is hawt

[Jinder]

Originally Posted by Harrya

Simply put your comments are beyond stupid and meant to flame. At the risk of sounding egotistical I will tell you that I'm 55 and currently own three Rolex's...a 10 year old 18Kt DD....a new TT DJ II and a five year old SS Sub. I really like all of them but I wear the TT the most and find that it fits all situations. I have been wearing the Rolex brand since I was given one at 18 and even at that age I never thought a TT or all gold was despicable. To suggest that any watch made of any material is repugnant shows how narrowminded and encapsulated you must be. I can only imagine that people of your "ilk" put down precious metal watches because you simply can't afford one so due to your limited ability to appreciate what you can't have you find it easier to blast those that can have....

Ok....let the fireworks begin.....

Well wrote and 100% agree.

[masterserg]

Originally Posted by Jinder

Well wrote and 100% agree.

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[chicfarmer1]

I haven't read all the comments but wanted to add that many women see the TT as a great option because it allows for matching with jewelry of various hues. This is a big consideration for many gals when buying.

This wasn't my choice personally, but I certainly get it.

[Harrya]

Originally Posted by masterserg

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Thanks!

[Oyster1982]

Originally Posted by chicfarmer1

I haven't read all the comments but wanted to add that many women see the TT as a great option because it allows for matching with jewelry of various hues. This is a big consideration for many gals when buying.

This wasn't my choice personally, but I certainly get it.

Here is my combo, my TT DJ looks good with my YG/WG ring. It has a small diamond in the wg part.

[rooted]

Originally Posted by Harrya

Simply put your comments are beyond stupid and meant to flame. At the risk of sounding egotistical I will tell you that I'm 55 and currently own three Rolex's...a 10 year old 18Kt DD....a new TT DJ II and a five year old SS Sub. I really like all of them but I wear the TT the most and find that it fits all situations. I have been wearing the Rolex brand since I was given one at 18 and even at that age I never thought a TT or all gold was despicable. To suggest that any watch made of any material is repugnant shows how narrowminded and encapsulated you must be. I can only imagine that people of your "ilk" put down precious metal watches because you simply can't afford one so due to your limited ability to appreciate what you can't have you find it easier to blast those that can have....

Ok....let the fireworks begin.....

To think another another mans opinion riled up such a nonsensical and poorly thought out response, it's almost flattering.

[sleddog]

Originally Posted by rooted

To think another another mans opinion riled up such a nonsensical and poorly thought out response, it's almost flattering.

What is poor, is your tone and ability to communicate with others...
This type of communication is not acceptable or tolerated!!

It's quite easy to post with a simple respect, and not distain.....Clearly you don't know the difference!

You were warned earlier....

[yemenmocha]

Love TT, especially old school Submariner Bluesy, Daytona, and DJ.

[Galaxy]

Originally Posted by Maxseven

My take is that the TT is wanted on the secondary market, just the same as the Stainless or White Gold models are. Although, in my observation, for some reason, there seems to be a lot more used TT's available than stainless. Since there are more available, the used TT watches have lower resale prices. Clearly a supply/demand phenomena.

As for why there are more TT's in the used market? Not sure. Maybe people sell them because they don't want to exhibit conspicuous consumption? A gold watch is certainly more 'flashy' than a SS watch. Perhaps it is because the TT's are very popular, thus Rolex has sold a lot more of them than the SS models, creating a surplus?

Most Rolex watches sold are TT, so it makes simple sense that there would be more available on the resale market!

[never2late]

Originally Posted by rooted

To think another another mans opinion riled up such a nonsensical and poorly thought out response, it's almost flattering.

Are you not getting enough attention in your life that you seek out distain from others?

[Galaxy]

Originally Posted by Oyster1982

Here is my combo, my TT DJ looks good with my YG/WG ring. It has a small diamond in the wg part.

Beautiful combo!

Congrats

[TempoKing]

Originally Posted by Watch Professor

Not too popular in the US, but more popular in Europe. Why? Good question.

Au contraire my dear Myron
The US is the number one buyer of two tones.
In Europe they dislike them with passion and Rolex S/Steel rules.
Prices for used T/Tones there (?)
are selling between... "give them away" to unsaleable..

[Galaxy]

The price of gold has climbed so high that a number of jewellery firms are setting diamonds in sterling silver to make them more affordable.

I think that it really is simply a matter of TT being more available because Rolex sells so many more TT than anything else.

I don't know which countries buy what, but on a pure percentage ratio TT outstrips sales in all other models!

What is really shocking in the resale market is the drop in price of the heavely encrusted diamond watches.

[greg8125]

Originally Posted by The Joker

TT is a dated 80's look, and you are just advertising the fact that you can't afford the full gold version.

And while I'm at it I think you can only pull off a full gold watch with gold bracelet if you are Tony Soprano or Elle Macpherson.

A gold watch with leather strap is hot though, not too over the top.

Stick with SS, it rules!

I would say that 10 or 15 years ago TT was indeed a dated '80s look and SS was really cool. But guess what the SS look will probably become over the next 20 years? A very dated 1990's 2000's look! Particularly after SS reached probably 99.9% of the mens watch market.

I would say that the tide has actually already started to turn, with rosegold, tt, and blacked-out gaining share at the expense of what is now the oh so typical ss. I'm 34 and I used to think that TT was gaudy, but now I'm really starting to think they look great. Especially rosegold TT. I'm not about to start wearing a 100% yg tomorrow (all of my watches are actually ss or titanium) but the tide has definitely turned. It's a gradual change however. Look how long it took for SS to virtually phase out yg and TT in the mass market.

[Strut99GT]

Simple supply/demand. I'd be curious to see figures about TT sales vs. all-stainless vs. all-gold. My perception is TT watches have the greatest sales numbers, therefore the greatest availability pre-owned.

Additionally, the terminology "unwanted" is inaccurate. I believe what you are trying to convey is disproportionate % price drops relative to the stainless models. Mathematically the all-gold watches depreciate more in the second-hand market than TT. Additionally, I think there is an inverse depreciation curve for Rolex relative to the new price. i.e. we are essentially internet watch experts here - the VAST majority of Rolex owners aren't like us. The average person who can afford a Day-Date new isn't looking for a used one, so folks who are OK with used reap the benefit. The scale converges slightly for TT and merges for SS models; you can save a bit for SS pre-owned, but typically not much. The wear-tear commentary from earlier also plays a role.