Sihh 2019

[Ar_Mi]

Originally Posted by HarryLime

15400 vs. 15500

Is it me, or are the bezel nuts/screws a bit bigger on the 15500 than on the 15400?
maybe thats whats making the balance seem a little off to me..

[bruinmd]

Originally Posted by HarryLime

15400 vs. 15500

Nicely done.
Hands down, 15500 for me.

[SpunkyQ8]

Originally Posted by HarryLime

15400 vs. 15500

Thanks you!

[christopheran]

The 15400 hour markers look so much better.


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[HarryLime]

I'm honestly not sure which one I prefer. I like the removal of the 3pm marker on the 15500. Also I like the large "AP" on the 15500.

I'm not sure if this hue of blue is representative of what they look like in real life, and if it is...I still don't know which one I like better. My preference will always be for a lighter, more noticeable blue.

If the 15500 is significantly more expensive, then the 15400 is my preference (assuming I could get either at retail).

[Horolojust]

154 seems more classic and 155 seems more modern and sport I guess, especially with shorter and thicker hour markers, and black dial perimeter.


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[korneevy]

15500 is AP's response to Rolex's maxi case (some 10 years later). It looks like a pregnant 15400 carrying twins. Basically, they've now got 1 watch that everyone wants (15202), and the rest is just the garnish to sell it;)

[V25V]

Originally Posted by korneevy

15500 is AP's response to Rolex's maxi case (some 10 years later). It looks like a pregnant 15400 carrying twins. Basically, they've now got 1 watch that everyone wants (15202), and the rest is just the garnish to sell it;)

That's exactly right, only reason they seem to be keeping it. Only heritage they have left. This is all extremely disappointing to me.


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[Roger Lococco]

The new one looks way better in that comparison.


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[Slider817]

I have the 15400, honestly I don’t have much of a preference between the newer and the older. Thickness change seems like a small ding, but longer power reserve is nice. Aesthetically, both a gorgeous, I would say equal.

Glad to see a change, even though it’s minor.

[GB-man]

I’m told there is more to come. Not sure what though.

[Horolojust]

Originally Posted by GB-man

I’m told there is more to come. Not sure what though.

Maybe white dial 15500?


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[GB-man]

Originally Posted by Horolojust

Maybe white dial 15500?


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Not sure! Def an RD2 based perp ultra thin. Almost certainly more offshores.

[zahain]

The new 15500 dial although nice, will i beleive look larger on the wrist trying to portray a 42-43mm look. Some people find the 41mm borderline due to many having small wrists but i'll hold my view until i see one. Couldn't Francois make his new calibre the same size as the existing 3120? 9.8mm to 10.4 seems like a considerable larger case. Why is the 15400 still showing on the website? are they going to produce the 15400 this year and discontinue it next year?


Also, has everyone forgot the RD #2? I'm shocked to see him not come out with the one of the thinnest perpetual calendars and case.

The only thing i really like is the new salmon dial 39mm jumbo. That will sell out extremely quick and it's only a 75 piece

[RolexZen]

Yep, I don't think the 15500 is a clear winner over the 15400, or vice-versa, even if price remains the same. I favor certain aspects of each, but both are great watches.

But I wonder if the 15500 being a bit thicker helps differentiate the "Extra Thin" Jumbos?

As far as there being no silver/white 15500, I wonder if that's a product of historic demand numbers on the 15400.

[zahain]

I dont think they will come with a white dial 15500. The white dial has always been the slowest seller even though when i saw one i liked the silvery look to it and more interesting than their black and new grey introduction. They fazed out the rose gold 15400 rose gold on a strap so i dont see them introducing a white dial.

[Ar_Mi]

I really wonder why they would make the rose gold 15500 a limited edition.. perhaps a new dial variant will replace the black in the permanent collection, like how they phased out the black RG ROC?

[Horolojust]

My guess; 15500 has same hour markers as this ROC on right. See the difference of hour markers. Also, the AP logo is bigger on 15500 compared to 15400, so again it should be similar to one as on this ROC.


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[Ichiran]

Is the new 4302 calibre used in other APs? Is it good?

I previously sold my 15400 due to the large case which doesn't look good on my 6.5 inch wrist. I probably won't buy the new 15500 due to the similar diameter but thicker case.

[RolexZen]

Originally Posted by Ichiran

I previously sold my 15400 due to the large case which doesn't look good on my 6.5 inch wrist. I probably won't buy the new 15500 due to the similar diameter but thicker case.

Well, that sounds prudent.

[Burlington]

Originally Posted by Ichiran

Is the new 4302 calibre used in other APs? Is it good?

I previously sold my 15400 due to the large case which doesn't look good on my 6.5 inch wrist. I probably won't buy the new 15500 due to the similar diameter but thicker case.

Is it not a brand new movement from the 11:59 range ?

I felt the 400 wore big on me too, but think the new design will wear smaller on the wrist

[mnl]

Originally Posted by Burlington

Is it not a brand new movement from the 11:59 range ?

I felt the 400 wore big on me too, but think the new design will wear smaller on the wrist

You really think the new one will wear smaller? Even though it is a thicker case at a little over 10mm? I would’ve thought that would make it wear even larger!

[Burlington]

Originally Posted by mnl

You really think the new one will wear smaller? Even though it is a thicker case at a little over 10mm? I would’ve thought that would make it wear even larger!

I think so yes - but based more on the dial. From the alternating comparison pic which was posted, the bezel seems to have a bit more thickness to it too.

The visual impression for me is that my diver wears smaller than the 15400 did, am assuming the 15500 aesthetics would have a similar effect.

Until it’s tried on though - speculation !

[uscmatt99]

Sign me up for the 15500 blue dial. The 15400 is a great watch, but the position of the date aperture has always been the giveaway of a movement too small for the case. I like the proportions on the 15500 much better all around, even if it gains a bit of thickness.

[myporsche]

Originally Posted by uscmatt99

Sign me up for the 15500 blue dial. The 15400 is a great watch, but the position of the date aperture has always been the giveaway of a movement too small for the case. I like the proportions on the 15500 much better all around, even if it gains a bit of thickness.

You bring up a good point - how will they fit this movement in a smaller case if the date is stretched out at the 3.

[GB-man]

Originally Posted by uscmatt99

Sign me up for the 15500 blue dial. The 15400 is a great watch, but the position of the date aperture has always been the giveaway of a movement too small for the case. I like the proportions on the 15500 much better all around, even if it gains a bit of thickness.

For sure and I’ve owned and enjoyed a few 15400. I predict these will be really hard to get sadly.

[Crown & Shield]

Judging by the date window, the 15500 must have a larger calibre, right?

[Crown & Shield]

Just checked, 32mm vs. 26,6mm on the 15400.

[SpunkyQ8]

This is the only thing that may stand out IMO. Yet still a reedition of the limited edition 14802.. What R&D did AP do for 2019?
ZILCH!

[subtona]

Originally Posted by SpunkyQ8

This is the only thing that may stand out IMO. Yet still a reedition of the limited edition 14802.. What R&D did AP do for 2019?
ZILCH!

This is fantastic... platinum would be better