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erock · 10 November 2009, 03:38 AM

I am currently talking to one of the sellers here on trf and they have two very similar watches I am interested in. They described one as having holes in the case and the other as having no holes in the case. Im new to watches so I dont really know exactly what that means. What does this mean and which one would be the better buy? Thanks.

cpsomas · 10 November 2009, 03:42 AM

I am assuming he is refering to lug holes. Lug holes are what hold the spring bars in place which connect the bracelet to the watch case. The newer models do not have lug holes that go the entire way through each lug.

moviefreak · 10 November 2009, 03:52 AM

I have watches with and without.. the ones with lug holes have a rougher look to them.. and removing the bracelet is a lot easier... some people love watches with holes in the lugs...

Tools · 10 November 2009, 04:17 AM

Holes:

No Holes:

Holes:

No Holes:

Speed · 10 November 2009, 04:21 AM

Ahh yes. A picture is worth a thousand words.

Larry educated me on the holes Vs. no-holes prior to be getting my Series-Y Sub (circa 2002). I like the holes...but recently got a GMT II D-Series (circa 2006) with no holes.

Guess what...I like that watch as well!

It's really a cosmetic preference thing.

NYC6 · 10 November 2009, 04:26 AM

Now that diving and fishing season is over I put the origional bracelet bracelet back on my Sub ND. It was wearing a black NATO for the summer. It took about 3 minutes to swap it over with a straightend HD paper clip. Love the holes.

Deep Sea · 10 November 2009, 05:50 AM

Holes make it a lot easier to swap to a NATO strap, and to remove the bracelet for cleaning. I would take one with the holes over one without. Just my 2 cents, though.

Speed · 10 November 2009, 06:19 AM

I have a bergeon tool - looks like a tiny u-shaped fork. Makes non-lug hole strap changes a snap. Love the lug holes though. I was hoping to find a mint GMT II Coke with lug holes, but the series D I got was too good to pass up.

I *may* switch to a super Jubilee bracelet, but if not, I don't see myself changes the bracelet anyway.

robbonds · 10 November 2009, 07:44 AM

Hate the look of holes. Don't like holes on clasp either

greekbum · 10 November 2009, 08:07 AM

For me I like lug holes and plastic crystals. If I think modern Rolex I want sapphire crystal and no lug holes.This leaves 20 years on most models with lug holes and sapphire in the middle.

slcbbrown · 10 November 2009, 08:15 AM

prefer holes

Art 1 · 10 November 2009, 08:21 AM

It really doesn't matter.

10 November 2009, 03:38 AM	#1
erock Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Erick Location: US Watch: 16220 DJ Posts: 109	holes vs no holes I am currently talking to one of the sellers here on trf and they have two very similar watches I am interested in. They described one as having holes in the case and the other as having no holes in the case. Im new to watches so I dont really know exactly what that means. What does this mean and which one would be the better buy? Thanks.

10 November 2009, 03:52 AM	#3
moviefreak "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: in my house... Posts: 5,524	I have watches with and without.. the ones with lug holes have a rougher look to them.. and removing the bracelet is a lot easier... some people love watches with holes in the lugs... __________________ Cheers, Eduardo Be a WIS not a WUSS... and remove all the stickers..

10 November 2009, 04:17 AM	#4
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,515	Holes: No Holes: Holes: No Holes: __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

10 November 2009, 05:50 AM	#7
Deep Sea "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Martin Location: NC Watch: A Rolex or two Posts: 952	Holes make it a lot easier to swap to a NATO strap, and to remove the bracelet for cleaning. I would take one with the holes over one without. Just my 2 cents, though. __________________ Deep Sea A few Rolex & a Tudor Sub An Omega & a bunch of Breitling

10 November 2009, 07:44 AM	#9
robbonds "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Florida Watch: ROO Posts: 1,040	Hate the look of holes. Don't like holes on clasp either __________________ 41mm SS ROC blue dial

10 November 2009, 03:42 AM	#2
cpsomas "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Lower 48 Watch: SMP 2254.50 Posts: 337	I am assuming he is refering to lug holes. Lug holes are what hold the spring bars in place which connect the bracelet to the watch case. The newer models do not have lug holes that go the entire way through each lug.

10 November 2009, 04:21 AM	#5
Speed "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: USA Posts: 19,706	Ahh yes. A picture is worth a thousand words. Larry educated me on the holes Vs. no-holes prior to be getting my Series-Y Sub (circa 2002). I like the holes...but recently got a GMT II D-Series (circa 2006) with no holes. Guess what...I like that watch as well! It's really a cosmetic preference thing.

10 November 2009, 04:26 AM	#6
NYC6 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Dennis Location: L.I./N.Y. Watch: SUBMARINER 14060M Posts: 2,769	Now that diving and fishing season is over I put the origional bracelet bracelet back on my Sub ND. It was wearing a black NATO for the summer. It took about 3 minutes to swap it over with a straightend HD paper clip. Love the holes.

10 November 2009, 06:19 AM	#8
Speed "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: USA Posts: 19,706	I have a bergeon tool - looks like a tiny u-shaped fork. Makes non-lug hole strap changes a snap. Love the lug holes though. I was hoping to find a mint GMT II Coke with lug holes, but the series D I got was too good to pass up. I may switch to a super Jubilee bracelet, but if not, I don't see myself changes the bracelet anyway.

10 November 2009, 08:07 AM	#10
greekbum "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Real Name: Nikos Location: Florida Watch: Rolex GMT 16750 Posts: 8,418	For me I like lug holes and plastic crystals. If I think modern Rolex I want sapphire crystal and no lug holes.This leaves 20 years on most models with lug holes and sapphire in the middle. __________________ Follow Me On Instagram @nickgogas Original Owner ROLEX 16750 GMT Daily Wearer For Over 13,000 Days And Counting

10 November 2009, 08:15 AM	#11
slcbbrown "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: steve Location: dallas area Watch: 50's TT t-bird Posts: 3,689	prefer holes

10 November 2009, 08:21 AM	#12
Art 1 Banned Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Florida, Canada Watch: Rol/Seik/Tud/Omega Posts: 30,244	It really doesn't matter.

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