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Old 17 January 2010, 05:59 AM   #1
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What's up with the constant DSSD bashing on TRF...

What's up with DSSD bashing here...

A lot of you here love to bash the DSSD constantly for whatever reasons in many posts and threads.

is it envy ?
jalousy ?
afraid that your smaller dweller or submariner loose its value by not keeping up with the current trend for bigger watch ?
can not afford one ?

I love TRF but the constant DSSD bashing kinda got on my nerve recently...

sharing experience is cool , discussing technical aspect of different Rolexes is cool, sharing pics is cool ...

reading the following thread inspired me to start this one

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=50571
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Old 17 January 2010, 06:01 AM   #2
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some people dont like change.

personally, I LOVE IT!
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Old 17 January 2010, 06:08 AM   #3
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I havn't got one yet but i love it. Take it from me this DSSD will become iconic. If anyone who has one and wants to get rid of it.....well i will look after it for them. !
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Old 17 January 2010, 06:08 AM   #4
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Some people don't like it due to its prodigious size. That's hardly bashing. What's the problem?
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Old 17 January 2010, 06:11 AM   #5
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I love my Deepsea Dweller. I mean compare it to a hubcap size invicta (spelling)
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Old 17 January 2010, 06:12 AM   #6
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some people dont like change.

personally, I LOVE IT!
Not liking change is OK with me, it's the constant bashing that is irritating...

Nice of you to post a positive comment.

The point i am trying to make here is a lot of submariner and older model dwellers owners are constantly bashing the DSSD and their owner's taste.

While we, DSSD lovers say positive thing for the DSSD without the obligatory bashing of the submariner and smaller dwellers.
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Old 17 January 2010, 06:14 AM   #7
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Not liking change is OK with me, it's the constant bashing that is irritating...

Nice of you to post a positive comment.

The point i am trying to make here is a lot of submariner and older model dwellers owners are constantly bashing the DSSD and their owner's taste.

While we, DSSD lovers say positive thing for the DSSD without the obligatory bashing of the submariner and smaller dwellers.
its a matter of personal preference i guess. i think the YM sucks, but i wont go around telling everybody in their YM thread that. the SDDS seems to invoke very strong feelings from people who arent afraid to say so. not sure why.

ignore the haters.
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Old 17 January 2010, 06:19 AM   #8
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I'm loving it!
All the jealous guys out there can bash it all they want!!! I don't give rats behind about it!!!
I'm loving it!!!
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Old 17 January 2010, 06:21 AM   #9
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Didn't realise that any DS bashing goes on...?

To begin with there were some comments because of the size/thickness & obviously something that technologically advanced will have to "earn it's spurs" to justify the depth rating- i.e prove it's purpose like the Sea Dweller, but I always thought the majority liked the DS, but not it's resale value.

I'd love to get one, but have a couple of others to get first.
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Old 17 January 2010, 06:22 AM   #10
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Old 17 January 2010, 06:24 AM   #11
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Way too big for me.

But, I don't bash. Your money, your wrist, your choice.
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Old 17 January 2010, 06:27 AM   #12
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Some people don't like it due to its prodigious size. That's hardly bashing. What's the problem?
sample of quotes found on TRF (in a single thread !)to help you...

"i would say it's more about taste, or lack of it in favour of being ostentatious! "

"i'm sure that a lot of the "johnny come lately" nuevo rolex afficinados will pounce on the possibility of owning one."

"disgustingly garish, worn by david beckham, nuff said!"

"I don't know what I think about blue lume on a Rolex yet. My Citizen diver has the same blue glow... "

"i think that clone is meant to be worn on diver's foot!! "

"The most stupidist thing they have ever come up with...I'm talking about the SDDS of course."
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Old 17 January 2010, 06:29 AM   #13
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well i don't like it!
that does not mean i am bashing it!
it just means its not my thing is all (too big)
but my watches may not be to your likeing and i wouldn't take that personally

all that matters is if you like it mate
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Old 17 January 2010, 06:45 AM   #14
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What's up with DSSD bashing here...

A lot of you here love to bash the DSSD constantly for whatever reasons in many posts and threads.

is it envy ?
jalousy ?
afraid that your smaller dweller or submariner loose its value by not keeping up with the current trend for bigger watch ?
can not afford one ?

I love TRF but the constant DSSD bashing kinda got on my nerve recently...

sharing experience is cool , discussing technical aspect of different Rolexes is cool, sharing pics is cool ...

reading the following thread inspired me to start this one

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=50571
No I am not Jelous
No I am not Envious
And yes I can afford one.

If you love your DSSD, that's great but others don't have to share your love.

I will post my feelings in the other thread.
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Old 17 January 2010, 06:46 AM   #15
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The DSSD is a special purpose watch and in that regard, it's a very good looking watch. However, because of the special purpose it serves, it is very large and bulky. Now, if someone needs the DSSD or if they want it for their collection, I get that. However, I don't get wanting to wear one as an everyday watch or for dress up, but that's just me. I'm not bashing it, I just don't get the desire of some folks to wear one all the time.

Now, I like 36mm watches. Some folks here don't get why a guy with an 8 3/8" wrist would want to wear a puny little watch. However, many of those same folks also note how nice my 36mm watches look; they just don't get my desire to wear one. Hey, that's okay, I don't see that anyone here is "bashing" my TT DJ 16013, and I don't think anyone is really bashing your DSSD. Just man up, and to hell with what us puny watch guys think.
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Old 17 January 2010, 06:50 AM   #16
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Old 17 January 2010, 06:50 AM   #17
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I haven't really noticed much bashing of the DSSD, although I have to admit, I think I called it a "brick" about a week ago. I didn't mean to offend anybody, so Im sorry if I did.
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Old 17 January 2010, 06:51 AM   #18
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A similar thread was posted about why all the Daytona bashing.

Nothing to it really, just a couple of people who aren't yet used to being polite on an internet forum.

They learn, else they leave.
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Old 17 January 2010, 06:52 AM   #19
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Wasn't aware of any bashing . . .

Having said that, I really like the DSSD. Aesthetically, I found it attractive, and I--at one point--was going to purchase one. IMHO, it just seemed a little top-heavy, a little floppy when I tried it on. Admittedly, this was only for fifteen minutes. I guess I would have grown used to it, but I decided against it.

Overall, I think it's an amazing watch and I love the appearance with its enhanced size. Just didn't wear right for me. Ultimately it's an impressive Rolex and a real technological achievement.

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Old 17 January 2010, 06:55 AM   #20
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I think there are just as many advocates of the DSSD as well as detractors. The only problem is, anything negative always has a bigger impact. As for me, I love the watch as a piece of engineering, but it's not one I could own, simply as it's just too big for my wrist.
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Old 17 January 2010, 06:59 AM   #21
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The DSSD is a beautiful watch on it's own.

Since inception decades ago, the Sea Dweller has been an understated tool watch that could be worn to a black tie dinner as easily as it could at depth working on an oil rig. The understated, yet at the same time tough, iconic, and elegant design, never had to shout its capabilities.

Owners love the SD for what it represents. They could have bought a Submariner or GMT, but they didn't... they bought the SD because of what it is and what it represents. With the passing of the 16600, the DSSD is now the only Sea Dweller. And yet it does not consistently represent what the 16600 Sea Dweller had for decades before - at least from an aesthetic point of view imho.

The technical engineering abilities of the DSSD are not in question. What I regret most about the DSSD is how comically oversized it is - following a common fashion trend for oversized watches. I mean, it can't be worn to a black tie dinner because it doesn't even fit under a normal shirt cuff It has a beautiful curved glass and flush ceramic bezel, but why the need for the 'hey look at me'-emblazened print of 'Original Gas Escape Valve' around the face of the watch?

The DSSD is stunning to look at in a fashion watch shop display window, but on normal sized wrists it's a bit of a farce isn't it? Now maybe if it only came with a rubber/fibre strap for proper diving use, then I could take it more seriously. But with a proportionally undersized bracelet it just seems to be trying too hard... when a Sea Dweller never had to.
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way too big for me.

But, i don't bash. Your money, your wrist, your choice.
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Old 17 January 2010, 07:02 AM   #23
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Let me see if I understand this...

You think that there is a lot of DSSD bashing because you can find a handful of posts of members who do not like it... and you can't stand somebody else not liking what you have....

I think we can find just as many posts about other models too......... probably more for the Milgauss and the Smurf Sub..

So your answer to this perception of DSSD bashing is to bash TRF and it's good members.............
..That about right ?..




........This seems like a typical Troll post to me..........
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Old 17 January 2010, 07:05 AM   #24
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[QUOTE=
While we, DSSD lovers say positive thing for the DSSD without the obligatory bashing of the submariner and smaller dwellers.[/QUOTE]

One mans bashing is another mans opinion. It is a matter of semantics . As an example you spelled submariner (small case) and referred to smaller dwellers- some may take that as a not so subtle form of bashing.
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I personally don't like the DSSD, due to the weird writings on the rehaut. For the same money I'd get a TT GMT IIC or a SS Daytona instead. But I don't think the DSSD would be ostentatious or disgusting at all. I think it's a proper Rolex, a proper diver's watch. Just because it's bigger than any other Rolex wouldn't make it any less of a Rolex. The Daytona or the Yacht-Master II are also special, one of a kind pieces in the Rolex line-up.

I think some people may have got upset at DSSD release because it replaced the loved Sea-Dweller. And as a replacement it is too radical -- let's face it, it's not typical about Rolex to refresh or replace iconic watches with radical steps in any directions.

I guess if Rolex rolls out a new Explorer II with 43mm diameter, ceramic bezel, maxi-dial, maxi-case, PCL, writings on the rehaut or the bezel (etc), people will be equally upset about it.
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Old 17 January 2010, 07:21 AM   #27
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let me see if i understand this...

You think that there is a lot of dssd bashing because you can find a handful of posts of members who do not like it... and you can't stand somebody else not liking what you have....

i welcome different opinion, but sometimes a condescending and sarcastic tone is not necessarily welcome.

i think we can find just as many posts about other models too......... Probably more for the milgauss and the smurf sub..

if it doesn't bother the moderators, i am cool with it

so your answer to this perception of dssd bashing is to bash trf and it's good members.............
..that about right ?..

you are entitled to your own opinion regarding perception vs. Factual.
Are you accusing me of bashing trf members ?


the reason i am posting here is because i consider most member of trp good members, outstanding would be a better word.


........this seems like a typical troll post to me..........:thinking:

if it is your perception that i am trolling , i respect that even if i respectfully disagree.



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Old 17 January 2010, 07:24 AM   #28
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What's up with DSSD bashing here...

is it envy ?
jalousy ?
afraid that your smaller dweller or submariner loose its value by not keeping up with the current trend for bigger watch ?
can not afford one ?
Interesting reasons you draw up for someone not liking the DSSD. The watch has many technological advancements, but I'm not attracted to it because to me its unnecessary height makes the watch look ridiculous and obvious on the wearer's wrist like a cry for attention. Of course, I can also see how that type of narcissitic appeal is one thing that might have someone erroneously believing that others are simply jealous of their watch.
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Old 17 January 2010, 07:37 AM   #29
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Personally, the 43mm size is a bit big for me. However, I haven't really been aware of any "bashing". It is still a beautiful watch, and having said it is a bit big, I have owned bigger. A lot of the other Divers out there are at least 44mm and higher. Rolex has obviously put a tremendous amount of engineering into this timepiece to have come up with one this size, and still having the amazing depth rating that it does. The Breitling Seawolf has a depth rating of 10,000 feet - less than the DSSD - but it quite a bit bigger: 45mm and 18.5mm thick.
Anyway, there has been a lot of discussion about the DSSD. However, I have gotten the opposite impression, ie that the watch is pretty much admired. To be truthful, that is one of the things I like most about this forum, is that there is very little negativity on here. I find even when I post info and pics about my Omegas the odd time, the feedback is very positive.
I don't really notice that there is a lot of jealousy here either. There are people on here from all walks of life, various income levels, and various levels of disposable income or funds that they allocate toward watches. For example, I have a very simple lifestyle, don't own a home, don't have a vehicle, and don't make a lot of money. I do, however, spend a large portion of my money on watches, and wish that I could afford a lot more, and some more expensive ones as well. When I see postings of guys who spend more money and buy more expensive watches than I do, I am generally happy for them and grateful that they are sharing their experiences with all of us. It's all relative. I am sure there are some who envy my watch collection as well, but they don't show me any signs of jealousy. Quite the contrary. I always feel that my postings, with pics and info, are very well received by almost everyone.
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Old 17 January 2010, 07:46 AM   #30
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Posted in the other thread, l but will re post here;

Here is my take on the DSSD.

I am one of the guys that this watch is meant to have been designed for ie I am a Commercial Diver working in the Oil and Gas Industry.

Those of us in my profession that are keen on watches (there are quite a few of us) have keenly talked about the DSSD and many guys showed an interest in purchasing one, probably just a case of one up manship as a lot of guys wear Sub's and SD's, infact there are loads of the things on my vessel. I wear at the mo either an SD or SS Sub Date.

I was particularer interested in getting a DSSD however until recently I had only seen photo's of the watch on the net. Some of my friends had seen it in the flesh and said it was a bit of a monster. First I would like to say that from the photos I have seen I think the watch does look awesome and I was even more keen to get one.

The other day while at an AD (with a friend who is also a Comm Diver) to get a new watch (the Sub) they had a DSSD in and I was keen to have a look and that is where my interest stopped.

We both commented on how commical and ungainly the watch looked, as many have said it's not the diameter but the thickness. My mate also decided that it wasn't for him and recently ordered an original SD and I stuck with my original choice and purchassed the Sub.

Now I have always liked the fact that Rolex has always marketed it's sports watches as tools, the explorer for Mountaineers, the Daytona for Drivers, the GMT for pilots and the SD/Sub for Divers.

Now the DSSD is so big it actually is not fit for purpose, let me explain;

All romantic notions asside, Commercial Divers for the most part do not wear watches in the water, despite those great images from Comex etc.. as the watch would likely get broken and lost. The place where they got worn is in the Sat Chambers and when back in the bar on land. To that end the watch has to be quite comfy and fit for all occasions, the SD and Sub are perfect for this the DSSD is not (unless you are a very big fellow).

This is why I think the DSSD is a bit micky mouse and the original SD is in fact the better watch, I think Rolex would have been much wiser to have just updated the SD a little and kept the watch the same size as it the size of a practicle tool. I personally think Rolex have made a huge mistake with DSSD.

So if the DSSD is not favored by those who it is ultimatly designed for then what is the point in it? like I say I think the watch does look awesome but if you want to get a watch that is worn by the pros either get a Sub or a now discontinued SD.

I am not writing this to bash the DSSD, at the end of the day if you have one and like it that is all that matters. I am just trying to explain my dislike of the watch that has nothing to do with fashion but from a purely practical stand point.

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