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bluemartinifan · 26 February 2010, 10:48 PM

Ok here is the opportunity...
You own and truly enjoy a primary rotation of:

16710 Z (3185) - wear it Mon > Thu to office
14060 A - wear Fri > Sun for fun
Zenith Class Elite - wear it to church and formals (2 x per month)

All GREAT watches - but since I got the 14060 A - the vintage feeling of the 14060 has hit home - the bracelet, the holes, not as perfect, and just a different feel than my newer Z serial.

The Z 16710 full pkg values at $4000 - $4200 for an outright sale here.

2 QUESTIONS

DO YOU KEEP THE 16710 Z????
OR
SELL THE Z AND BUY A VINTAGE GMT - AND WHAT KIND OF A VINTAGE GMT DO YOU HUNT FOR IN THAT PRICE RANGE???? (remember to wear 4 days per week)
Cheers!

Randy16V · 26 February 2010, 11:20 PM

I currently have a 16710 with the 3186... Great watch, love it, really, but I really like the simplicity of the earlier GMT Masters- specifically the 16750 and the 16700.

You're probably saying- why the 16700?

Well, it's a straight GMT Master, not a "II" though, (technically, my current watch is a "ll"); but rather- I like the vintage simplicity, and slightly lower profile of the 16700.

Something to think about.

CPTL · 26 February 2010, 11:38 PM

If I were going to do that, I'd sell the 14060. If you get a vintage piece, you probably will need a daily wearer, which it appears your 16610 is. And I wouldn't go looking for a watch in a specified budget, either. Look at the market for various references, and hone in on what you want and can afford. The, go looking for a good deal on a well preserved piece.

mike · 26 February 2010, 11:50 PM

My thoughts,

Given your rotation I would opt for a 16750 (matt dial would be my first choice).

Reasoning--With it's quickset date feature allowing the watch to wind down on off days doesn't present the problems of winding through the dates on a regular basis (wear?) that a non-quickset 1675 might bring.

You still maintain the lovely acryllic crystal, vintage look with the matt, and the fast beat movement shouldn't present servicing problems down the road.

theken · 27 February 2010, 02:18 AM

I agree with Mike that a 1675 GMT may not be the most practical watch to add to a rotation of watches if you wear it only few times each month.
The non-quickset date feature means that the crown will require MANY rotations to set the correct date as well as the GMT hand every time you wear it.
If you want a vintage Rolex to wear a few times a month, consider a 5512/5513 Sub or the transitional GMTs 16750/16760. A matte dial 16750 with an acrylic crystal and a maxi dial without the white gold surrounds has a vintage look as well as a modern movement and, in my opinion, is the best of both worlds.
I would like to know what you decide, Russ, so keep us posted

sakuraba · 27 February 2010, 02:26 AM

Before buying the 16710, I was considering a stretch of the budget for a 1675/1670 because I preferred the flatter profile and wider bezel insert of the vintage watch. But considering the "wearability" of the watch (I really use the GMT function for work), I eventually went with the jump hour feature of the 16710.

I would go with Kevin's suggestion of trading your weekend watch for a vintage instead of the daily watch.

Hope this helps.

buz-lh · 27 February 2010, 07:07 AM

Listen to Mike. I did and couldn't be happier with my 16750.

landroverking · 27 February 2010, 08:03 AM

I don't think of any Rolex GMT after 1675 as vintage.

Puffy · 27 February 2010, 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by landroverking

I don't think of any Rolex GMT after 1675 as vintage.

Agree. 1675 is THE vintage

submariner16610 · 27 February 2010, 09:21 AM

ill stick with the 16710

26 February 2010, 10:48 PM	#1
bluemartinifan "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: Russ Location: Dallas Texas Watch: 5513 Posts: 2,124	$4,200 - GMT - Modern vs Vintage Ok here is the opportunity... You own and truly enjoy a primary rotation of: 16710 Z (3185) - wear it Mon > Thu to office 14060 A - wear Fri > Sun for fun Zenith Class Elite - wear it to church and formals (2 x per month) All GREAT watches - but since I got the 14060 A - the vintage feeling of the 14060 has hit home - the bracelet, the holes, not as perfect, and just a different feel than my newer Z serial. The Z 16710 full pkg values at $4000 - $4200 for an outright sale here. 2 QUESTIONS DO YOU KEEP THE 16710 Z???? OR SELL THE Z AND BUY A VINTAGE GMT - AND WHAT KIND OF A VINTAGE GMT DO YOU HUNT FOR IN THAT PRICE RANGE???? (remember to wear 4 days per week) Cheers!

26 February 2010, 11:38 PM	#3
CPTL "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Kevin Location: Texas on my mind Watch: Sub Date; SS/WG DJ Posts: 2,445	If I were going to do that, I'd sell the 14060. If you get a vintage piece, you probably will need a daily wearer, which it appears your 16610 is. And I wouldn't go looking for a watch in a specified budget, either. Look at the market for various references, and hone in on what you want and can afford. The, go looking for a good deal on a well preserved piece. __________________ 16610 Submariner Date; D Serial 16234 DateJust SS with WG Fluted Bezel & Jubillee, White Roman Dial; F Serial 16570 Explorer II White Dial; M Serial And Hers: 78240 Mid-Size DateJust SS with Domed Bezel & Oyster, White Roman; D Serial

27 February 2010, 02:26 AM	#6
sakuraba "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Jib Location: SJ, California Watch: sun dial Posts: 8,189	Before buying the 16710, I was considering a stretch of the budget for a 1675/1670 because I preferred the flatter profile and wider bezel insert of the vintage watch. But considering the "wearability" of the watch (I really use the GMT function for work), I eventually went with the jump hour feature of the 16710. I would go with Kevin's suggestion of trading your weekend watch for a vintage instead of the daily watch. Hope this helps. __________________ F 14000 AirKing black F 16710 GMT Pepsi F 16570 Explorer II white T 16600 SD D 16610 LV "fine quality is remembered long after the pain of spending money" -Steve Mulholland

27 February 2010, 07:07 AM	#7
buz-lh "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Buz Location: Atlanta Watch: Rolex Tudor Pam Posts: 5,108	Listen to Mike. I did and couldn't be happier with my 16750. __________________ Buz The faster you move, the slower time passes, the longer you live. Peter Diamandis

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26 February 2010, 11:20 PM	#2
Randy16V Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Randy Location: New Jersey Watch: Rolex Posts: 117	I currently have a 16710 with the 3186... Great watch, love it, really, but I really like the simplicity of the earlier GMT Masters- specifically the 16750 and the 16700. You're probably saying- why the 16700? Well, it's a straight GMT Master, not a "II" though, (technically, my current watch is a "ll"); but rather- I like the vintage simplicity, and slightly lower profile of the 16700. Something to think about.

26 February 2010, 11:50 PM	#4
mike "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 22,683	My thoughts, Given your rotation I would opt for a 16750 (matt dial would be my first choice). Reasoning--With it's quickset date feature allowing the watch to wind down on off days doesn't present the problems of winding through the dates on a regular basis (wear?) that a non-quickset 1675 might bring. You still maintain the lovely acryllic crystal, vintage look with the matt, and the fast beat movement shouldn't present servicing problems down the road.

27 February 2010, 02:18 AM	#5
theken "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: USA Watch: GMT-Master II Posts: 3,417	I agree with Mike that a 1675 GMT may not be the most practical watch to add to a rotation of watches if you wear it only few times each month. The non-quickset date feature means that the crown will require MANY rotations to set the correct date as well as the GMT hand every time you wear it. If you want a vintage Rolex to wear a few times a month, consider a 5512/5513 Sub or the transitional GMTs 16750/16760. A matte dial 16750 with an acrylic crystal and a maxi dial without the white gold surrounds has a vintage look as well as a modern movement and, in my opinion, is the best of both worlds. I would like to know what you decide, Russ, so keep us posted

27 February 2010, 08:03 AM	#8
landroverking "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Jay Location: TEXAS Watch: Daytona Posts: 7,648	I don't think of any Rolex GMT after 1675 as vintage.

27 February 2010, 09:21 AM	#10
submariner16610 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: united states Watch: submariner,daytona Posts: 707	ill stick with the 16710

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