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alexthegreat123 · 28 February 2010, 07:33 AM

Hi everybody!

What's the fair price for this watch? Any after market parts?

Any comments will be appreciated.

Thanks

alexthegreat123 · 28 February 2010, 07:51 AM

It's 1,6mil serial number

Safetrends · 28 February 2010, 08:05 AM

That watch has been beat up, it must have been worn every day.

Earl Camembert · 28 February 2010, 08:36 AM

The crown should have three dots, I don't see any.

alexthegreat123 · 28 February 2010, 08:42 AM

I noticed it too (about the crown). The bracelet and clasp are also from later models

TheBluePrince · 28 February 2010, 09:12 AM

Looks like it's had a hard life, and been polished a lot. Lug holes show just how much, they're now nearly poking out the top of the lugs. Even all the excess polishing hasn't and won't get that big gash out of the case though. CG's look worked on too. I'd like to see the movement. Maybe the dots have been polished off the crown too.....although no dots on crown is correct on some period subs like that.

How much? If it's original, real and the movement is good no more than $2500 in that state.

rfknauss · 28 February 2010, 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Earl Camembert

The crown should have three dots, I don't see any.

Alex, as Earl pointed out, the crown should definitely have three dots ..... my 5513 which I purchased new in 1978 has them.

TheBluePrince · 28 February 2010, 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rfknauss

Alex, as Earl pointed out, the crown should definitely have three dots ..... my 5513 which I purchased new in 1978 has them.

That's 1978, this watch is a lot earlier, 1962 ish. I've definitely seen subs with no dots before. Not saying this definitely is one of them but it happened.

TheBluePrince · 28 February 2010, 09:48 AM

Another Six 5513's without the trip dots from the same era and there are at least as many again i've just seen too...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Rolex-Submarin...item20afa2bdba

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Authentic-ROLE...item5885eba721

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ROLEX-SUBMARIN...item5886315911

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ROLEX-SUBMARIN...item3efd34a11d

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VINTAGE-ROLEX-...item3efd37109d

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Rolex-5513-Sub...item23056ee522

And here's the crown in question itself for sale on it's own

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Very-rare-SS-R...item4a9ee983a1

So the trip lock crowns often seen on early subs are often incorrect, not original and have been added by Rolex at later services.

CaveDiver · 28 February 2010, 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Earl Camembert

The crown should have three dots, I don't see any.

That is heavy warn twin lock crown. The watch may need some work at some cost. You need to look inside. Big dent in the case too.

rfknauss · 28 February 2010, 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBluePrince

That's 1978, this watch is a lot earlier, 1962 ish. I've definitely seen subs with no dots before. Not saying this definitely is one of them but it happened.

Thanks for the info ....... I certainly did not want to mislead anyone.

TheBluePrince · 28 February 2010, 09:56 AM

I think the big chunk out of the case is the biggest issue. I reckon Rolex would want to replace that case due to that and the uneven, over polishing if they were to accept to work on it.

But if the movement is good and running strong the watch is all genuine i'd still pay $2500 for it and wear it on a corvus Bond NATO as it is.

rfknauss · 28 February 2010, 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBluePrince

I think the big chunk out of the case is the biggest issue. I reckon Rolex would want to replace that case due to that and the uneven, over polishing if they were to accept to work on it.

Good point ...... and it probably would be expensive to replace.

Earl Camembert · 28 February 2010, 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBluePrince

That's 1978, this watch is a lot earlier, 1962 ish. I've definitely seen subs with no dots before. Not saying this definitely is one of them but it happened.

What year did Rolex start with the triple lock three dot crown?

TheBluePrince · 28 February 2010, 10:43 AM

Not sure exactly. Mid to late 60's i think. But possibly also different years on different models to confuse things even more.

alexthegreat123 · 28 February 2010, 02:49 PM

Great comments! thanks lot guys!!

blaine mattison · 28 February 2010, 05:41 PM

the crown is correct and might even be original to the watch. no dots
like that one, where also used on some daytona's (the 7mm types)

the watch is not a 62 year watch. later > > > >

28 February 2010, 07:33 AM	#1
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28 February 2010, 07:51 AM	#2
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28 February 2010, 08:05 AM	#3
Safetrends Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: David Walz Location: San Diego CA USA Watch: my hand. :) Posts: 9,156	That watch has been beat up, it must have been worn every day.

28 February 2010, 08:36 AM	#4
Earl Camembert Banned Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,858	The crown should have three dots, I don't see any.

28 February 2010, 09:12 AM	#6
TheBluePrince "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: London Posts: 2,081	Looks like it's had a hard life, and been polished a lot. Lug holes show just how much, they're now nearly poking out the top of the lugs. Even all the excess polishing hasn't and won't get that big gash out of the case though. CG's look worked on too. I'd like to see the movement. Maybe the dots have been polished off the crown too.....although no dots on crown is correct on some period subs like that. How much? If it's original, real and the movement is good no more than $2500 in that state.

28 February 2010, 09:48 AM	#9
TheBluePrince "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: London Posts: 2,081	Another Six 5513's without the trip dots from the same era and there are at least as many again i've just seen too... http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Rolex-Submarin...item20afa2bdba http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Authentic-ROLE...item5885eba721 http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ROLEX-SUBMARIN...item5886315911 http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ROLEX-SUBMARIN...item3efd34a11d http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VINTAGE-ROLEX-...item3efd37109d http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Rolex-5513-Sub...item23056ee522 And here's the crown in question itself for sale on it's own http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Very-rare-SS-R...item4a9ee983a1 So the trip lock crowns often seen on early subs are often incorrect, not original and have been added by Rolex at later services.

28 February 2010, 09:56 AM	#12
TheBluePrince "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: London Posts: 2,081	I think the big chunk out of the case is the biggest issue. I reckon Rolex would want to replace that case due to that and the uneven, over polishing if they were to accept to work on it. But if the movement is good and running strong the watch is all genuine i'd still pay $2500 for it and wear it on a corvus Bond NATO as it is.

28 February 2010, 10:43 AM	#15
TheBluePrince "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: London Posts: 2,081	Not sure exactly. Mid to late 60's i think. But possibly also different years on different models to confuse things even more.

28 February 2010, 05:41 PM	#17
blaine mattison "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: blaine Location: memphis Watch: my next find Posts: 1,060	the crown is correct and might even be original to the watch. no dots like that one, where also used on some daytona's (the 7mm types) the watch is not a 62 year watch. later > > > >

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