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Old 2 March 2007, 12:31 PM   #1
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Extremely Vintage Sub On Ebay.

Assuming this vintage is authentic, and you had $80,000.00 laying around, would you ad it to your collection?http://cgi.ebay.com/ROLEX-Oyster-SUB...iewItem#BigPic
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Old 2 March 2007, 01:25 PM   #2
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Assuming this vintage is authentic, and you had $80,000.00 laying around, would you ad it to your collection?
In a heartbeat, providing it had the correct provenance.
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Old 2 March 2007, 01:31 PM   #3
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In a heartbeat, providing it had the correct provenance.
I'm glad someone other than myself could justify this purchase assuming money was not an issue.
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Old 2 March 2007, 03:36 PM   #4
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Good part is the free shipping!
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Old 2 March 2007, 05:15 PM   #5
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and you had $80,000.00 laying around,
not for me, i can imagine having 80k but i i really can't imagine leaving it lying around plus its not the type i like.
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Old 2 March 2007, 05:27 PM   #6
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I quite like the explorer 1 like dial , hell yeah i'd have it
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Old 2 March 2007, 06:54 PM   #7
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Expensive the bezel insert definitely not original to watch mark 1 and mark 11 6200, no minute graduations myself even if I could afford it would pass,at that price way to high price.

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Old 2 March 2007, 10:47 PM   #8
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Old 2 March 2007, 11:38 PM   #9
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No, $80K is to much!
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Old 3 March 2007, 02:10 AM   #10
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I could use 80k right now
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Old 3 March 2007, 02:37 AM   #11
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If it is real, it is too much $$$.
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Old 3 March 2007, 03:44 AM   #12
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bezel insert is wrong. If watch is otherwise perfect in every respect... 25k max.
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Old 3 March 2007, 03:51 AM   #13
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Expensive the bezel insert definitely not original to watch mark 1 and mark 11 6200, no minute graduations myself even if I could afford it would pass,at that price way to high price.

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Good catch, here is a photo from the movie.



Definitely wouldn't spend 80k for the one that is not original.
Then if it is the original, I will still skip. With 80k, I can do a lot more, maybe get another university degree.
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Old 3 March 2007, 04:33 AM   #14
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Good catch, here is a photo from the movie.

Definitely wouldn't spend 80k for the one that is not original.
Then if it is the original, I will still skip. With 80k, I can do a lot more, maybe get another university degree.
The bond Sub was IMHO a later model that the 6200 Many vintage Rolex collectors call all early Submariners without crown guards the James Bond Submariner, while others in the watch collecting field believe, that the watch Connery wore in Dr. No was the Rolex Submariner model 6538. Still other collectors believe that the Submariner Connery wore was more than likely one of four models they are the 6200, 6538A, thick cased 6538 and the 5510. Now IMHO I believe that it is impossible to nail it down to one of the four models, and I'll get into the specifics later.

All four models share the same thick case, a large crown marked Brevet (from the French word Brevette meaning patented), a coin edge non ratcheted bezel, an acrylic crystal, a depth rating of 200m/660ft and Mercedes hands. I should add that only the "thick cased" shoulder-less Submariners had the large winding crown. now, it should also be noted that the 6538 existed first as a thin cased model with a small crown. It became a thick cased model as the 6538A and was available alongside the 6200.

Once the thin cased versions were gone, the 6538A became the 6538 remaining the same until it and the 6200 were replaced by the 5510,well thats Rolex for you confusing as ever.. Since Sean Connery as James Bond only wore the thick cased Submariner (evident by the large crown), none of the thin cased, small crown so called James Bond Submariners without crown guards will be discussed.

IMO the only proper Sean Connery James Bond Submariner

Is one of the thick cased Submariners with the large crown first appeared on Connery's wrist in Dr. No, From Russia With love, Goldfinger, and Thunderball. It is assumed that Connery also wore this watch in You Only Live Twice, but I don't recall seeing it in that movie and to my knowledge it is not in the movie. If someone can direct me to a scene that shows otherwise, I'll happily revise this. By analysing close ups of the Connery Submariner, it is clear that the watch has the big crown with no crown guard,and has a gilt dial , and has Mercedes hands. The bezel insert is the non-graduated version, meaning there are no extra minute markings between 0 and 15 and the bezel pearl is in the centre of a silver triangle. Later versions of the Submariner had the extra minute markings between the 0 and 15 including the ones without crown guards. These observations are important because the watch has characteristics of a 6200, a 6538A, a thick cased 6538 or even a 5510 (depending on whether you discern the depth rating of Connery's watch as white or gilt) despite what so called experts say about it being only a 6538.
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Old 3 March 2007, 04:42 AM   #15
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Old 3 March 2007, 11:06 PM   #16
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Expensive the bezel insert definitely not original to watch mark 1 and mark 11 6200, no minute graduations myself even if I could afford it would pass,at that price way to high price.

Totally agree.

For that sort of money I would want it ALL original and in better condition.

Better off spending that amount of money on a gold or platinum vintage Patek Philippe.


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Old 4 March 2007, 11:52 AM   #17
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Too iffy for 80k
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