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The GMT Master · 29 December 2010, 03:55 AM

Hey all,

Just been leafing through the brand new master catalogue at work, and the Milgauss has now been shifted from the standard Oyster section into the Professional section. It had always been odd that it wasn't with the rest of the sports watches, but it's nice to see Rolex have changed their minds. I know it's a little anal, but I thought someone might appreciate the information here

Chris

Roxas · 29 December 2010, 07:06 AM

I think it's a professional model but not sports model.

esm · 29 December 2010, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by The GMT Master

Hey all,

Just been leafing through the brand new master catalogue at work, and the Milgauss has now been shifted from the standard Oyster section into the Professional section. It had always been odd that it wasn't with the rest of the sports watches, but it's nice to see Rolex have changed their minds. I know it's a little anal, but I thought someone might appreciate the information here

Chris

thanks for the info Chris, but what exactly is a Rolex Professional Model?

Gagebuilder · 29 December 2010, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by esm

thanks for the info Chris, but what exactly is a Rolex Professional Model?

+1, could you please explain the difference?

The GMT Master · 29 December 2010, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Gagebuilder

+1, could you please explain the difference?

Professional is the official Rolex term for what most of us call Sports models. If you look in the master catalogue, it is split into:

Gents' size Oyster (34mm, 36mm and 41mm)
*Air King
*Oyster Perpetual
*Date
*Datejust/Datejust II
*Day-Date/Day-Date II
Mid-size Oyster (31mm and 34mm)
*Oyster Perpetual
*Datejust/Pearlmaster
Ladies' size Oyster (26mm and 29mm)
*Oyster Perpetual
*Datejust/Pearlmaster
Professional Models (39mm, 40mm, 41mm, 43mm)
*Milgauss
*Explorer/Explorer II
*Yacht-Master/Yacht-Master II
*GMT-Master II
*Submariner/Deep Sea
*Daytona
Cellini
*Various Models

My point is that the Milgauss has been moved away from the Air Kings and Datejusts etc., to with the other "sports" models

esm · 29 December 2010, 07:58 AM

thank you Sir.

malnik · 29 December 2010, 08:00 AM

Care to also explain what does Oyster mean?

The GMT Master · 29 December 2010, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by esm

thank you Sir.

Since when did you call me "sir," Eric?

But anytime

The GMT Master · 29 December 2010, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by malnik

Care to also explain what does Oyster mean?

Oyster refers to the case - 95% of the Rolex range uses Oyster cases, and it means that they are waterproof to at least 100m

JBat · 29 December 2010, 08:03 AM

Good info, Chris, thanks.

malnik · 29 December 2010, 08:03 AM

Thank you for sharing your knowledge!

esm · 29 December 2010, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by The GMT Master

Since when did you call me "sir," Eric?

But anytime

since about.... 09:58 PM, today.

have a great evening Sir

The GMT Master · 29 December 2010, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by malnik

Thank you for sharing your knowledge!

No problem, glad I could help

The GMT Master · 29 December 2010, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by esm

since about.... 09:58 PM, today.

have a great evening Sir

You too Sir

barstoolman · 29 December 2010, 08:06 AM

Professional is Rolex's way of saying, what we lay people refer to as a "tool" watch...something designed with a specific purpose or use in mind.

SCD · 29 December 2010, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Roxas

I think it's a professional model but not sports model.

It could be used while earning money, unless doing so would involve athletics. And the GMT *is* a "sports" model because...? These are just a bunch of focus-tested words that marketing agency folks have learned to throw at us. They have no meaning.

Roxas · 29 December 2010, 08:44 AM

GMT is a sports model because its look is casual. From my understanding, sports means casual and dress means formal.

JJ Irani · 29 December 2010, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by SCD

It could be used while earning money, unless doing so would involve athletics. And the GMT *is* a "sports" model because...? These are just a bunch of focus-tested words that marketing agency folks have learned to throw at us. They have no meaning.

So I guess the SS/Pt. YM could be considered as a dress-cum-sporty-cum-professional model!!

TheDude · 29 December 2010, 01:18 PM

Wouldn't it be wonderful if they brushed the Milgauss center links as a nod to the shift to the Professional line?

snowbird · 29 December 2010, 04:41 PM

Can I ask where the 29mm and 35mm Yachtmasters fit in this typology? Are they considered ladies' size and gents' size Oyster (based on their size) or professional models (where Yachtmaster is slotted).

It's the one model I can think of that doesn't fit neatly into this system i.e. it's the only professional model that comes in smaller sizes.

Quote:

Originally Posted by The GMT Master

Professional is the official Rolex term for what most of us call Sports models. If you look in the master catalogue, it is split into:

Gents' size Oyster (34mm, 36mm and 41mm)
*Air King
*Oyster Perpetual
*Date
*Datejust/Datejust II
*Day-Date/Day-Date II
Mid-size Oyster (31mm and 34mm)
*Oyster Perpetual
*Datejust/Pearlmaster
Ladies' size Oyster (26mm and 29mm)
*Oyster Perpetual
*Datejust/Pearlmaster
Professional Models (39mm, 40mm, 41mm, 43mm)
*Milgauss
*Explorer/Explorer II
*Yacht-Master/Yacht-Master II
*GMT-Master II
*Submariner/Deep Sea
*Daytona
Cellini
*Various Models

My point is that the Milgauss has been moved away from the Air Kings and Datejusts etc., to with the other "sports" models

The GMT Master · 29 December 2010, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by snowbird

Can I ask where the 29mm and 35mm Yachtmasters fit in this typology? Are they considered ladies' size and gents' size Oyster (based on their size) or professional models (where Yachtmaster is slotted).

It's the one model I can think of that doesn't fit neatly into this system i.e. it's the only professional model that comes in smaller sizes.

They're still classed as professional models, the Yacht-Master (oddly) is the only Professional model offered in more than one size. It would be great if they did the same with the Sub and GMT, for example, there would be a market for it

snowbird · 30 December 2010, 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by The GMT Master

They're still classed as professional models, the Yacht-Master (oddly) is the only Professional model offered in more than one size. It would be great if they did the same with the Sub and GMT, for example, there would be a market for it

Thanks - interesting info.

esm · 30 December 2010, 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDude

Wouldn't it be wonderful if they brushed the Milgauss center links as a nod to the shift to the Professional line?

Why? The YM/YMII, GMTIIC and Daytona has the PCL too...

drtooth73 · 30 December 2010, 03:03 AM

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29 December 2010, 03:55 AM	#1
The GMT Master "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Chris Location: England Posts: 8,150	The Milgauss: Now officially a Professional model! Hey all, Just been leafing through the brand new master catalogue at work, and the Milgauss has now been shifted from the standard Oyster section into the Professional section. It had always been odd that it wasn't with the rest of the sports watches, but it's nice to see Rolex have changed their minds. I know it's a little anal, but I thought someone might appreciate the information here Chris

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29 December 2010, 07:06 AM	#2
Roxas "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Earth Watch: 14060M Posts: 516	I think it's a professional model but not sports model.

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esm "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Eric Location: Location,Location Watch: this, bro... Posts: 15,340	thank you Sir.

29 December 2010, 08:00 AM	#7
malnik "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Los Angeles Watch: Sub-Date-C Posts: 240	Care to also explain what does Oyster mean?

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JBat "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: John Location: Washington Watch: 16710, 16610, DJ Posts: 7,329	Good info, Chris, thanks.

29 December 2010, 08:06 AM	#15
barstoolman Banned Join Date: May 2007 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 801	Professional is Rolex's way of saying, what we lay people refer to as a "tool" watch...something designed with a specific purpose or use in mind.

29 December 2010, 08:44 AM	#17
Roxas "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Earth Watch: 14060M Posts: 516	GMT is a sports model because its look is casual. From my understanding, sports means casual and dress means formal.

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