Real or Fake Sub?

[KJacques]

This sent all kinds of warning flares up, but I cannot tell if it is a fake from these poor pictures. The only thing that looks off to me is the luminiescent markers look a little large in a couple of pictures. The first one looks more normal, but it also looks like a stolen pic. I seriously doubt that it is genuine, but on the off chance it is, it could go for a ridiculous price due to how poor the ad is.

Perhaps that is the strategy of a good scammer? Get you to take a chance on a great deal. Those are brave souls bidding on this one.


http://cgi.ebay.com/Rolex-Submariner...QQcmdZViewItem

Kevin

[Rubenonfire]

My general E-Bay rule of thumb is that "if it looks dubious, it probably is." Hard to tell from those pictures, but that looks like a maxi dial on a sub. The only one that I know has that is the LV, and maybe some of the MUCH older vintage models. Guys?

[SPACE-DWELLER]

Yup. I agree. The dial markers look too big. Like the dial for the 16610LV. But I don't think you can buy that dial for the 16610.

And: under 1 day left and it's still under 400 US?

Well, if it is too good to be true, it is probably too good to be true!

[mikey]

if you have to ask? its fake-Go to an AD or a Pawnshop that advertises selling Rolex

[President]

I think it's a fake.

[mike]

LOL!

[Prince]

"I didn't find any papers for it so the watch is the only thing I have."

I wonder why?!?

[Nick Hacko]

[Rubenonfire]

Originally Posted by Nick Hacko

No, the dial is correct (it is not not maxi) but everything else just stinks.

Nick-
In the first picture it's the standard dial, but in the others (that look they were ACTUALLY taken by the seller) that's a maxi. Gotta be, right?

[ashu2289]

Originally Posted by Rubenonfire

Nick-
In the first picture it's the standard dial, but in the others (that look they were ACTUALLY taken by the seller) that's a maxi. Gotta be, right?

Yeah the pictures taken by the seller are having the maxi dial n fat hands also n tht itself is enuf for its indication of a FAKE

[Alcan]

Originally Posted by KJacques

I cannot tell if it is a fake from these poor pictures.

Run like hell, it's a scam..

[Nick Hacko]

[KJacques]

Originally Posted by Rubenonfire

Nick-
In the first picture it's the standard dial, but in the others (that look they were ACTUALLY taken by the seller) that's a maxi. Gotta be, right?

That first photo looks authentic, but it also looks like a stock photo taken from somewhere. The dial on the other photos definitely have larger markers.

Here is a paste of the dial superimposed over a real sub dial. I notice a definite difference in the 1, which on the other sub dial looks like a l instead of a 1. Also, the m is over the wrong spot.

[Taco]

Originally Posted by ashu2289

Yeah the pictures taken by the seller are having the maxi dial n fat hands also n tht itself is enuf for its indication of a FAKE

Ummm... Looks IDENTICAL to mine (hands, font, clasp)... Can't vouch for it's authenticity, but does look rather good from here.

Agreed though, seems too good to be true...

[Flyjet601]

Fake-o-roonie

Nevershows the date magnification ands the dial looks like a maxi dial. Also the font on the bezel looks wrong.

[TARDIS]

AVOID IT LIKE THE PLAGUE

[JJ Irani]

Sirius buyers only - enough said!!

[leopardprey]

Run Forest, Run!

[trashboss]

Also the Rolex logo on the winding crown looks odd and the shoulders around it look wrong too, to me.

What does he mean by "I didn't find any papers for it so the watch is the only thing I have." What kind of moron cant find the papers for his Rolex and does this indicate that there isnt a box either?????

[leopardprey]

well that in itself does not mean much. I have see some very good copies of the Rolex warranty, and it is easy to get a hold of a Rolex box. Also, there are some people who have lost their warranty papers or boxes. I just sold one of my Rolex boxes to a second hand dealer. Did not want to travel around with the extra bulk of the box, and got a pretty good deal on it. It was either sell the box or throw it away. I got $100 for the inner and outer box. The dealer liked it cause he can now put one of his second hand rolex watches in the box.

[SPACE-DWELLER]

Originally Posted by KJacques

That first photo looks authentic, but it also looks like a stock photo taken from somewhere. The dial on the other photos definitely have larger markers.

Here is a paste of the dial superimposed over a real sub dial. I notice a definite difference in the 1, which on the other sub dial looks like a l instead of a 1. Also, the m is over the wrong spot.

VERY well observed! You're right! The "1" is wrong, and the "m" is supposed to be exactly over the "M" in "Chronometer".

[KJacques]

8 hours left in this auction and the bidding is nearly $800, which is some serious change for a fake watch. I noticed ebay now doesn't allow you to see who is bidding on something so you cannot warn them that they are about to be scammed. I know that I would appreciate being warned ahead of time if I was about to make a mistake.

Everyone is responsible for their own actions, by that I mean, if you think you're gonna find a rolex sub for a steal, you're the one who is gonna get robbed. It's is your gamble. But still, I hate seeing someone scamming people out of money.

Kevin