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Mr. Clean · 26 January 2012, 12:44 AM

Hi Guys,

Is this a good buy at $4,500.00? The seller says it's a 37mil series circa 1973, with all original parts. I'm torn between this and a 2007 16610 at the same price. Thanks! Cheers!

bayerische · 26 January 2012, 01:20 AM

I would take the 5513.
But it's up to you, do you need a date?

swish77 · 26 January 2012, 01:27 AM

Assuming that the vintage Sub is all original and no major mechanical problems (can't really tell much from that one photo), take the 5513. That's a very good price. Nice patina on the dial, although the hands look a little darker perhaps, but that's minor. Could just be the photo. Good luck!

Mr. Clean · 26 January 2012, 01:43 AM

Thanks guys for affirming, I'm actually leaning towards the 5513

azguy · 26 January 2012, 02:10 AM

It seems like a good price for that watch, but it's very differant than 16610.

Are you active and in and out of the water, etc

hatidua · 26 January 2012, 05:01 AM

Easy choice, the 5513.

Robbyvm · 26 January 2012, 05:42 AM

Go for the 5513, nice watch (based on this one pic)
Patina ok, bezel inser ok, pearl present, lugs invisible on this pic, dialcseems nice, crysal in good condition...

Little cleanup and she's ready to go !

meojay · 26 January 2012, 06:33 AM

Having just bought a 5513 myself, I would say that it is a good price. Hands might have a bit of corrosion, but so what. Question is what are you after? If you want to watch simply for effect (i.e. presence) then go the modern. If you are wanting to stand out from the crowd then take the 5513. Similarly, if the watch will have a hard life (do you intend to swim or dive with it), perhaps the modern is a better choice. Very different beasts. I know what I would take though! plexi watches simply look better IMO!

vmaglio74 · 26 January 2012, 06:38 AM

5513!

mike · 26 January 2012, 06:42 AM

Well,..I think it's a question of functionality. The 5513 is the iconic vintage for many. That said, is a measure of luminosity and a date important to you?

mysonsrolex · 26 January 2012, 06:49 AM

as a fellow 5513 owner +1

Rod. · 26 January 2012, 12:23 PM

I just got my 5513 back yesterday after a full factory overhaul. They stated its current replacement value as CAD$6320 + taxes. Is the bracelet original? I'm thinking it should be a 9315 with folded links.

The asking price for yours seems fair, but you cam expect to spend most of another $1000 for a factory overhaul if it's needed.

Rod.

Mr. Clean · 26 January 2012, 03:52 PM

Thanks for all the Feedbacks. I've asked the seller if there are mechanical issues on the watch. Yes, I think the selling price is good, but do you think it's still a good buy even if I spend another $1000 for the overhaul? Tia

Mark020 · 26 January 2012, 06:48 PM

Watch itself is ok but the hands look earlier to me?

phillycheez · 26 January 2012, 07:12 PM

5513 for sure but (maybe its just me?) I would look for a better example...

Paulie 50 · 26 January 2012, 07:22 PM

I think the term is " No Brainer ". Good luck with the 5513.

Robbyvm · 26 January 2012, 08:37 PM

don't be to mislead by its current condition
with little effort you can turn this watch into a beauty

my 5513 before and after some inhouse cleaning

after

Mr. Clean · 26 January 2012, 11:09 PM

Sorry but I can't seem to edit my post, providing you additional pictures from the seller. He confirmed that there are no mechanical problems and there is no corrosion on the hands. This will be my first vintage that's why I don't know what to expect:) I hope you guys understand. Thanks a lot!

Mr. Clean · 26 January 2012, 11:11 PM

[QUOTE=Robbyvm;3023509]don't be to mislead by its current condition
with little effort you can turn this watch into a beauty

Thanks a lot! You did such a wonderful job on your 5513!

jedly1 · 28 January 2012, 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Clean

Sorry but I can't seem to edit my post, providing you additional pictures from the seller. He confirmed that there are no mechanical problems and there is no corrosion on the hands. This will be my first vintage that's why I don't know what to expect:) I hope you guys understand. Thanks a lot!

the dial is shot from 53 through 60 ...walk away.

Mr. Clean · 28 January 2012, 10:15 AM

Hi thanks a lot for this I almost pulled the trigger today

Rennfahrer · 28 January 2012, 11:39 AM

That's a nice, honest looking and well "loved" 5513. Do it!

Jason71 · 28 January 2012, 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jedly1

the dial is shot from 53 through 60 ...walk away.

Listen to the master

Mr. Clean · 28 January 2012, 09:19 PM

This is getting confusing hehe... I really appreciate your feedbacks since I'm new to vintage. Although I think I will pass on this one! The search is still on for my first vintage...

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HL65 · 28 January 2012, 09:53 PM

Good move as that is anything but a nice example.

RolexSA · 28 January 2012, 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Clean

This is getting confusing hehe... I really appreciate your feedbacks since I'm new to vintage. Although I think I will pass on this one! The search is still on for my first vintage...

What is confusing ? What part of " the dial is shot " is confusing ? Rolex vintage watches is all about the dial being original and in what condition .

Mr. Clean · 29 January 2012, 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RolexSA

What is confusing ? What part of " the dial is shot " is confusing ? Rolex vintage watches is all about the dial being original and in what condition .

Hi actually the confusion is on my part whether I'll buy this or not. Since I know nothing about Rolex vintage, I might as well heed the advise of experts here. They are referring to the 53 to 60 seconds markers as shot. Thanks

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sailmed · 29 January 2012, 12:52 AM

When you are paying these prices for a vintage watch, you are paying for a well preserved (or worth preserving)example of the marque.

This one is not: as was previously indicated, the dial is not up to collector standards.

You would be better off paying $1000 more for a good example in the long run.

Work with some of the well known guys on the forum who will not steer you wrong and you will not regret the decision.

Mr. Clean · 29 January 2012, 01:42 AM

Thanks a lot! No more confusion for me. I'm definitely passing up on this one. Thanks a lot for taking time to answer my concerns. I'm so glad to be part of this forum!

Cheers!

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azguy · 29 January 2012, 01:52 AM

Passing was a good idea, a lot of the value of that watch is in the dial and I would prefer one that was in much better shape.....

26 January 2012, 12:44 AM	#1
Mr. Clean "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Elmer Location: Philippines Watch: 116523,16622,PM111 Posts: 119	5513 is this a good buy? Hi Guys, Is this a good buy at $4,500.00? The seller says it's a 37mil series circa 1973, with all original parts. I'm torn between this and a 2007 16610 at the same price. Thanks! Cheers!

26 January 2012, 01:20 AM	#2
bayerische "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Andreas Location: Margaritaville Watch: Smurf Posts: 19,879	I would take the 5513. But it's up to you, do you need a date? __________________ Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

28 January 2012, 09:53 PM	#25
HL65 TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Ken Location: SW Florida Watch: One on my wrist. Posts: 64,006	Good move as that is anything but a nice example. __________________ *SPEM SUCCESSUS ALIT*

29 January 2012, 12:52 AM	#28
sailmed "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: Barry Location: Newtown Square Watch: Red Sub, 5513, FF Posts: 299	When you are paying these prices for a vintage watch, you are paying for a well preserved (or worth preserving)example of the marque. This one is not: as was previously indicated, the dial is not up to collector standards. You would be better off paying $1000 more for a good example in the long run. Work with some of the well known guys on the forum who will not steer you wrong and you will not regret the decision. __________________ "Primum non nocere."

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26 January 2012, 01:27 AM	#3
swish77 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Aaron Location: CT/NYC Watch: ing the time! Posts: 6,999	Assuming that the vintage Sub is all original and no major mechanical problems (can't really tell much from that one photo), take the 5513. That's a very good price. Nice patina on the dial, although the hands look a little darker perhaps, but that's minor. Could just be the photo. Good luck!

26 January 2012, 01:43 AM	#4
Mr. Clean "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Elmer Location: Philippines Watch: 116523,16622,PM111 Posts: 119	Thanks guys for affirming, I'm actually leaning towards the 5513

26 January 2012, 02:10 AM	#5
azguy Banned Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: ------- Location: ------- Watch: --------- Posts: 12,609	It seems like a good price for that watch, but it's very differant than 16610. Are you active and in and out of the water, etc

26 January 2012, 05:01 AM	#6
hatidua Banned Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Colorado Posts: 158	Easy choice, the 5513.

26 January 2012, 05:42 AM	#7
Robbyvm "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Belgium Posts: 2,239	Go for the 5513, nice watch (based on this one pic) Patina ok, bezel inser ok, pearl present, lugs invisible on this pic, dialcseems nice, crysal in good condition... Little cleanup and she's ready to go !

26 January 2012, 06:33 AM	#8
meojay "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Sydney Watch: Rolex 5513 Posts: 9	Having just bought a 5513 myself, I would say that it is a good price. Hands might have a bit of corrosion, but so what. Question is what are you after? If you want to watch simply for effect (i.e. presence) then go the modern. If you are wanting to stand out from the crowd then take the 5513. Similarly, if the watch will have a hard life (do you intend to swim or dive with it), perhaps the modern is a better choice. Very different beasts. I know what I would take though! plexi watches simply look better IMO!

26 January 2012, 06:38 AM	#9
vmaglio74 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: NYC Watch: Rolex Posts: 123	5513!

26 January 2012, 06:42 AM	#10
mike "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 22,683	Well,..I think it's a question of functionality. The 5513 is the iconic vintage for many. That said, is a measure of luminosity and a date important to you?

26 January 2012, 06:49 AM	#11
mysonsrolex "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Qld / Aus Watch: 5711 Posts: 150	as a fellow 5513 owner +1

26 January 2012, 12:23 PM	#12
Rod. "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: Rod. Location: Canada Watch: 5513 Posts: 118	I just got my 5513 back yesterday after a full factory overhaul. They stated its current replacement value as CAD$6320 + taxes. Is the bracelet original? I'm thinking it should be a 9315 with folded links. The asking price for yours seems fair, but you cam expect to spend most of another $1000 for a factory overhaul if it's needed. Rod.

26 January 2012, 03:52 PM	#13
Mr. Clean "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Elmer Location: Philippines Watch: 116523,16622,PM111 Posts: 119	Thanks for all the Feedbacks. I've asked the seller if there are mechanical issues on the watch. Yes, I think the selling price is good, but do you think it's still a good buy even if I spend another $1000 for the overhaul? Tia

26 January 2012, 06:48 PM	#14
Mark020 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 2,133	Watch itself is ok but the hands look earlier to me?

26 January 2012, 07:12 PM	#15
phillycheez "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Portland Posts: 398	5513 for sure but (maybe its just me?) I would look for a better example...

26 January 2012, 07:22 PM	#16
Paulie 50 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Lancs. England Posts: 1,000	I think the term is " No Brainer ". Good luck with the 5513.

26 January 2012, 08:37 PM	#17
Robbyvm "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Belgium Posts: 2,239	don't be to mislead by its current condition with little effort you can turn this watch into a beauty my 5513 before and after some inhouse cleaning after

26 January 2012, 11:09 PM	#18
Mr. Clean "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Elmer Location: Philippines Watch: 116523,16622,PM111 Posts: 119	Sorry but I can't seem to edit my post, providing you additional pictures from the seller. He confirmed that there are no mechanical problems and there is no corrosion on the hands. This will be my first vintage that's why I don't know what to expect:) I hope you guys understand. Thanks a lot!

26 January 2012, 11:11 PM	#19
Mr. Clean "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Elmer Location: Philippines Watch: 116523,16622,PM111 Posts: 119	[QUOTE=Robbyvm;3023509]don't be to mislead by its current condition with little effort you can turn this watch into a beauty Thanks a lot! You did such a wonderful job on your 5513!

28 January 2012, 10:15 AM	#21
Mr. Clean "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Elmer Location: Philippines Watch: 116523,16622,PM111 Posts: 119	Hi thanks a lot for this I almost pulled the trigger today

28 January 2012, 11:39 AM	#22
Rennfahrer "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Real Name: Patrick Location: NC Watch: 1967 5512 Posts: 93	That's a nice, honest looking and well "loved" 5513. Do it!

28 January 2012, 09:19 PM	#24
Mr. Clean "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Elmer Location: Philippines Watch: 116523,16622,PM111 Posts: 119	This is getting confusing hehe... I really appreciate your feedbacks since I'm new to vintage. Although I think I will pass on this one! The search is still on for my first vintage... Sent from my iPhone 4S using Tapatalk

29 January 2012, 01:42 AM	#29
Mr. Clean "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Elmer Location: Philippines Watch: 116523,16622,PM111 Posts: 119	Thanks a lot! No more confusion for me. I'm definitely passing up on this one. Thanks a lot for taking time to answer my concerns. I'm so glad to be part of this forum! Cheers! Sent from my iPhone 4S using Tapatalk

29 January 2012, 01:52 AM	#30
azguy Banned Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: ------- Location: ------- Watch: --------- Posts: 12,609	Passing was a good idea, a lot of the value of that watch is in the dial and I would prefer one that was in much better shape.....

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