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Old 26 August 2007, 07:20 AM   #1
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Icon17 Is This Thing Shot?

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Is this worth owning, or is it severely stressed? Never owned a Rolex jubilee, nor paid much attention to my Seiko's.

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Old 26 August 2007, 07:21 AM   #2
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A bit stretched, I'd say.

Sometimes, taking a link or two out will make a really stretched Jubilee bracelet wearable again. Is that one yours?
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Old 26 August 2007, 07:23 AM   #3
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Is that one yours?
No...one I'm considering purchasing for my dad to make his vintage GMT wearable again (I can't find rivet TT oyster links).
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Old 26 August 2007, 07:24 AM   #4
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No...one I'm considering purchasing for my dad to make his vintage GMT wearable again (I can't find rivet TT oyster links).
Is it online or one you can actually get your hands on? If you could see it and touch it, you might be able to determine if it would work or if it is too shot to be usable.
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Old 26 August 2007, 07:25 AM   #5
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Jubilees are much more flexible than oyster bracelets...

It's not possible to tell if it is "shot" from your photo.

This one is in excellent condition and will twist somewhat when off the watch..
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Old 26 August 2007, 07:37 AM   #6
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Again I can only vaguely remember having read a post (or thread?) about some guy that is an absolute ARTIST in restoring even the most severely stretched bracelets.

Some of the "old hands" here probably know who I am talking about (I for my part cannot remember his name).
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Old 26 August 2007, 07:37 AM   #7
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Is it online or one you can actually get your hands on? If you could see it and touch it, you might be able to determine if it would work or if it is too shot to be usable.
Nope, can't touch it. And that's the only picture depicting twist.

However, when did Rolex switch from 14k to 18k? Might give some indication of age.
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Old 26 August 2007, 07:39 AM   #8
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No...one I'm considering purchasing for my dad to make his vintage GMT wearable again (I can't find rivet TT oyster links).
Still no luck finding those riveted links?

Don't be too hasty! Those links are RARE, so be a little more patient.
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Old 26 August 2007, 07:39 AM   #9
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...However, when did Rolex switch from 14k to 18k? Might give some indication of age.
I believe they switched from 14k to 18k around 1977.
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Old 26 August 2007, 07:49 AM   #10
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I believe they switched from 14k to 18k around 1977.
Oh. Thought it was a tad more recent.
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Old 26 August 2007, 04:51 PM   #11
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I believe they switched from 14k to 18k around 1977.
Not too sure about that, Allan.

My very first TT DJ purchased in 1980 (brand new from an AD in Teheran, Iran) had 14 K gold links and bezel with an acrylic crystal - model 16013.

It had the marking D14 on the inner clasp. Later models (16233, soon after the transition from 14 K to 18 K), had the D18 mark on the inner clasp next to the part number.

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Is this worth owning, or is it severely stressed? Never owned a Rolex jubilee, nor paid much attention to my Seiko's.

Sterling,

My very first TT DJ purchased way back in 1980, had the same problem after about 6~7 years of use.

Nothing wrong with the links....just that the inter-connecting pins have bent slightly and thus spread out the links.

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Old 26 August 2007, 07:22 PM   #13
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Old 26 August 2007, 07:23 PM   #14
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I think that it's a bit stretched
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Old 26 August 2007, 08:46 PM   #15
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Not too sure about that, Allan...
Just going by what Dowling and Hess say in The Best of Time. I wasn't in a position in 1977 to buy a Rolex personally.
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Old 26 August 2007, 10:06 PM   #16
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Chad, seems to me there isn't much stretch in that picture you posted... ;o)
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Old 27 August 2007, 01:08 AM   #17
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Sterling,

Nothing wrong with the links....just that the inter-connecting pins have bent slightly and thus spread out the links.

Can the bracelt be serviced by a run of the mill jeweler to replace bracelet links if that seems to be the problem?
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Old 27 August 2007, 01:16 AM   #18
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Sterling, if you buy that bracelet and it turns out not to be as good as you hoped, you might want to contact Michael Young at Classic Watch Parts, Hong Kong:

http://www.classicwatchparts.com/

Several members here have used his services to refurbish bracelets, and they come back looking new. Here's a link to one such thread.

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthrea...et+restoration

Classic Watch parts might even have the rivet TT oyster links you need for your current bracelet.

Good luck.
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