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Old 14 September 2007, 06:18 AM   #1
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Explorer hand stability ?

Thanks in advance for any help here. I change the hour on my Exp II quite a lot. I've noticed from new that when I change the 12 hour hand there is some small play in the 24hr and hour hand - not a lot, but it's bugging me. Should the other hands remain completely still when I change the time zone ?

Not overly bothered - but does this need attention ?
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Old 14 September 2007, 06:22 AM   #2
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Play in the hands (ESPECIALLY the minute hand, although I know you are not talking about the minute hand) is a common thing.

Annoying, yes! But common.

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Old 14 September 2007, 06:24 AM   #3
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Thanks in advance for any help here. I change the hour on my Exp II quite a lot. I've noticed from new that when I change the 12 hour hand there is some small play in the 24hr and hour hand - not a lot, but it's bugging me. Should the other hands remain completely still when I change the time zone ?

Not overly bothered - but does this need attention ?
If I'm understanding you correctly it's ok. There's a bit of wobble in mt GMT-IIs. Both references de-couple the 12 and 24 hr. hands when using the dual timezone feature. Not like the older 1675/16750s that do not de-couple.
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Old 14 September 2007, 06:30 AM   #4
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If I'm understanding you correctly it's ok. There's a bit of wobble in mt GMT-IIs. Both references de-couple the 12 and 24 hr. hands when using the dual timezone feature. Not like the older 1675/16750s that do not de-couple.
I trust Mike when it comes to GMT matters
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Old 14 September 2007, 06:33 AM   #5
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Thanks Guys...appreciated.....yup Bo, I meant the minute hand...
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Old 14 September 2007, 06:40 AM   #6
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Thanks Guys...appreciated.....yup Bo, I meant the minute hand...
Ah! the minute hand! Yes! It's called backlash. Very common and a bit irritating when trying to set the time precisely. It's my understanding the new 3186 movement is supposed to go a long way in curing it. I've noticed no problems with my 116710.
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Thanks Guys...appreciated.....yup Bo, I meant the minute hand...
Yes, as I wrote, that has been annoying me for an long time, too.

But if you read my description of how the wind/set your watch in the FAQ section on top of the Rolex main forum, I believe I described how to at least make the minute hand point EXACTLY on the given minute when the second hand reaches 12.

FAQ's: "Winding setting your watch". Click and scroll down!

There I wrote:

"7) If you want to make the minute hand points EXACTLY on the given minute when the seconds hand has reached "12" (or "60" seconds), then you must know that there is some "play" in the hands.
So if you just set the minute hand according to our example (EXACTLY 11 AM so that the minute hand will point exactly on the 12) then you will notice that by "one minute past 11 AM" the minute hand will NOT (or probably not!) point EXACTLY and spot on on the minute but rather somewhat (like 15 seconds) PAST it due to the "play" in the hands."

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Old 14 September 2007, 09:05 AM   #8
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there is defnitely play. even in the new movement. perfectly normal!
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Old 14 September 2007, 09:22 AM   #9
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My explorer II is exactly the same....don't sweat it.....
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Old 14 September 2007, 09:23 AM   #10
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If I'm understanding you correctly it's ok. There's a bit of wobble in mt GMT-IIs. Both references de-couple the 12 and 24 hr. hands when using the dual timezone feature. Not like the older 1675/16750s that do not de-couple.
I agree
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Old 14 September 2007, 12:06 PM   #11
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My explorer II is exactly the same....don't sweat it.....

Mine too.
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Old 15 September 2007, 01:45 AM   #12
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Explorer 24-hour hand synch

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Old 15 September 2007, 01:53 AM   #13
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Hey guys - anyone had any issues with the 24-hour hand being ever so slightly out of step with the hour-hand?
Just got me an Explorer II but noticed that it takes the minute hand to be 5/6 minutes after the corresponding hour to get the 24 hour hand spot-on the right place. The normal hour and minute hands sych up just fine. What you reckon? Being a bit of a perfectionist? The casual observor would never notice it, but once you know something isn't right it does tend to stand out more!
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Old 15 September 2007, 08:16 AM   #14
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Hey guys - anyone had any issues with the 24-hour hand being ever so slightly out of step with the hour-hand?
Just got me an Explorer II but noticed that it takes the minute hand to be 5/6 minutes after the corresponding hour to get the 24 hour hand spot-on the right place. The normal hour and minute hands sych up just fine. What you reckon? Being a bit of a perfectionist? The casual observor would never notice it, but once you know something isn't right it does tend to stand out more!
I've heard of this. I'm not a watchmaker, but it may have something to do with the hand stack not quite meshing together. On a new watch, I think I'd have that taken care of by Rolex. Not what you want when spending that much money.
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Old 15 September 2007, 06:46 PM   #15
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Thanks Mike. I'll see how I feel about it in a few weeks. Am also finding that strenuous activity can add as much as a few seconds over a very short time (swimming, squash etc.) versus staying accurate when not being worn, so may have to have it looked at for that, too, though I imagine certain activities do tend to have an effect....
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Old 15 September 2007, 06:49 PM   #16
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Thanks Mike. I'll see how I feel about it in a few weeks. Am also finding that strenuous activity can add as much as a few seconds over a very short time (swimming, squash etc.) versus staying accurate when not being worn, so may have to have it looked at for that, too, though I imagine certain activities do tend to have an effect....

Yes Londonguy your watch is not very precise because it is not consistent in its timekeeping.

Since it is still under your warranty I would believe, just send the watch back and tell them what you observed with the hand stability and the timekeeping. Im sure Rolex will remedy the problem without taking too much time and it will be free of charge to you.

Theres nothing more important than to be content with what you had purchased.

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Old 15 September 2007, 07:01 PM   #17
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Alas, I fear you are right. Might even just demand a replacement since it's only been out the box a week!
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