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Old 10 October 2012, 06:53 AM   #1
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Some help with a 16610LV

I came over this 16610LV for sale. But the seller knows nothing about the watch what so ever. He says he inherited it from his mother who died. I have asked him for the serial number, but he knows not were it is, so I have tried to explain to him were he can find it. Hopefully he will find it and send it to me.

From my point of view it seems a little strange why his mother would have a watch like this, why he wants to sell it and why he knows nothing about it. But maybe its just me being skeptical because I know there is so many fake Rolexe's out there.

Anyways these are the photos he have posted of the watch. They are very bad and not easy to see much, but I know some of you are very good at spotting fake Rolexe's. So what do you people think, do it look ok from these photos?



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Old 10 October 2012, 07:04 AM   #2
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Did he advertise it as "16610LV"?

(There is no LV reference on the warranty card...)

The engraved rehaut doesn't look right from these angles
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Old 10 October 2012, 07:07 AM   #3
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The engraved rehaut doesn't look right from these angles
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Old 10 October 2012, 07:28 AM   #4
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Did he advertise it as "16610LV"?

(There is no LV reference on the warranty card...)

The engraved rehaut doesn't look right from these angles
All it says in the advertise title is "Rolex", and in the text it says "very little used Rolex Submariner" But I figured it would be a 16610LV, because of the green bezel. But him or his mother might have changed it. But that seems little strange to me, if it is true that he knows nothing about Rolex as he said.

No he have not said anything about warranty card or nothing. I have asked him on mail if a warranty card follows. He has not yet responded. Maybe I should just steer away from this one. But it is the only 16610LV (If it is one) for sale in Norway. I will just have to wait and see what response I get from him.
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Old 10 October 2012, 07:32 AM   #5
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I can not see the pictures.
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Old 10 October 2012, 07:54 AM   #6
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Perhaps plan on meeting him at an AD's location to verify if its authentic.
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Old 10 October 2012, 07:57 AM   #7
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Old 10 October 2012, 07:59 AM   #8
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May be my old eyes but does the font on 'Certified' look wrong too?
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Old 10 October 2012, 08:12 AM   #9
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Old 10 October 2012, 08:13 AM   #10
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How much does he want for this anyway?

Does it have a hologram sticker on the case back?
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Old 10 October 2012, 08:20 AM   #11
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Old 10 October 2012, 08:20 AM   #12
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Perhaps plan on meeting him at an AD's location to verify if its authentic.
Yes, but it is a six hour drive. But I guess that will be the case if I end up making a deal with him. I am very skeptical about this watch, and posting the photos here did not make me any less skeptical. But anyway I will first see if I get a response from him on my questions. If I get a response I will post it here, and also ask him for some more photos of the watch.

Anyway thanks for the response from all of you so fare.
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Old 10 October 2012, 09:18 AM   #13
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How much does he want for this anyway?

Does it have a hologram sticker on the case back?
He asks $ 7,000,- for it. But I do not care about the asking price. After I am done doing my background work, and if I am still interested I will give an offer I think is fair considering the risk I take.

I do not know if it got a hologram sticker. Those two photos in my first post is the only photos he got in his advertising.

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Yes that is a very good point, something I usually do, and also will do here wean I have revived some more information.
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Old 10 October 2012, 09:25 AM   #14
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"buy your seller, then buy your watch."

I would not do business with someone like this, you are just begging for an expensive problem.
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Old 10 October 2012, 09:56 AM   #15
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The pics aren't that great. I've seen authentic watches dials photograph like this but IMHO I'd walk. It could just as easily be a BS story and a fake watch. $7k can get you one from a great seller all day if you look so why even mess with it? Just my thoughts.
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Old 10 October 2012, 10:42 AM   #16
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Even if the pics were good it doesn't mean that is the one you'll get in the mail.
BUY THE SELLER and in this case DON'T BUY THE WATCH.
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Old 10 October 2012, 10:47 AM   #17
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When in doubt, walk. There are many lvs for sale. It needn't be this one that you buy.
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Old 10 October 2012, 11:39 AM   #18
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Bad pics are a deal killer. Time to move on methinks
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Old 10 October 2012, 11:59 AM   #19
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Old 10 October 2012, 12:07 PM   #20
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for 7k u can get one of those almost anywhere.....
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Old 10 October 2012, 03:51 PM   #21
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you need more pics
7000 $ is correct, but if you are sure that is not fake
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Old 10 October 2012, 05:14 PM   #22
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Engraved rehaut with the several number blurred out...but he doesn't know where the serial number is? And whats wrong with the U in Submariner?
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Old 10 October 2012, 05:22 PM   #23
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Wouldn't even think about it.
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Old 10 October 2012, 05:27 PM   #24
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Comparing it to mine it is close but the bezel looks mis-alligned.
The price is high at 7K.
If you can have it checked at a RSC then it's your decision.
Some fakes of the LV are difficult to spot until you have it in the palm of your hand IMO.
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Old 10 October 2012, 05:54 PM   #25
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Those two photos in my first post is the only photos he got in his advertising.
Surely he'd more than happy to provide more on request since he is hoping someone would buy his $7k watch. Unless he has something to hide.
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So what if it's the only one for sale in Norway.
Buy from a trusted TRF seller and deal with confidence.
Good luck but I'd definately steer clear of that one.
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Old 10 October 2012, 06:14 PM   #27
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Dodgy story and iffy pics to date suggests to me to walk away.
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Old 10 October 2012, 08:44 PM   #28
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I got a short response. It is a v-seriel and he told me he only got the box and the watch no warranty card or anything else. I will leave this one alone, and wait for another one.

As someone said I can buy it from this forum, and I have actually bought two Rolex's from DavidSW earlier. The only problem is that in Norway we have to pay 25% tax wean importing the watch to Norway.

Also the prices on used Rolex's in Norway are usually identical with the international prices and the prices on this forum sometimes even lower. I gave $5,850 for my random serial Milgauss GV from Jan 2012 in Norway. This is why paying 25% extra tax for the watch because I buy it outside of Norway is not very tempting. Also for some reason it is easier to resell watches in Norway that was originally purchased from one of the few AD's we got in Norway, rather then USA, England or China for that matter. Maybe because the buyers are familiar with the AD's we got in Norway and that creates a safety.

So even dough I know it is a lot better selection here and I also know sellers like DavidSW is 100% trustworthy it is not all ways worth paying 20-30% extra for.
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I don't like it. I'm almost sure I can see the lec when I blowup pic. Also rehut crown looks off the mark. I would pass for sure.
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Old 11 October 2012, 10:15 PM   #30
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I got a short response. It is a v-seriel and he told me he only got the box and the watch no warranty card or anything else. I will leave this one alone, and wait for another one.

As someone said I can buy it from this forum, and I have actually bought two Rolex's from DavidSW earlier. The only problem is that in Norway we have to pay 25% tax wean importing the watch to Norway.

Also the prices on used Rolex's in Norway are usually identical with the international prices and the prices on this forum sometimes even lower. I gave $5,850 for my random serial Milgauss GV from Jan 2012 in Norway. This is why paying 25% extra tax for the watch because I buy it outside of Norway is not very tempting. Also for some reason it is easier to resell watches in Norway that was originally purchased from one of the few AD's we got in Norway, rather then USA, England or China for that matter. Maybe because the buyers are familiar with the AD's we got in Norway and that creates a safety.

So even dough I know it is a lot better selection here and I also know sellers like DavidSW is 100% trustworthy it is not all ways worth paying 20-30% extra for.
I resell watches in Norway.
Trust the seller, and this forum is a great way to get genuine watches. Also they are very friendly :)
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