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cruvon · 10 October 2012, 02:37 PM

Includes Free Pickup:)..had sold in 2008 for a little over $400k, so a $3 mill bid on the opening day itself looks very sus considering this letter has nothing to do with E=mc**2 or any of his famed scientific theories. But you never know what a bidder is thinking or could just be a fake bid inner job to promote ones ideology and/or the letters price! Plus why not wait till the last few minutes/seconds of the auction to bid this high if one is hell bent on winning it?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=190736802914

http://www.latimes.com/business/tech...,3985072.story

BNA/LION · 10 October 2012, 03:02 PM

You can buy a Bad Ace watch collection for $3 mil!

cruvon · 10 October 2012, 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BNALION

You can buy a Bad Ace watch collection for $3 mil!

or even this Patek's a better buy:)..we all know one can't wear papers;)
http://blog.perpetuelle.com/special-...0-in-platinum/

threemonkeys · 10 October 2012, 03:26 PM

Kind of funny that the seller's feedback is anything but stellar.

cruvon · 10 October 2012, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by threemonkeys

Kind of funny that the seller's feedback is anything but stellar.

You're right, plus all he's sold in the last year are mostly items worth less then $50 each so def not a Art House auction!

Things like

ShoeMint Dayna (Blue) (#190725392271) US $27.99 View Item ShoeMint Dayna (Blue)
StyleMint Melrose T Ballet Slipper (#190725515604) US $14.00
intiMINT Bella Bralette (#190724696126) US $13.99
HomeMint Westwood Washed Cotton King Fitted Sheet (Greige) (#190725023618) US $21.00

InTime · 10 October 2012, 04:45 PM

lol i thought you meant free pick up truck. ha

Too Old · 10 October 2012, 05:36 PM

Paypal Preferred too!!!

bayerische · 10 October 2012, 06:15 PM

I'm not sure it's worth that much. Publicity stunt?

Manofsteelpt · 10 October 2012, 10:20 PM

Why don't they bring it to Rick at Pawn Stars to sell, lol

Notice the bidder has 0 feedbacks too.

77T · 11 October 2012, 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Manofsteelpt

Notice the bidder has 0 feedbacks too.

Seller must not be very choosey

"This listing is restricted to pre-approved buyers only. Email the seller to be placed on that pre-approved list."

wantonebad · 11 October 2012, 06:04 AM

It's a significant piece of history and an important document. It can be argued that Einstein wasn't the most important physicist of the 20th century or that even some of his theories were flawed. What can't be argued is his status as scientific and cultural icon. He personified science for many and was the defacto "learned man" of the time.

When he wrote that letter to Gutkind it was a kind of chastisement or lecture on what Einstein viewed as a bunch of voodoo and Gutkind's perpetuation of that voodoo. Religon and science have been warring for centuries even still they're at each others throats. Little common ground exists and this letter is the clear view of a man who felt stongly his side had the only logical answer and it was his responsibility to set Gutkind straight.

Watchonisto · 11 October 2012, 06:26 AM

GradyPhilpott · 11 October 2012, 07:10 AM

http://www.theatlantic.com/technolog...-ebay/263334/#

wantonebad · 11 October 2012, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by GradyPhilpott

http://www.theatlantic.com/technolog...-ebay/263334/#

Interesting, I read the letter years ago but just realized in this article that Einstein cited Freud, ironic since one of the subjects that broke Jung and Freud apart was god, oh, that and sleeping with patients...

Skeptical · 11 October 2012, 01:11 PM

As a member of the "skeptical community" I have heard of this letter, and had saw an announcement a while ago that it would be going up for auction. I see no reason to doubt its authenticity.

TheVTCGuy · 11 October 2012, 03:05 PM

So... the seller's last deal was $20 cerial bowls? And now he's auctioning off a THREE MILLION DOLLAR ITEM?

bayerische · 11 October 2012, 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheVTCGuy

So... the seller's last deal was $20 cerial bowls? And now he's auctioning off a THREE MILLION DOLLAR ITEM?

Yeah, very strange indeed....

Smells all the way to Helsinki.

Grissom · 11 October 2012, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Skeptical

As a member of the "skeptical community" I have heard of this letter, and had saw an announcement a while ago that it would be going up for auction. I see no reason to doubt its authenticity.

I think what's "skeptical" about this may be the "English" translation.....from what I have read, so if "content" is what one would be after, the accurateness of the English translation, or lack thereof, could be of significant importance.

We will see if it legitimately sells, I suppose.....

For my money, I would rather have Clapton's Patek!

Skeptical · 11 October 2012, 10:51 PM

Hm. It does seem to be an oddly run auction, but Richard Dawkins is apparently familiar with its provenance, as he tried to buy it the last time around:

http://richarddawkins.net/news_artic...h#.UHa_1MWx8ms

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10 October 2012, 06:15 PM	#8
bayerische "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Andreas Location: Margaritaville Watch: Smurf Posts: 19,879	I'm not sure it's worth that much. Publicity stunt? __________________ Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

11 October 2012, 06:04 AM	#11
wantonebad 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: USA Watch: 126600, 116500LN Posts: 12,849	It's a significant piece of history and an important document. It can be argued that Einstein wasn't the most important physicist of the 20th century or that even some of his theories were flawed. What can't be argued is his status as scientific and cultural icon. He personified science for many and was the defacto "learned man" of the time. When he wrote that letter to Gutkind it was a kind of chastisement or lecture on what Einstein viewed as a bunch of voodoo and Gutkind's perpetuation of that voodoo. Religon and science have been warring for centuries even still they're at each others throats. Little common ground exists and this letter is the clear view of a man who felt stongly his side had the only logical answer and it was his responsibility to set Gutkind straight. __________________ "I'm kind of a big deal... on a fairly irrelevant social media site that falsely inflates my fragile ego"

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10 October 2012, 02:37 PM	#1
cruvon "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Australia Posts: 4,689	$3 million and going for Einsteins personal beliefs letter! Includes Free Pickup:)..had sold in 2008 for a little over $400k, so a $3 mill bid on the opening day itself looks very sus considering this letter has nothing to do with E=mc**2 or any of his famed scientific theories. But you never know what a bidder is thinking or could just be a fake bid inner job to promote ones ideology and/or the letters price! Plus why not wait till the last few minutes/seconds of the auction to bid this high if one is hell bent on winning it? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=190736802914 http://www.latimes.com/business/tech...,3985072.story __________________ Last thing I remember, I was Running outta sight I had to find the passage back,To the place I was before. ’Relax,’ said this Rolex place,We are programmed to receive. You can checkout any time you like, But you can never leave!

10 October 2012, 03:26 PM	#4
threemonkeys "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Real Name: Craig Location: Seattle-ish, USA Watch: GMTIIc, AK, LVc Posts: 7,022	Kind of funny that the seller's feedback is anything but stellar.

10 October 2012, 04:45 PM	#6
InTime Banned Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: BermudaAntarctica Posts: 892	lol i thought you meant free pick up truck. ha

10 October 2012, 05:36 PM	#7
Too Old 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Real Name: Brian Location: Bucks, UK Posts: 1,096	Paypal Preferred too!!!

10 October 2012, 10:20 PM	#9
Manofsteelpt "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Real Name: Mike Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 3,971	Why don't they bring it to Rick at Pawn Stars to sell, lol Notice the bidder has 0 feedbacks too.

11 October 2012, 06:26 AM	#12
Watchonisto Banned Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: Alex Location: European Union Watch: AP, ROLEX, PP, PAM Posts: 4,344

11 October 2012, 01:11 PM	#15
Skeptical "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Real Name: Matt Location: 'Toga Posts: 11	As a member of the "skeptical community" I have heard of this letter, and had saw an announcement a while ago that it would be going up for auction. I see no reason to doubt its authenticity.

11 October 2012, 03:05 PM	#16
TheVTCGuy Banned Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Paul Location: San Diego Watch: 126619LB Posts: 21,540	So... the seller's last deal was $20 cerial bowls? And now he's auctioning off a THREE MILLION DOLLAR ITEM?

11 October 2012, 10:51 PM	#19
Skeptical "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Real Name: Matt Location: 'Toga Posts: 11	Hm. It does seem to be an oddly run auction, but Richard Dawkins is apparently familiar with its provenance, as he tried to buy it the last time around: http://richarddawkins.net/news_artic...h#.UHa_1MWx8ms

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