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Old 6 March 2013, 06:16 AM   #1
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Position of your watch at night..

Hi all,

I think I remember seeing somewhere about how your rolex will loose/gain seconds depending on how u position it over night.. Is this right?

If so... Anyone know the positions?

Thanks
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Old 6 March 2013, 06:21 AM   #2
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I do believe this is the "official" Rolex instructions

And no, I won't make any smart comments about "nightime positions".
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Old 6 March 2013, 06:24 AM   #3
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I believe the information is in the booklet(s) that come with the watches.

Basically: crown up - losses slightly
dial up - gain slightly
crown down - gain more

Not all watches are effected like this though, and (apparently) it has greater effect on movements with a lower BPM. I should test my Speedmaster pro against my Rolexes and see if there's a difference...if I could be bothered! Haha!
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Old 6 March 2013, 06:24 AM   #4
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I do believe this is the "official" Rolex instructions

And no, I won't make any smart comments about "nightime positions".
Ah! I stand corrected :-)
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Old 6 March 2013, 06:41 AM   #5
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What about dial face down ???
I was under the impression that the orientation a watch is left in, is only relevent to non Microstella watches.
Am i right or wrong ??
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Old 6 March 2013, 06:58 AM   #6
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What about dial face down ???
I was under the impression that the orientation a watch is left in, is only relevent to non Microstella watches.
Am i right or wrong ??
I think you're right. I believe that poster is relevant to non high beat movements.
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Old 6 March 2013, 05:23 PM   #7
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My 14060 runs fastest vertically crown up.
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Old 6 March 2013, 05:39 PM   #8
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I was not aware of this and I keep my watch when I sleep
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Old 6 March 2013, 06:28 PM   #9
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What about dial face down ???
I was under the impression that the orientation a watch is left in, is only relevent to non Microstella watches.
Am i right or wrong ??
Well Rolex has been using the Microstella balance type wheel for many many decades all the present movements use the same system as did the 15 series and 3 series.But these timing positions were more effective on the slow beat movements 18000BPH, 19800BPH, the high beat 28800 BPH like the cal 3135 are not so much effected by resting positions, although its possible many could lose or gain a second or so .The two smaller Microstella screws make adjustments of one second for each turn, and the larger Microstella, two seconds for one turn, but rate adjustment on the balance wheel its around a max of 30-50 seconds either way.And you need a microstella special tool and a timing machine although its quite a easy job if not skilled best left to the professionals
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Old 6 March 2013, 10:05 PM   #10
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Well Rolex has been using the Microstella balance type wheel for many many decades all the present movements use the same system as did the 15 series and 3 series.But these timing positions were more effective on the slow beat movements 18000BPH, 19800BPH, the high beat 28800 BPH like the cal 3135 are not so much effected by resting positions, although its possible many could lose or gain a second or so .The two smaller Microstella screws make adjustments of one second for each turn, and the larger Microstella, two seconds for one turn, but rate adjustment on the balance wheel its around a max of 30-50 seconds either way.And you need a microstella special tool and a timing machine although its quite a easy job if not skilled best left to the professionals
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Wow, way over my pay grade!!
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Old 6 March 2013, 10:29 PM   #11
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Wow, way over my pay grade!!
Since Rikki spent the proper time regulating my Sub, it now doesn't vary more than .50 seconds in any position. Most positions are neutral.
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Old 6 March 2013, 10:44 PM   #12
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my new 116610 looses about a second/day while im wearing it - and gains about a second over night when i leave it in the dial up position. As a result, the watch has been virtually at +0 since i originally set it back in December.

Its luck of the draw as each watch is slightly different in its timekeeping behavior, i got lucky in this regard.


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Old 6 March 2013, 10:48 PM   #13
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Old 6 March 2013, 10:49 PM   #14
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Peter this dumb old flat foot sometimes gets a headache reading your posts. Your knowledge always mazes me, but I really like it when you just reply with good old common sense. Thanks for sharing all your info you have on our beloved watches.
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Old 6 March 2013, 11:00 PM   #15
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Old 6 March 2013, 11:34 PM   #16
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Old 6 March 2013, 11:42 PM   #17
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That's something new for me. Usually I put it crown up.
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Old 6 March 2013, 11:48 PM   #18
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Vertically with crown up on Sub. If I leave flat with crystal up, it gains 3 secs.
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Old 7 March 2013, 12:34 AM   #19
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Hey all since i just got my new subc do you guys think a watch winder is worth to have or use
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Old 7 March 2013, 12:37 AM   #20
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For years I would set my Rolex on the bracelet clasp, dial up. I found that setting it crown up, on its side, keeps the watch within COSC spec. It will be going to the Dallas RSC for a spa month soon. I will have to learn all over again the favored condition for maximum accuracy. At least this forum has given me the knowledge about nightime watch positions!
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Old 7 March 2013, 12:42 AM   #21
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Going to have to print that out and keep it next to the bed for reference.
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Old 7 March 2013, 01:09 AM   #23
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Maybe..... I have used one for years with great if not outstanding results in my service report after 15 years. Do a search on the topic. I think the reduced wear and tear on the crown is worth it alone.


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