GMT II "Fat Lady" bezel ???

[superken]

Hi I'm a newbie here and not sure if this question belongs in the vintage section, but I just picked up a 1984 GMT II 16760 "Fat Lady" (no date) and I know the bezel should be black & red, but mine was changed at some point to an all black bezel. I would like to find an original coke bezel that would/could have been on this watch in 1984 from the factory. Is there a serial number for that particular bezel or will any coke bezel do? I ask because I thought the font on the original bezel is different. Any answers or pictures of the difference would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

[pdoukas]

Font is different, but any coke will do.


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[Puffy]

you actually need a period correct FAT FONT insert, a modern service coke insert would be incorrect

fat font coke





can be bought over on vintage rolex forum for about $200 for a nice minty one

[pdoukas]

Puffy is correct, I misread. 8.3 to 8.4 million is correct range I believe.


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[Speed Metal Army]

No Date?

[superken]

Yes missing the word "date".

[Tools]

Since the 16760 introduced the black/red insert, all black/red inserts that are authentic Rolex will fit into the bezel of the 16760 GMT II.

Almost nobody will know or recognize a slight difference in the font on the insert, however, with a bit or searching it would be likely you could find one with the font you want..

You would probably spend 300 bucks looking for a "period correct" insert on the 'Net, while Rolex will sell and install a proper service insert for around 50 bucks..

[MATCH1969]

Mine says hello

[superken]

Master1969, is your bezel the factory original because if you look at the 4 on your bezel the inside blank space is almost touching at the top where as most of the bezels I see the top part of the 4 has a straight line connecting it.

[pdoukas]

Originally Posted by superken

Master1969, is your bezel the factory original because if you look at the 4 on your bezel the inside blank space is almost touching at the top where as most of the bezels I see the top part of the 4 has a straight line connecting it.

His is period correct. The font is slightly thicker and there is a small hook on the straight lines of the font. I used to have a nondate and gave up looking for a period correct insert that was flawless because I was impatient.


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[s1nn3d]

Originally Posted by pdoukas

His is period correct. The font is slightly thicker and there is a small hook on the straight lines of the font. I used to have a nondate and gave up looking for a period correct insert that was flawless because I was impatient.


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Here are three coke inserts with the rightmost (C) having the sans serif font.


Please correct me if I'm wrong but is the sans serif font = fat font? Was the fat font bezel also used in Fat Lady's with Oyster Perpetual Date print dial? How about on the later R-series 16760?

PS
Picture is not mine and is only used for reference.

[Alvaro]

Here is my original bezel for 16760


Enviado desde mi tam-tam

[pdoukas]

Dennis, yes, C is period correct for non date fat lady.

[jedly1]

i know my watchmaker had a couple of 'b' versions lying around last time i looked...let me know if you get stuck ..i can ask if he'll part with one.

[Puffy]

Originally Posted by MATCH1969

Mine says hello

Attachment 386600

yes here we go!!! FF how Rolex intended it

a Fat Lady does not deserve a service insert

if The Doors did a version 2 of LA Woman, it'd feature a Fat Font insert of Fat Lady

[s1nn3d]

Originally Posted by pdoukas

Dennis, yes, C is period correct for non date fat lady.

Let me get it straight...

Fat Font = Sans Serif = No 'date' dial

Regular Font = With 'date' dial

Is my equation correct?

Here's my late model fat lady singing...

[saskmh]

From my research I have found only two inserts for the 16760. The first having all serif fonts as Match posted. Notice the tails on all of the 2, 12, 20, and 22.

Originally Posted by MATCH1969

Attachment 386600

The second is also a serif font insert however it does not have a serif "tail" on the 2 where the 12, 20 and 22 do have tails as shown by Puffy

Originally Posted by Puffy

I have also heard of some reference to a particular detail in the 4 that is found in original fat lady inserts but I have not seen a particular photo of it.

I don't know what the (C) is that has been referred to in this thread. Can you folks explain?

thanks.