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Augustus · 29 October 2013, 01:58 PM

I cannot see any serial numbers between the lugs. In the dial, the word ROLEX is just below the 12 o'clock position under a symbol that looks like a crown.

My grandfather was presented this watch when he retired from Wetterau Incorporated. On the back it is engraved with his name, and then the following:

In appreciation of 40 years of loyal service.

Wetterau Incorporated

I'm guessing he retired about 1986 because he was discharged from the Army in 1945.

Note: the watch face does not have numerals, just lines where normally there would be numbers.

Help please?

Thanks

Tools · 29 October 2013, 03:32 PM

Sorry, nobody can help you with such a sketchy description.

Why do you think that your grandpa would have been given a fake watch for his retirement.. ??

kieselguhr · 29 October 2013, 03:33 PM

A picture is worth a thousand words.

A.Sharp · 29 October 2013, 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Augustus

I cannot see any serial numbers between the lugs. In the dial, the word ROLEX is just below the 12 o'clock position under a symbol that looks like a crown.

My grandfather was presented this watch when he retired from Wetterau Incorporated. On the back it is engraved with his name, and then the following:

In appreciation of 40 years of loyal service.

Wetterau Incorporated

I'm guessing he retired about 1986 because he was discharged from the Army in 1945.

Note: the watch face does not have numerals, just lines where normally there would be numbers.

Help please?

Thanks

Yes ROLEX below a crown is pretty standard. Yes 'lines' or stick are a type of dial on real rolexs.

You would only see this serial on older models if you were to take the band off.

Sounds like you need someone else to help you judge it's authenticity, bring it to an authorized dealer, or better yet POST SOME PICS! theyll tell ya in no time.

padi56 · 29 October 2013, 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tools

Sorry, nobody can help you with such a sketchy description.

Why do you think that your grandpa would have been given a fake watch for his retirement.. ??

Have agree and just cannot see any company giving a fake watch for any-ones retirement period.

Howe · 29 October 2013, 05:32 PM

I think its legit real i mean they do give out rolex in the military service any pics?

MonBK · 29 October 2013, 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Howe

I think its legit real i mean they do give out rolex in the military service any pics?

What does the military have to do with Wetterau?

Mickyfin · 29 October 2013, 06:39 PM

Obviously we need a good quality, clear photo of the dial to help you authenticate your Pa's watch my friend.

Augustus · 30 October 2013, 01:09 AM

Thank you all very much. I guess the only thing that set off alarms in my head that it was a fake is, the fact that there isn't a serial number between the lugs at the twelve o'clock location.

Also it does not have a month/day on the face. It's just a plain face. it looks just like this one,

only no date/month and mine is a "gold" color.

MonBK · 30 October 2013, 01:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Augustus

Thank you all very much. I guess the only thing that set off alarms in my head that it was a fake is, the fact that there isn't a serial number between the lugs at the twelve o'clock location.

Which of course is not a good sign.

Did you take the bracelet off or just tried to "peak" with it still on?

Cc1966 · 30 October 2013, 01:18 AM

Posts some pics OP and we can do a better job helping you out.

Trouble15 · 30 October 2013, 01:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cc1966

Posts some pics OP and we can do a better job helping you out.

SLS · 30 October 2013, 01:25 AM

The old style end links will cause wear in the area where the serial number & model number is located....I have seen this on several vintage watches. Use a loupe or magnifying glass and see if you can detect anything. I have also rubbed a pencil across the area where the numbers are to help try to identify worn numbers.
Scott

MonBK · 30 October 2013, 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MonBK

Which of course is not a good sign.

Did you take the bracelet off or just tried to "peak" with it still on?

I fail to understand why people ask questions and when getting responses just sit and watch the thread without replying?

hx_ONG · 30 October 2013, 01:34 AM

pics please?

SaddleSC · 30 October 2013, 01:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Augustus

Thank you all very much. I guess the only thing that set off alarms in my head that it was a fake is, the fact that there isn't a serial number between the lugs at the twelve o'clock location.

Also it does not have a month/day on the face. It's just a plain face. it looks just like this one,

only no date/month and mine is a "gold" color.

Do you honestly think that posting a stock photo directly from the Rolex web site (of a watch that sounds completely different than yours) will help us determine if the watch that you have is real or fake? Post a picture of the actual watch…that is the only way we will be able to help you.

padi56 · 30 October 2013, 01:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Augustus

Thank you all very much. I guess the only thing that set off alarms in my head that it was a fake is, the fact that there isn't a serial number between the lugs at the twelve o'clock location.

Also it does not have a month/day on the face. It's just a plain face. it looks just like this one,

only no date/month and mine is a "gold" color.

Without posting a picture of your grandfathers watch know one can help you any further end of story.

Alpino · 30 October 2013, 01:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Augustus

My grandfather was presented this watch when he retired from Wetterau Incorporated. On the back it is engraved with his name, and then the following:

In appreciation of 40 years of loyal service.

Wetterau Incorporated

I'm guessing he retired about 1986 because he was discharged from the Army in 1945.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MonBK

What does the military have to do with Wetterau?

English is not my natural language, but it seems that OP wanted to evaluate when his Grandfather retired from Wettereau. As he was decharged from army in 1945, and Watch was given to him 40 years after that, OP thinks it was in 1986 ...

.

Silverfever · 30 October 2013, 01:45 AM

Imho prob a trololololol.

MonBK · 30 October 2013, 01:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Howe

I think its legit real i mean they do give out rolex in the military service any pics?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alpino

English is not my natural language, but it seems that OP wanted to evaluate when his Grandfather retired from Wettereau. As he was decharged from army in 1945, and Watch was given to him 40 years after that, OP thinks it was in 1986 ...

.

I understand exactly what the OP is asking but I was replying to this:

Originally Posted by Howe

I think its legit real i mean they do give out rolex in the military service any pics?

Augustus · 30 October 2013, 01:53 AM

The bracelet was broken when he passed away. He wore it every day until he died in 1990. It has been sitting in my desk drawer ever since. And yes, he retired from Wetterau right around 1986.

The Army reference was to correlate the time he was discharged, upon which he became employed with Wetterau and worked there for 40 years as a Printer/Pressman.

As for not posting photos of the watch, I am 60 years old and just now learning to find my way around the internet. I wish I were a 20 year old, because then I would know how to take a picture and put it on here. Unfortunately I don't know how. Sorry.

The photo I posted from a website is exactly like my grandpa's except it is not silver, it is a gold'ish color. My apologies for not being computer savvy. Perhaps I should look elsewhere or toss it back into the drawer and forget about it.

Thanks to all who tried to help.

Jake B · 30 October 2013, 01:54 AM

Maybe grandpa faked ever having the job and had the fake Rolex engraved as part of the ruse? OP, do you have a pic of grandpa at work?

floater156 · 30 October 2013, 02:16 AM

I'd treasure any watch that my grandfather wore, regardless of the name on the dial.

mjclark32 · 30 October 2013, 02:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jake B

Maybe grandpa faked ever having the job and had the fake Rolex engraved as part of the ruse? OP, do you have a pic of grandpa at work?

Augustus · 30 October 2013, 02:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jake B

Maybe grandpa faked ever having the job and had the fake Rolex engraved as part of the ruse? OP, do you have a pic of grandpa at work?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jake B

Maybe grandpa faked ever having the job and had the fake Rolex engraved as part of the ruse? OP, do you have a pic of grandpa at work?

That's disgusting. My grandfather fought in World War II, in Europe. He survived the landings on D-Day. From there he fought all the way to the The Battle for the Hurtgen Forest, where he was severely wounded. He returned home after the war, and worked at Wetterau until he retired.

I came here expecting more professionalism at this website. Instead, I get snide remarks.

If this is the attitude of the typical Rolex owner, then count me out. Sorry I wasted your precious Rolex time!

Again, thanks to those who tried to help.

Cc1966 · 30 October 2013, 02:22 AM

Many wanted pics to help....if you are unable to post, then bring it to a Rolex dealer and ask for a service estimate. If it's real you will find out and get a specific price to get it up to speed. Good luck.

mjclark32 · 30 October 2013, 02:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Augustus

The photo I posted from a website is exactly like my grandpa's except it is not silver, it is a gold'ish color. My apologies for not being computer savvy. Perhaps I should look elsewhere or toss it back into the drawer and forget about it.

Thanks to all who tried to help.

The photo you posted looks like a Datejust II, only came out a couple of years ago. It's 41mm. The original Datejust is 36mm.
Do you have a smartphone with internet and a camera?
Best of luck

jjnd08 · 30 October 2013, 02:24 AM

Are there any Authorized Rolex Dealers in your area? You can find these on the Rolex website.

One trip in there, and they can tell you if it's real or not.

SaddleSC · 30 October 2013, 02:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Augustus

The photo I posted from a website is exactly like my grandpa's except it is not silver, it is a gold'ish color. My apologies for not being computer savvy. Perhaps I should look elsewhere or toss it back into the drawer and forget about it.

Allow me to clarify something for you…the photo you posted is of a 41mm DateJust II. The DJII was just released a couple years ago and therefore cannot be representative of the watch you are trying to get help with.

Bottom line…without pictures of the actual watch…nobody here can help you.

QueueCumber · 30 October 2013, 02:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jake B

Maybe grandpa faked ever having the job and had the fake Rolex engraved as part of the ruse? OP, do you have a pic of grandpa at work?

29 October 2013, 01:58 PM	#1
Augustus Banned Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Colorado Watch: My grandpa's Rolex Posts: 16	I think my grandpa's Rolex is a fake. I cannot see any serial numbers between the lugs. In the dial, the word ROLEX is just below the 12 o'clock position under a symbol that looks like a crown. My grandfather was presented this watch when he retired from Wetterau Incorporated. On the back it is engraved with his name, and then the following: In appreciation of 40 years of loyal service. Wetterau Incorporated I'm guessing he retired about 1986 because he was discharged from the Army in 1945. Note: the watch face does not have numerals, just lines where normally there would be numbers. Help please? Thanks

29 October 2013, 03:32 PM	#2
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,514	Sorry, nobody can help you with such a sketchy description. Why do you think that your grandpa would have been given a fake watch for his retirement.. ?? __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

30 October 2013, 01:18 AM	#11
Cc1966 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Real Name: Christopher Location: Georgia, USA Watch: ing the Sea... Posts: 6,713	Posts some pics OP and we can do a better job helping you out. __________________ "I wish to have no Connection with any Ship that does not Sail fast for I intend to go in harm's way." Captain John Paul Jones, 16 November 1778 "*Curmudgeons* " Favorites: 1665 SD, Sub Date, DSSD, Exp II, Sub LV, GMTIIc

30 October 2013, 01:25 AM	#13
SLS "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Real Name: Scott Location: GMT -7 Watch: GMT's & Sub's Posts: 10,401	The old style end links will cause wear in the area where the serial number & model number is located....I have seen this on several vintage watches. Use a loupe or magnifying glass and see if you can detect anything. I have also rubbed a pencil across the area where the numbers are to help try to identify worn numbers. Scott __________________ "The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of lower price is forgotten." -Benjamin Franklin Member No. 922

30 October 2013, 01:34 AM	#15
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29 October 2013, 03:33 PM	#3
kieselguhr "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2013 Real Name: Nick Location: Las Vegas Watch: 1601 Posts: 10,623	A picture is worth a thousand words.

29 October 2013, 05:32 PM	#6
Howe "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Sydney, Australia Watch: Submariner blue Posts: 138	I think its legit real i mean they do give out rolex in the military service any pics?

29 October 2013, 06:39 PM	#8
Mickyfin "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Michael Location: Suomi Watch: Planet Ocean Posts: 334	Obviously we need a good quality, clear photo of the dial to help you authenticate your Pa's watch my friend.

30 October 2013, 01:09 AM	#9
Augustus Banned Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Colorado Watch: My grandpa's Rolex Posts: 16	Thank you all very much. I guess the only thing that set off alarms in my head that it was a fake is, the fact that there isn't a serial number between the lugs at the twelve o'clock location. Also it does not have a month/day on the face. It's just a plain face. it looks just like this one, only no date/month and mine is a "gold" color.

30 October 2013, 01:45 AM	#19
Silverfever "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Canada Posts: 321	Imho prob a trololololol.

30 October 2013, 01:53 AM	#21
Augustus Banned Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Colorado Watch: My grandpa's Rolex Posts: 16	The bracelet was broken when he passed away. He wore it every day until he died in 1990. It has been sitting in my desk drawer ever since. And yes, he retired from Wetterau right around 1986. The Army reference was to correlate the time he was discharged, upon which he became employed with Wetterau and worked there for 40 years as a Printer/Pressman. As for not posting photos of the watch, I am 60 years old and just now learning to find my way around the internet. I wish I were a 20 year old, because then I would know how to take a picture and put it on here. Unfortunately I don't know how. Sorry. The photo I posted from a website is exactly like my grandpa's except it is not silver, it is a gold'ish color. My apologies for not being computer savvy. Perhaps I should look elsewhere or toss it back into the drawer and forget about it. Thanks to all who tried to help.

30 October 2013, 01:54 AM	#22
Jake B "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Hong Kong Watch: Gold Sub 116618LN Posts: 2,820	Maybe grandpa faked ever having the job and had the fake Rolex engraved as part of the ruse? OP, do you have a pic of grandpa at work? __________________ Things are more like they are now than they ever were before.

30 October 2013, 02:16 AM	#23
floater156 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Real Name: Chris Location: Wisconsin Watch: Rolex Posts: 2,984	I'd treasure any watch that my grandfather wore, regardless of the name on the dial. __________________ Lead by example through production.

30 October 2013, 02:22 AM	#26
Cc1966 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Real Name: Christopher Location: Georgia, USA Watch: ing the Sea... Posts: 6,713	Many wanted pics to help....if you are unable to post, then bring it to a Rolex dealer and ask for a service estimate. If it's real you will find out and get a specific price to get it up to speed. Good luck. __________________ "I wish to have no Connection with any Ship that does not Sail fast for I intend to go in harm's way." Captain John Paul Jones, 16 November 1778 "*Curmudgeons* " Favorites: 1665 SD, Sub Date, DSSD, Exp II, Sub LV, GMTIIc

30 October 2013, 02:24 AM	#28
jjnd08 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: United States Posts: 8,615	Are there any Authorized Rolex Dealers in your area? You can find these on the Rolex website. One trip in there, and they can tell you if it's real or not.

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