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Old 27 December 2013, 06:07 PM   #1
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Difference in dial for the Jumbo H and I series?

Is it confirmed by AP that the dial on the H series is light blue and the I is darker blue?
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Old 27 December 2013, 07:52 PM   #2
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Not sure if it's been confirmed by AP or not, but it sure looks like it from pics in other threads on this topic.
The 40th is still on my hit list!
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Old 28 December 2013, 01:43 AM   #3
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That is my understanding. I have not seen an H & I together, but I would call the Boutique in Singapore and see what they say.
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Old 28 December 2013, 02:32 AM   #4
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I know there's always a slight variation in hue between dial production runs but I hadn't heard that there was an official color change.
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Old 28 December 2013, 10:42 PM   #5
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I understand that AP has made some minor improvements to the dial, particularly the AP logo at 6 o'clock to enhance the performance of the watch when the hour hand passes above it. Also understand that there were some production issues in between which resulted in subtle changes in the dial appearance between the earlier batch and recent batch of jumbos.

See illustrations below:

A H-series shot in Feb 2013


My I-series shot in Dec 2013


Some differences observed:
1. I-series has a denser "tapisserie" pattern on the dial.
2. I-series uses a different font for "SWISS MADE", which looks nicer IMO.
3. I-series has a wider AP logo, with a larger spacing between the A & P. I like the thinner AP logo on the H-series better.
4. There's a slight difference in the hue of the blue dials. I prefer the I-series one.

Whichever version it is, the jumbo is still a winner!

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Old 30 December 2013, 05:04 AM   #6
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I understand that AP has made some minor improvements to the dial, particularly the AP logo at 6 o'clock to enhance the performance of the watch when the hour hand passes above it. Also understand that there were some production issues in between which resulted in subtle changes in the dial appearance between the earlier batch and recent batch of jumbos.

See illustrations below:

A H-series shot in Feb 2013


My I-series shot in Dec 2013


Some differences observed:
1. I-series has a denser "tapisserie" pattern on the dial.
2. I-series uses a different font for "SWISS MADE", which looks nicer IMO.
3. I-series has a wider AP logo, with a larger spacing between the A & P. I like the thinner AP logo on the H-series better.
4. There's a slight difference in the hue of the blue dials. I prefer the I-series one.

Whichever version it is, the jumbo is still a winner!

Wayne
I totally agree with you in all points. The blue in the I series look more metallic and shiny, love it. the only bad points is they changed the AP logo to a bigger one. Either way a jumbo is a winner
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Old 30 December 2013, 05:17 AM   #7
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yes i heard and read about that on another forum…….. i really like the new blue color on I series. it makes the Jumbo looks sexier
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Old 30 December 2013, 05:22 AM   #8
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Prefer the h series.
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Old 30 December 2013, 06:57 AM   #9
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Prefer the h series.
x2... don't think it should get any darker than the H series. The lighter the blue shines in my H series, the better. Less character when it looks blacker...
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Old 30 December 2013, 07:32 AM   #10
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Thanks orangedial for detailed explanation...
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Old 30 December 2013, 08:00 AM   #11
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I prefer the matter color of the H serial
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Old 30 December 2013, 06:20 PM   #12
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I have them both in my collection.

I bought H series and using it for almost 1 year. Than I bought also I series while ago.. It is still with the stickers. According to the Turkish distrubutor, AP says that that dark blue dial was produced only a small lot and light blue one will be the dial for the future production. I put some pictures for comparision..

In case it is true, what you guys are thinking ? That dark blue dial becomes a kind of "limited edition ??
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Old 30 December 2013, 06:39 PM   #13
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I can barely tell the difference. Must be color blind I think both are equally enticing and nice.
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Old 31 December 2013, 02:06 AM   #14
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I bought H series and using it for almost 1 year. Than I bought also I series while ago.. It is still with the stickers. According to the Turkish distrubutor, AP says that that dark blue dial was produced only a small lot and light blue one will be the dial for the future production. I put some pictures for comparision..

In case it is true, what you guys are thinking ? That dark blue dial becomes a kind of "limited edition ??
Maybe the biggest difference is that one looks like it's keeping good time while the other is way off...
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Old 31 December 2013, 02:18 AM   #15
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H series from June 2012
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Old 1 January 2014, 12:37 AM   #16
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I bought H series and using it for almost 1 year. Than I bought also I series while ago.. It is still with the stickers. According to the Turkish distrubutor, AP says that that dark blue dial was produced only a small lot and light blue one will be the dial for the future production. I put some pictures for comparision..

In case it is true, what you guys are thinking ? That dark blue dial becomes a kind of "limited edition ??
whatever way it goes you are in win win situation having both
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Good to know. Then I like H series better.
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Old 1 January 2014, 11:55 PM   #18
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Which one I should keep ?

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whatever way it goes you are in win win situation having both
I am using the H series and the other one is in my safebox. I am not in a hurry but I am really wondering with which shade the production will continue.
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Old 2 January 2014, 04:39 AM   #19
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H series from June 2012
Where is the second hand?
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Old 2 January 2014, 06:40 AM   #20
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Where is the second hand?
It didn't come with one! 15202 does not have a seconds hand like the 15400 or 15300. No quick set date or screw down crown either.
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Old 2 January 2014, 07:26 AM   #21
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From my research, the dial variation isn't categorized by the series letter, rather production date.
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Old 4 January 2014, 10:55 AM   #22
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From my research, the dial variation isn't categorized by the series letter, rather production date.
I can confirm that, I just bought a brand new H series from DavidSW and it has the darker hue and updated typeface but the AP logo is the narrow one.
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Old 6 January 2014, 08:16 PM   #23
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I had the chance to see up close and personal the H-series and I-series of the Jumbo at different times. Somehow, I have the impression that the I-series is better finished, ie more shiny, more bright. Not by a wide margin, but noticeable. Granted I do not have the chance to compare them side by side. I wonder if anyone has got this impression?
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I had the chance to see up close and personal the H-series and I-series of the Jumbo at different times. Somehow, I have the impression that the I-series is better finished, ie more shiny, more bright. Not by a wide margin, but noticeable. Granted I do not have the chance to compare them side by side. I wonder if anyone has got this impression?
Did the I series seem darker / blacker / less-blue?
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Old 7 January 2014, 10:18 AM   #25
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Did the I series seem darker / blacker / less-blue?
I am actually referring to the case and bracelet finishing and polishing
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Old 7 January 2014, 08:57 PM   #26
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I really like both actually, not fussy.
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Old 18 March 2014, 02:36 AM   #27
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A H-series shot in Feb 2013


My I-series shot in Dec 2013


Some differences observed:
1. I-series has a denser "tapisserie" pattern on the dial....
Wayne

As Waynes pics clearly show,

You can see a difference in the dials, the tapisserie of some, 40th anniv Jumbo's, will have 8 vs 9 ~blocks, counting right from the center of the dial to the inside edge of the date window. Or moving left from the center to the 9 oclock marker 7 vs 8 blocks.

In essence it seems the more recent production have increased the number, density, of blocks on the dial. More in line with the earlier Jumbos finer dials.

Just to add, although i have the denser dial on my watch, it is accompanied by the AP of the earlier example in the pics, showing less space between the letters...it appears each component may be a bit random?

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Old 18 March 2014, 03:09 AM   #28
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Its really interesting to see these differences between dials.

My one is an I series but seems to have the dial and AP logo from the H series but the Swiss Made font from the I.

Seems pretty random with which combination you end up with.

All stunning watches whichever way they turn out.
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Old 18 March 2014, 03:17 AM   #29
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Here are two shots of my I series. I can tell you this dial changes colors drastically and everything depends on lighting and angle of shot. I have seen many photos and if there is a color difference I certainly can't tell. What I can say is I am clearly glad I have the latest series and to be a Jumbo owner in general!

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Old 18 March 2014, 03:19 AM   #30
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Here is my H series. Lighting is everything.
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