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Rob_b · 27 February 2008, 12:08 PM

Even if some of this watch was Franken, would you buy it?

I personally wouldn't touch it until he would meet an verify that it is genuine. To be honest I think there are to many holes in this case for sale. Won't meet face to face

His only guarentee that it is genuine, is his word!

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ROLEX-DAYTONA...QQcmdZViewItem

Rob

mdx77 · 27 February 2008, 12:10 PM

Well, this was his last listing:

Markg · 27 February 2008, 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdx77

Well, this was his last listing:

hey, thats MY bridge!!

jac67 · 28 February 2008, 01:14 PM

I have exchanged a few emails with him, and he won't give me a cell number etc. Just discuss via email.

I told him my concerns with that watch as well as the fact that even from those pics, the dial has a number of issues, not to mention the bezel. However, the bezels on these were often changed by the AD's of the day to suit customers requests (ahh.....the good ol' days).

He advised me that he would end the auction as he has sold it to a local collector for $15,000. It would be taken off ebay soon.

Well, $15k for a $30k+ watch................hmmmmm

Anyway, I'm sure all will turn out fine in the end!

John.

Defiancekofb · 28 February 2008, 03:31 PM

This is obviously a scam, I mean if the watch was genuine he could probably go to any AD in the world and get cash in hand for this rare piece, instead of dealing with scambay, paypal, and more BS. The seller could have copied those photos from anywhere, I personally would only purchase a high value watch on ebay, if I could complete the deal face to face.

Alcan · 27 February 2008, 12:22 PM

He bought an Alpha chrono on Jan 24 and resold it on Feb 19.

No history of high end watch sales or purchases, a wheeler dealer in low end stuff.

juneja · 27 February 2008, 12:44 PM

The fact that he outright denies personal pick-up is a deal-breaker, I mean before even looking at the item or his history.
Also sellers that harp on about scammer buyers ring alarm bells for me.

Don't know enough about the watch to comment.

'100% original or 200% refund' could be reassuring I suppose, to some people, but how would one enforce anything like that?

No. No-no-no-no-no.

Tools · 27 February 2008, 01:01 PM

It's also not a Paul Newman dial..

Just having opposite colored subdials does not a Newman make..

They need to also have the correct markings, and that one does not..

Andad · 28 February 2008, 05:32 PM

Run Away...Run Away...

Rob_b · 28 February 2008, 07:09 PM

Here's a closer look. Boy have I learn't a lot about vintage DAYTONA's.

The first is off ebay.

The second off TZ.

27 February 2008, 12:08 PM	#1
Rob_b "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Real Name: Rob Location: Brisbane AUS Watch: SeaDweller Posts: 850	Vintage Daytona? Even if some of this watch was Franken, would you buy it? I personally wouldn't touch it until he would meet an verify that it is genuine. To be honest I think there are to many holes in this case for sale. Won't meet face to face His only guarentee that it is genuine, is his word! http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ROLEX-DAYTONA...QQcmdZViewItem Rob __________________ Travelling Through Time at The Speed of Life.

27 February 2008, 12:10 PM	#2
mdx77 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Kurt Location: Philly Burbs!! Posts: 3,296	Well, this was his last listing: __________________ “This is your last chance. After this, there is no turning back. You take the BLUE pill - the story ends; you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the RED pill - you stay in Wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes.” Rolex Submariner 116610LV Hulk \| Rolex GMT 16710 Pepsi \| Omega Speedmaster “Speedy Tuesday” \| Tudor Black Bay 79220R “ETA Rose” \| Tudor Pelagos Blue Dial \| Rolex Submariner Yellow Gold 116618LB \| Rolex Milgauss “Z-Blue” 116400GV

27 February 2008, 12:22 PM	#6
Alcan 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Al Location: Way Up North Watch: your P's & Q's Posts: 10,473	He bought an Alpha chrono on Jan 24 and resold it on Feb 19. No history of high end watch sales or purchases, a wheeler dealer in low end stuff. __________________ Member #1,315 I don't want to get technical, but according to chemistry alcohol IS a solution!

27 February 2008, 01:01 PM	#8
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,514	It's also not a Paul Newman dial.. Just having opposite colored subdials does not a Newman make.. They need to also have the correct markings, and that one does not.. __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

28 February 2008, 05:32 PM	#9
Andad 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Eddie Location: Australia Watch: A few. Posts: 37,526	Run Away...Run Away... __________________ E

28 February 2008, 01:14 PM	#4
jac67 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: John Location: Australia Watch: Me Posts: 1,950	I have exchanged a few emails with him, and he won't give me a cell number etc. Just discuss via email. I told him my concerns with that watch as well as the fact that even from those pics, the dial has a number of issues, not to mention the bezel. However, the bezels on these were often changed by the AD's of the day to suit customers requests (ahh.....the good ol' days). He advised me that he would end the auction as he has sold it to a local collector for $15,000. It would be taken off ebay soon. Well, $15k for a $30k+ watch................hmmmmm Anyway, I'm sure all will turn out fine in the end! John.

28 February 2008, 03:31 PM	#5
Defiancekofb "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: US Posts: 1,999	This is obviously a scam, I mean if the watch was genuine he could probably go to any AD in the world and get cash in hand for this rare piece, instead of dealing with scambay, paypal, and more BS. The seller could have copied those photos from anywhere, I personally would only purchase a high value watch on ebay, if I could complete the deal face to face.

27 February 2008, 12:44 PM	#7
juneja "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: juneja Location: London UK Watch: 6542 Posts: 217	The fact that he outright denies personal pick-up is a deal-breaker, I mean before even looking at the item or his history. Also sellers that harp on about scammer buyers ring alarm bells for me. Don't know enough about the watch to comment. '100% original or 200% refund' could be reassuring I suppose, to some people, but how would one enforce anything like that? No. No-no-no-no-no.

28 February 2008, 07:09 PM	#10
Rob_b "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Real Name: Rob Location: Brisbane AUS Watch: SeaDweller Posts: 850	Here's a closer look. Boy have I learn't a lot about vintage DAYTONA's. The first is off ebay. The second off TZ. __________________ Travelling Through Time at The Speed of Life.

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