ROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEX
3 July 2014, 10:02 AM | #1 |
2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: USA
Watch: 126600, 116500LN
Posts: 12,849
|
Dodge Hellcat... HP CRAZY!!
https://autos.yahoo.com/blogs/motora...203805750.html
With 707 horsepower, Dodge Challenger Hellcat out-roars all muscle cars . By Steve Siler July 1, 2014 4:38 PM It’s been a huge car industry secret for most of 2014: how much power will the new supercharged 6.2-liter “Hellcat” V-8 in the 2015 Challenger SRT produce? Today, Dodge reveled the answer: 707 hp. That’s, um, a lot. The massive engine also makes some serious torque, to the tune of 650 lb-ft, which is enough to turn its massive rear tires into pools of molten rubber faster than you can say “bad kitty!” According to Dodge, this makes the Challenger Hellcat the most powerful Challenger ever, Dodge's most powerful V-8 ever, and the most powerful muscle car ever. (So you don’t have to look it up, Ford’s previous-generation lighter, smaller Mustang GT500 currently boasts a huge 662 hp and 631 lb-ft of torque, while the Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 makes a comparatively wimpy 580 hp and 580 lb-ft of torque. Yep, they’ve been served.) Gotta make sure you have the right key, however. The Hellcat engine comes standard with two key fobs, red and black. You’ll want the red one, as it is the only one that unlocks the full 707 hp and torque; the black key fob limits the engine’s output to “just” 500 hp. The mean kitty’s partner in crime is a new eight-speed automatic transmission with manual shift control, of course. A full raft of hero-making track apps also comes as part of the SRT Hellcat package. The engine debuts later this year in the 2015 Challenger, which dons mildly refreshed headlamp, grille, and taillamp designs and as well as an all-new interior, which Dodge says is inspired by the classic 1971 Challenger. Watch this space for our first drive of the Hellcat and the rest of the refreshed Challenger litter in coming weeks.
__________________
"I'm kind of a big deal... on a fairly irrelevant social media site that falsely inflates my fragile ego" |
3 July 2014, 10:31 AM | #2 |
Banned
Join Date: Feb 2013
Real Name: Bill
Location: Plymouth Meeting
Watch: 116520
Posts: 3,209
|
That's insane. I don't even want to know what that must cost. It's like we're back in the muscle car horsepower race all over again.
|
3 July 2014, 10:40 AM | #3 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Jan 2014
Real Name: Jim
Location: KY
Watch: My Six
Posts: 139
|
Good to see Mopar re-living the old days of high performance and competition.
|
3 July 2014, 10:54 AM | #4 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Jan 2011
Real Name: gus
Location: East Coast
Watch: APK & sometimes Y
Posts: 26,601
|
cool:)
the challenger is my favorite of the reissues by far, its nice to see them putting such effort into them
__________________
|
3 July 2014, 11:44 AM | #5 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Midwest
Posts: 1,252
|
awesome. as far as price im going to take an accurate guess and say $75k even though it has the HP they are gunning for the gt500, camaro z51/z28 crowd. vipers are $100k and that is still their "top" car.
|
3 July 2014, 11:45 AM | #6 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: USA
Watch: Not enough ;-)
Posts: 21,232
|
Whoooo Whaaaaaa !
Mopar HAGOne |
3 July 2014, 01:48 PM | #7 |
2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: USA
Watch: addiction issues
Posts: 37,355
|
That is just insane
That car needs a lot of things but 707 hp is not one of them. It's like a cigarette boat for land lol |
3 July 2014, 10:10 PM | #8 | |
2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: USA
Watch: 126600, 116500LN
Posts: 12,849
|
Quote:
This is a ZL1 competitor for sure.
__________________
"I'm kind of a big deal... on a fairly irrelevant social media site that falsely inflates my fragile ego" |
|
3 July 2014, 10:37 PM | #9 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Denver
Watch: 16610
Posts: 77
|
7:12 for the last gen Viper ACR. But the Challenger is far heavier and less track capable than the Viper. Would be interesting to see how this behemoth (Hellcat) could do there.
__________________
|
3 July 2014, 10:52 PM | #10 |
2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member
Join Date: Aug 2007
Real Name: dan
Location: Pennsylvania
Watch: keystone pocket
Posts: 5,917
|
madness I say!
|
3 July 2014, 10:57 PM | #11 |
2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member
Join Date: Aug 2012
Real Name: Mike
Location: New York
Watch: Rolex
Posts: 22,585
|
|
3 July 2014, 11:39 PM | #12 |
2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: USA
Watch: 126600, 116500LN
Posts: 12,849
|
I said "many" not none, plus the Viper doesn't count
__________________
"I'm kind of a big deal... on a fairly irrelevant social media site that falsely inflates my fragile ego" |
4 July 2014, 12:12 AM | #13 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Aug 2013
Real Name: Wes
Location: Holosuite
Posts: 6,345
|
Unnecessarily loud? Check.
Stupid amount of power? Check. Badass? Check. Welcome back, American muscle. |
4 July 2014, 12:13 AM | #14 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: USA
Watch: Not enough ;-)
Posts: 21,232
|
That what we need
Missing it for years : American Muscle Cars just like in the good old days HAGOne |
4 July 2014, 02:24 AM | #15 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Long Island NY US
Watch: 1675 14060M 16622
Posts: 507
|
Annual insurance premium on it is going to be one heckuva bill!
__________________
Rolex, Omega, Panerai, Chopard, Blancpain, Breitling, Seiko, Zenith, IWC, Tag Heuer, Bvlgari, Cartier, Movado, Tissot, Casio and Sinn, a few of my favorite things |
4 July 2014, 02:34 AM | #16 |
2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Paris, France
Posts: 35,303
|
|
4 July 2014, 02:56 AM | #17 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Midwest
Watch: 116900
Posts: 1,066
|
Honestly, as long as you have a decent driving record, I doubt it. A lot of the cost is based on statistics. Since these will likely be higher priced and not driven regularly, it may be surprisingly low. In my 20's I could insure a corvette cheaper than I could a trans am. I can insure a viper for an amount very similar to my Taurus. Even exotics are not as bad as one would think, though still not cheap.
Dodge needs to put that thing on a diet. They wouldn't need 700hp if it didn't weigh as much as a big boat. |
4 July 2014, 03:31 AM | #18 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Apr 2008
Real Name: Tom
Location: In a race car!
Watch: ME RACE PORSCHES
Posts: 24,123
|
Good!! HORSEPOWER THERE IS NO SUBSTITUTE !!
|
4 July 2014, 03:43 AM | #19 |
2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: USA
Watch: 126600, 116500LN
Posts: 12,849
|
Said another way "no replacement for displacement" except for turbos and superchargers that is...
__________________
"I'm kind of a big deal... on a fairly irrelevant social media site that falsely inflates my fragile ego" |
4 July 2014, 03:57 AM | #20 | |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Long Island NY US
Watch: 1675 14060M 16622
Posts: 507
|
I pay $2K per annum for a 2006 GTO which is 400/400. Full comprehensive coverage, max liability limits, no accidents and no tickets, 20K mis driven a year for business and pleasure. 50+ year old driver.
Quote:
__________________
Rolex, Omega, Panerai, Chopard, Blancpain, Breitling, Seiko, Zenith, IWC, Tag Heuer, Bvlgari, Cartier, Movado, Tissot, Casio and Sinn, a few of my favorite things |
|
4 July 2014, 04:08 AM | #21 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: May 2013
Location: California
Posts: 536
|
Hellcat is going to be pretty beastly, but that ZL1 video you posted aint stock.
|
4 July 2014, 04:22 AM | #22 |
2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: USA
Watch: 126600, 116500LN
Posts: 12,849
|
None of the ZL1's that are being driven are stock. Sure there are stock versions that have been squirreled away by collectors but the platform is meant to be a canvas for drag-racing sick-o artists.
__________________
"I'm kind of a big deal... on a fairly irrelevant social media site that falsely inflates my fragile ego" |
4 July 2014, 05:57 AM | #23 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: May 2012
Real Name: Matt
Location: Northern VA
Watch: 126711, 126610
Posts: 1,803
|
Car insurance in the US is cheap. Try living in Germany where you are forced to have 7.5MIL EUR in liability coverage. My insurance nearly tripled from what I paid in the states (DC region). Never had a wreck; no tickets in at least 25 years.
|
4 July 2014, 06:14 AM | #24 |
2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member
Join Date: Aug 2012
Real Name: Lee
Location: 42.48.45N70.48.48
Watch: Too many to list!
Posts: 33,697
|
FWIW, I had a Ford Mustang Cobra SVT; it was a great car but mainly excelled at getting into traffic. Not much use for the extra ponies it had in day to day life. Mine was yellow; it felt like driving a cartoon.
|
4 July 2014, 06:22 AM | #25 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Denver
Watch: 16610
Posts: 77
|
For cars like this, agreed value collector car insurance is the way to go. I insure a Viper and a Corvette for less annually than I pay every 6 months for my 2 "drivers".
__________________
|
4 July 2014, 09:27 AM | #26 | |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: May 2013
Location: California
Posts: 536
|
Quote:
Its tough to compare the Hellcat vs the vid of a modded ZL1 you posted, anyone rolling up to that ZL1 that cam's that hard knows they're in for a tough race |
|
4 July 2014, 10:12 AM | #27 | |
2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: USA
Watch: addiction issues
Posts: 37,355
|
Quote:
Not bad I am starting to think I'm getting a steal. 13' 991 c2 15k miles per year. Max liability etc $860 per year, and I'm 26. I think the 911 gets a benefit from legally having 4 seats? Maybe that's nonsense.
__________________
|
|
4 July 2014, 10:38 AM | #28 |
2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member
Join Date: Dec 2010
Real Name: PaulG
Location: Georgia
Posts: 42,024
|
I remember choices like this:
Morpheus: This is your last chance. After this, there is no turning back. You take the blue pill - the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill - you stay in Wonderland and I show you how deep the rabbit-hole goes. From the Hellcat story: The Hellcat engine comes standard with two key fobs, red and black. You’ll want the red one, as it is the only one that unlocks the full 707 hp and torque; the black key fob limits the engine’s output to “just” 500 hp. I can't wait for these to show up in races next year at HP tracks like Sebring, VIR, Homestead and Road Atlanta...
__________________
Does anyone really know what time it is? |
4 July 2014, 10:14 PM | #29 |
Banned
Join Date: Mar 2008
Real Name: Bruno
Location: Boston/Cape Cod
Watch: 16610,PAM. 111, G
Posts: 7,608
|
I'd race one but the 8 speed auto is going to be tough to beat. It may take me easily.
|
5 July 2014, 07:26 AM | #30 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Jan 2014
Real Name: James
Location: Michigan
Watch: Omega Seamaster
Posts: 528
|
Dodge is back on the top. i read a small article where a junkyard's car crusher was powered by an old MOPAR 440. The engine has killed over 8,000 cars. That's power and Dodge, i think had remembered where to find it.
__________________
"Overtook The Michael..."-Mika "I need to establish my own limits. When i reach those limits, i am willing to overcome them and establish new ones. I do not know how far i can go. I have an understanding of wht i'm doing, but do not know how far it can take me."-Ayrton Senna. |
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests) | |
Thread Tools | |
Display Modes | |
|
|
*Banners
Of The Month*
This space is provided to horological resources.