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PhilM · 20 April 2008, 08:25 AM

Not to sure if it's been asked before, but does anybody know how many subs tend to get sold vs the SD. In all the watch shops I've looked in over the years, not all of them carry the sub but hardly any carry stock of the SD. So even with the current models, how many more 14060M get sold compared to the 16600.

Thanks

OYSTERMANN · 20 April 2008, 08:28 AM

I must admit, I've never seen a Sea Dweller in an AD window

- maybe you have to order them beforehand.

PhilM · 20 April 2008, 08:36 AM

I think I've only ever seen the SD in the Maplin and web at Heathrow :-), otherwise it's subs only

blueface · 20 April 2008, 08:56 AM

A couple of months ago, when buying my sub date, my AD had the SD, sub date and no date in stock, as well as GMT's in black, pepsi, coke and the new GMT 2. Many other watches too, DD's, DJ'S, TT SUBs (both blue and black) and many ladies models.
I find it hard to belive so many AD's are so short on stock.

OYSTERMANN · 20 April 2008, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by PhilM

I think I've only ever seen the SD in the Maplin and web at Heathrow :-), otherwise it's subs only

I've never even seen a SD. Have you ever tried one on?

SSD · 20 April 2008, 09:04 AM

Mine generally keeps an SD in stock- along with either a Sub date or no-date model. He always tries to keep a GMT around, but has had very few Sub LV's and GMT II-c's.

OYSTERMANN · 20 April 2008, 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blueface

A couple of months ago, when buying my sub date, my AD had the SD, sub date and no date in stock, as well as GMT's in black, pepsi, coke and the new GMT 2. Many other watches too, DD's, DJ'S, TT SUBs (both blue and black) and many ladies models.
I find it hard to belive so many AD's are so short on stock.

Sounds like your AD is definitely open for business

!

JPP · 20 April 2008, 09:10 AM

Sorry to say have seen loads of SDs in windows in London. Every time I walk past an ADs window they have a SD in it. Seen less subs - never a sub date but more often a no-date. SDs are certainly not rare in London.

DS/B MINI S · 20 April 2008, 10:36 AM

I asked my AD late last year and at both their stores it is a 6:1 ratio. The Sub is much more popular. Just another reason I bought the Sea-Dweller

JJ Irani · 20 April 2008, 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DS/B MINI S

I asked my AD late last year and at both their stores it is a 6:1 ratio. The Sub is much more popular. Just another reason I bought the Sea-Dweller

Near enough!! The SS Sub-date is still one of the most popular sports watches out there! You just can't put down a true champion!!!

colemanitis · 20 April 2008, 11:46 AM

My AD has had a SD in the case everytime I've visited. I've seen a few people wearing them around town. I've seen a TON of Subs... I spotted two just today.

dkpw · 20 April 2008, 11:53 AM

Lovely pic JJ!!

Letsgodiving · 20 April 2008, 11:56 AM

The two AD's I frequent always seem to have an SD in the case. I have yet to see someone wearing one though although I see the Sub fairly frequently.

Texsubmariner · 20 April 2008, 12:18 PM

I think the 6:1 ratio for subs to SD is right. Especially when considering all the gold iterations of the SubDate, not to mention the SubND.

jlwc1974 · 20 April 2008, 12:24 PM

the more popular, the less exclusive , that's why i choose the SD , kudos to the king of ALL divers watch

colemanitis · 20 April 2008, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Texsubmariner

I think the 6:1 ratio for subs to SD is right. Especially when considering all the gold iterations of the SubDate, not to mention the SubND.

I'm thinking more like 100:1. Seriously I've spotted hundreds of Subs, but I've only spotted 2 SDs.

sea-dweller · 20 April 2008, 01:12 PM

I've seen only about 3 SD's "in the flesh", as opposed to hundreds of Subs.

timackerman · 20 April 2008, 02:19 PM

I don't think that I have ever seen a SD in person

But I have a seen a few Sub's

wanasub · 20 April 2008, 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timackerman

I don't think that I have ever seen a SD in person

But I have a seen a few Sub's

Unlucky!

harvey · 20 April 2008, 04:38 PM

over the last month or so, when deciding between a sd and gmt II, out of the 4 ADs i visited, 2 had them in stock, the other 2 said they could get them within the week from another store in the chain.

topcat30093 · 20 April 2008, 05:41 PM

Why don't you start a poll to find out!!

I have seen both several times in different AD's windows.
Personally I have owed 1 SD and 3 Subs. So that probably shows which way that I would vote!
But saying that I do like the look of the new DSSD

PhilM · 20 April 2008, 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OYSTERMANN

I've never even seen a SD. Have you ever tried one on?

Hi Neil I didn't try the one on from M&W as it was a couple of years ago, however I was lucky enough to join two clubs in February this year. The Rolex owners club and the SD club

And here it is, any chance to show off my lovely SD

SPACE-DWELLER · 20 April 2008, 10:36 PM

Only Rolex knows and they aint telling us!

OYSTERMANN · 20 April 2008, 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhilM

Hi Neil I didn't try the one on from M&W as it was a couple of years ago, however I was lucky enough to join two clubs in February this year. The Rolex owners club and the SD club

And here it is, any chance to show off my lovely SD

Great looking Sea Dweller - I'll have to have a proper look at one some day

.

SSD · 22 April 2008, 04:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPACE-DWELLER

Only Rolex knows and they aint telling us!

YES!

I've only spotted one SD in the wild, but a number of Subs. I wonder too...

Trurolexer · 22 April 2008, 04:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJ Irani

Near enough!! The SS Sub-date is still one of the most popular sports watches out there! You just can't put down a true champion!!!

Well said, JJ!!! 100% agree!!!

Trurolexer · 22 April 2008, 04:16 AM

I still see a couple new SD in my AD.

Gurmot · 22 April 2008, 04:19 AM

I'm sure the ratio varies from country to country but I reckon on a ration of 1 SD for every 10 Subs sold in the UK. Like others, I often see Subs in the wild but never SDs.

Perhaps we should have a rolling poll to log when we spot a either a sub-date or SD. We'd soon build up an international picture.

Update - poll now added, try this http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=38479

20 April 2008, 08:25 AM	#1
PhilM "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: Phil Location: London Watch: Sea-Dweller Posts: 1,765	The SD and Sub Ratio Not to sure if it's been asked before, but does anybody know how many subs tend to get sold vs the SD. In all the watch shops I've looked in over the years, not all of them carry the sub but hardly any carry stock of the SD. So even with the current models, how many more 14060M get sold compared to the 16600. Thanks

20 April 2008, 08:28 AM	#2
OYSTERMANN "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Real Name: Neil Location: West Midlands UK Watch: DJ,DD,GMTIIc,Sub Posts: 7,063	I must admit, I've never seen a Sea Dweller in an AD window - maybe you have to order them beforehand. __________________ Neil 116231 SS/RG DATEJUST 2007 118238 YG DAY-DATE 2007 116713 LN SS/YG GMT IIc 2008 116613 LB SS/YG SUBMARINER 2009 216570 SS EXPLORER II 2013 116520 SS DAYTONA 2014

20 April 2008, 08:56 AM	#4
blueface "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Real Name: Dave Location: USA Watch: DJ, DD, SUB Posts: 487	A couple of months ago, when buying my sub date, my AD had the SD, sub date and no date in stock, as well as GMT's in black, pepsi, coke and the new GMT 2. Many other watches too, DD's, DJ'S, TT SUBs (both blue and black) and many ladies models. I find it hard to belive so many AD's are so short on stock. __________________ TT Datejust 16233 (T) SOLD YG Daydate 11833 (K SS Sub Date 16610 (M). SOLD TT Blue Sub Date 116613LB (Random, 2018?)

20 April 2008, 09:04 AM	#6
SSD "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Jamie Location: Georgia Watch: Stainless Sub Date Posts: 3,023	Mine generally keeps an SD in stock- along with either a Sub date or no-date model. He always tries to keep a GMT around, but has had very few Sub LV's and GMT II-c's. __________________ SUBMARINER OWNERS' CLUB ESTABLISHED 1953 TRF Member # 5464

20 April 2008, 10:36 AM	#9
DS/B MINI S "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Mike Location: Charlotte NC Watch: SD & Exp II Posts: 961	I asked my AD late last year and at both their stores it is a 6:1 ratio. The Sub is much more popular. Just another reason I bought the Sea-Dweller __________________ 16600 Sea-Dweller 16570 Explorer II (White Dial)

20 April 2008, 08:36 AM	#3
PhilM "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: Phil Location: London Watch: Sea-Dweller Posts: 1,765	I think I've only ever seen the SD in the Maplin and web at Heathrow :-), otherwise it's subs only

20 April 2008, 09:10 AM	#8
JPP Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: London Posts: 115	Sorry to say have seen loads of SDs in windows in London. Every time I walk past an ADs window they have a SD in it. Seen less subs - never a sub date but more often a no-date. SDs are certainly not rare in London.

20 April 2008, 11:46 AM	#11
colemanitis "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Real Name: Jeff Location: Florida Watch: PAM 1090 Posts: 3,723	My AD has had a SD in the case everytime I've visited. I've seen a few people wearing them around town. I've seen a TON of Subs... I spotted two just today. __________________ Member #471

20 April 2008, 11:53 AM	#12
dkpw "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: David Location: Scotland Watch: 16610 & 214270 Posts: 1,294	Lovely pic JJ!! __________________ Sub 16610, Explorer 214270, Ω Speedy Pro & many others. David

20 April 2008, 11:56 AM	#13
Letsgodiving "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Mike Location: Virginia, US Watch: SD 16600 Posts: 4,319	The two AD's I frequent always seem to have an SD in the case. I have yet to see someone wearing one though although I see the Sub fairly frequently. __________________ The fool, with all his other faults, has this also - he is always getting ready to live. - Epicurus (341–270 BC)

20 April 2008, 12:18 PM	#14
Texsubmariner "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: Khanh Location: Texas Watch: SSGMTc Posts: 1,227	I think the 6:1 ratio for subs to SD is right. Especially when considering all the gold iterations of the SubDate, not to mention the SubND. __________________ Sea Dweller M series SS GMT IIc M series Omega SMP Electric Blue Dial Wife's SS WG MOP Ladies DJ Z series

20 April 2008, 12:24 PM	#15
jlwc1974 Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Singapore Posts: 86	the more popular, the less exclusive , that's why i choose the SD , kudos to the king of ALL divers watch

20 April 2008, 01:12 PM	#17
sea-dweller "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Dennis Location: Bay Area - 925 Posts: 40,018	I've seen only about 3 SD's "in the flesh", as opposed to hundreds of Subs.

20 April 2008, 02:19 PM	#18
timackerman "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Real Name: Tim Location: Calgary Posts: 1,117	I don't think that I have ever seen a SD in person But I have a seen a few Sub's __________________ Daytona 116520

20 April 2008, 04:38 PM	#20
harvey "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: rolexforums.com Posts: 5,437	over the last month or so, when deciding between a sd and gmt II, out of the 4 ADs i visited, 2 had them in stock, the other 2 said they could get them within the week from another store in the chain.

20 April 2008, 05:41 PM	#21
topcat30093 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Tony Location: England Posts: 5,460	Why don't you start a poll to find out!! I have seen both several times in different AD's windows. Personally I have owed 1 SD and 3 Subs. So that probably shows which way that I would vote! But saying that I do like the look of the new DSSD __________________

20 April 2008, 10:36 PM	#23
SPACE-DWELLER "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Real Name: Bo Location: Denmark Watch: Rolex, of course! Posts: 22,436	Only Rolex knows and they aint telling us! __________________ With kind regards, Bo LocTite 221: The Taming Of The Screw...

22 April 2008, 04:16 AM	#27
Trurolexer Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: USA Watch: 5513MaxiI+PreComex Posts: 18,421	I still see a couple new SD in my AD.

22 April 2008, 04:19 AM	#28
Gurmot Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Simon Location: UK Posts: 568	I'm sure the ratio varies from country to country but I reckon on a ration of 1 SD for every 10 Subs sold in the UK. Like others, I often see Subs in the wild but never SDs. Perhaps we should have a rolling poll to log when we spot a either a sub-date or SD. We'd soon build up an international picture. Update - poll now added, try this http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=38479 Last edited by Gurmot; 22 April 2008 at 04:58 AM.. Reason: Updated to add poll link

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