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tahitianmoon · 8 March 2015, 03:04 AM

Hello everyone! I would like to ask your help on this Explorer II. I'm told its a 1991. There is a flake of lume missing off the second hand and the dial seems to have a different patina from the hands. Please let me know your opinions as to the condition, any other issues you see and what you think this should sell for. Thanks for your help!

NKflyer · 8 March 2015, 06:47 AM

Looks authentic to me judging from the two photos. It is fairly common for the lume on the dial and hands to discolor at different rates or also possible that the hands were replaced. Value for the watch only without box and papers... in the low $3k range, like $3200-3400. You can have the numerals on the bezel re-enameled (repainted black) inexpensively.

tahitianmoon · 8 March 2015, 02:48 PM

Thank you! I appreciate your help.

bayerische · 8 March 2015, 04:42 PM

Looks ok

crowncollection · 8 March 2015, 05:48 PM

Looks ok

Old Expat Beast · 8 March 2015, 07:57 PM

I would avoid this one, a piece of lume has dropped out of the seconds hand and could have dropped through the date window into the movement. And the remaining piece could do the same.

jvmartin · 8 March 2015, 07:59 PM

authentic but heavily worn... possibly overpolished on the bezel

GGGMT · 9 March 2015, 12:58 AM

Looks legit but I'd pass. There are so many of these out there. Get one that has been used less hard.

tahitianmoon · 9 March 2015, 02:47 AM

Thanks, everyone. Normally I wouldn't consider such a heavily worn watch, but I thought for a casual everyday "tool" watch I would wear it. Also, the seller is asking $2900 so my downside would be minimal if I changed my mind later...

calieng · 9 March 2015, 03:23 AM

The Explorer II should have the hour hand at the bottom of the stack. In the fakes it is the GMT hand at the bottom. This is due to different movement used.

It is the tell 99% of the time.

8 March 2015, 03:04 AM	#1
tahitianmoon Banned Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: USA Watch: AP 15400ST Posts: 175	Asking for help on this Explorer II Hello everyone! I would like to ask your help on this Explorer II. I'm told its a 1991. There is a flake of lume missing off the second hand and the dial seems to have a different patina from the hands. Please let me know your opinions as to the condition, any other issues you see and what you think this should sell for. Thanks for your help! Attached Images

8 March 2015, 04:42 PM	#4
bayerische "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Andreas Location: Margaritaville Watch: Smurf Posts: 19,879	Looks ok __________________ Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

8 March 2015, 05:48 PM	#5
crowncollection "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: David Location: australia Posts: 20,216	Looks ok __________________ watches many

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8 March 2015, 06:47 AM	#2
NKflyer 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Real Name: Richard Location: Colorado Posts: 2,858	Looks authentic to me judging from the two photos. It is fairly common for the lume on the dial and hands to discolor at different rates or also possible that the hands were replaced. Value for the watch only without box and papers... in the low $3k range, like $3200-3400. You can have the numerals on the bezel re-enameled (repainted black) inexpensively.

8 March 2015, 02:48 PM	#3
tahitianmoon Banned Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: USA Watch: AP 15400ST Posts: 175	Thank you! I appreciate your help.

8 March 2015, 07:57 PM	#6
Old Expat Beast TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Adam Location: Far East Watch: Golden Tuna Posts: 28,826	I would avoid this one, a piece of lume has dropped out of the seconds hand and could have dropped through the date window into the movement. And the remaining piece could do the same.

8 March 2015, 07:59 PM	#7
jvmartin "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 2,349	authentic but heavily worn... possibly overpolished on the bezel

9 March 2015, 12:58 AM	#8
GGGMT 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Itinerant Watch: 79010sg Posts: 8,346	Looks legit but I'd pass. There are so many of these out there. Get one that has been used less hard.

9 March 2015, 02:47 AM	#9
tahitianmoon Banned Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: USA Watch: AP 15400ST Posts: 175	Thanks, everyone. Normally I wouldn't consider such a heavily worn watch, but I thought for a casual everyday "tool" watch I would wear it. Also, the seller is asking $2900 so my downside would be minimal if I changed my mind later...

9 March 2015, 03:23 AM	#10
calieng "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Real Name: Chris Location: San Diego, CA Watch: 116613LB Posts: 30	The Explorer II should have the hour hand at the bottom of the stack. In the fakes it is the GMT hand at the bottom. This is due to different movement used. It is the tell 99% of the time.

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