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Old 25 March 2015, 01:04 AM   #1
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1016 v 5513 - which would you chose?

If you were allowed just one vintage Rolex and had to chose between a 1972 Submariner 5513 and a 1989 Explorer 1016, both in very good condition, which would you pick and why?
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Old 25 March 2015, 01:55 AM   #2
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5513 the 1016 wears a bit small for me... I like the looks of both though
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Old 25 March 2015, 01:57 AM   #3
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5513. Just something classic about it.
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Old 25 March 2015, 01:59 AM   #4
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5513 no contest, so much style!
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Old 25 March 2015, 02:01 AM   #5
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I'd really have to see both, to be sure. There is just so much variation in "very good" condition between different pairs of eyes. I love both models.
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Old 25 March 2015, 02:40 AM   #6
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I personally wouldn't go for a 1989 1016 - i'd hold out for a much older model, such as late 60's, where the price drops considerably from the early 60's gilt dial version.
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Old 25 March 2015, 03:32 AM   #7
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one more vote on 5513, just got my first one too
LUV IT!
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Old 25 March 2015, 04:20 AM   #8
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If I could have only one vintage watch, it would be a Sub.
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Old 25 March 2015, 04:38 AM   #9
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I'm willing to wager that 99% of highly regarded, experienced Rolex collectors would choose a 5513, condition being comparable.
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Old 25 March 2015, 04:44 AM   #10
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I think there were many more 5513s made and sold than 1016s, judging by how often they come up for sale. I own both (and two 1016s), but can understand the popularity of the Sub. Still, there'd be something neat about owning one of the very last 1016s.
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Old 25 March 2015, 05:37 AM   #11
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Personal preference imho, 1016's are classic and wear smaller. I have one gilt tropical non chapter that I love to wear. Subs are more plentiful but the catch is finding a really good example of either. Good luck. m
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Old 25 March 2015, 05:55 AM   #12
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If you were allowed just one vintage Rolex and had to chose between a 1972 Submariner 5513 and a 1989 Explorer 1016, both in very good condition, which would you pick and why?
I think this is a personal choice, both great pieces. Personally I prefer the sub.
But the bigger question is why are we allowed "just one vintage"?
This is the first problem...its impossible to own just one vintage...it can't be done. If the rule is in place by your wife...its time to get a new wife.
If the rule is in place by your budget...its time to start a lemonade stand.
If the rule is in place by your Mom, its time to run away from home.

Get them both and cut back on a few necessities.
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Old 25 March 2015, 05:57 AM   #13
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My vote 5513
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Old 25 March 2015, 06:43 AM   #14
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Thanks for the comments guys. So far the 5513 is the clear favourite and I do love this sub but there's something about the simple, tool like Explorer that draws me to it. I'm lucky enough to already have a blue 16613 and a DSSD in my collection. More views welcome.
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Old 25 March 2015, 06:45 AM   #15
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Haha
Obviously a 5513 for me.
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Old 25 March 2015, 06:51 AM   #16
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5513!
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Old 25 March 2015, 07:05 AM   #17
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5513 fan ( ...and owner ! ) here. Vote goes for .............
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Old 25 March 2015, 07:16 AM   #18
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Old 25 March 2015, 07:20 AM   #19
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Get them both and cut back on a few necessities.


Better advice is hard to find
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Old 26 March 2015, 03:41 AM   #20
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1016s seem to sell for more. Is that because less 1016s were produced?
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Old 26 March 2015, 03:53 AM   #21
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1016s seem to sell for more. Is that because less 1016s were produced?
5513 Matte Dials started from around 1966-1984 before the white gold ring stepped in so YES 19 years
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Old 26 March 2015, 03:59 AM   #22
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Go for the 1016. Understated, classic, simple, beautiful. As nice as the 5513 is, it's another Sub at the end of the day. I'd love to have a beautiful 5513 (who wouldn't) but I'd love to have the right 1016 even more. Take your time. Find the right example of whatever you choose.
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Old 26 March 2015, 04:11 AM   #23
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5513, there aren't enough pictures to this thread
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Old 26 March 2015, 04:19 AM   #24
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1016s seem to sell for more. Is that because less 1016s were produced?

I think u r thinking of the gilts. The matte ones shouldnt b more than the sub.

I would go for 5513, the quintessential classic.


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Old 26 March 2015, 04:30 AM   #25
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Here we go…
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Old 26 March 2015, 04:34 AM   #26
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[QUOTE=omitohud;5718334]I think u r thinking of the gilts. The matte ones shouldnt b more than the sub.

That's interesting
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Old 26 March 2015, 05:59 AM   #27
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Tough one but 5513 by a whisker......
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Old 26 March 2015, 07:03 AM   #28
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5513 Matte Dials started from around 1966-1984 before the white gold ring stepped in so YES 19 years
the 1016 was produced for longer than 19 years, think it was 64 - 89, so in fact longer than the 5513, but i doubt anyone knows comparitive production numbers.
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Old 26 March 2015, 07:18 AM   #29
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5513 all day
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Old 26 March 2015, 10:37 AM   #30
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Easy ....5513 hands down
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