Help with Tudor vintage purchase

[Knolte]

Hi!
I wan't to try a 34mm Tudor to see if the size suits me. I have now two alternatives from the same seller on eBay: anythingoes123
But I'm not completely confident that they are real:
First this one:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/251919658296
On this one I'm uncertain about the back case. Both the inside without any year, and especially the outside with the small rose in the engravings instead of the Rolex crown. Can this be original?

The other one:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/251919647503
On this one it is only the inside of the back case that bothers me.
Are they real??

Hope you guys can help!
Thanks!